Democrat Platform recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel

So during the Democrat National Convention an amendment was made to the party platform recognizing that belief in God is a central to the American story and and informs the values in the Democrat Platform and recognizing (in accordance with Obama's belief) that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.

The matter was determined by a voice-vote where the amendment had to pass with a 2-3 majority (how does one ascertain that from a voice vote?).

In regards to the video that I linked to showing this process, I believe that it's title is inaccurate, the video-poster believe that the boos of the crowd once the amendment was adopted were directed at the part recognizing belief in God, I think the boos were probably directed at the part recognizing Jerusalem as the Israeli capital. The video shows some of the people booing holding signs indicating them as Arab-American.

Also it should be mentioned that this recognition of Jerusalem as capital of Israel does not contradict Obama's remarks about the 1967 lines: East Jerusalem is beyond the 1967 lines but the DNC platform amendment makes no mention of the status of East Jerusalem. Also Obama's remarks were not that Israel and Palestine should go back to the 1967 lines, his remarks were that they should use those lines with land swaps (i.e. If Israel wants to take 20 miles of land outside the lines they have to give Palestine 20 miles of land within the lines).

I read the news today oh boy.

It really doesn't make a difference what the platform says or doesn't say - the government's position on the issue hasn't changed for decades and I highly doubt it will any time soon. -Sun_Tzu-

Uhh... That's because it is? How can anyone deny that Jerusalem is the capitol of Israel if their government even recognizes it as such?

They should. If they didn't they would just be stupid and need to get educated again.

But I do not need a stupid political party to confirm anything, I know what the capital of Israel is.

Uhh... That's because it is? How can anyone deny that Jerusalem is the capitol of Israel if their government even recognizes it as such?

MacBoomStick

UN pretends it isn't

Along with pretending Tawain doesn't exist.

Who cares where Israel says there capital is.....

What the US says doesn't mean much for them

The knesset is in Jerusalem, for all intents and purposes that's where their capital is.

[QUOTE="MacBoomStick"]

Uhh... That's because it is? How can anyone deny that Jerusalem is the capitol of Israel if their government even recognizes it as such?

dercoo

UN pretends it isn't

Along with pretending Tawain doesn't exist.

You know the U.N. is spineless when it still has to play into conflicting powers and avoid angering anyone. Not that there's any doubt.

As if it changes anything :lol: If Israel wants Washington DC as it's capitol, the US would make it happen. It's called "being someone's ****"

ah good, reality finally reached them.

As if it changes anything :lol: If Israel wants Washington DC as it's capitol, the US would make it happen. It's called "being someone's ****"

jointed

Good news. America already recognize this though.themajormayor

Good news. America already recognize this though.themajormayor

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]Good news. America already recognize this though.-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]Good news. America already recognize this though.-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="themajormayor"]Good news. America already recognize this though.themajormayor

I thought it was not up to Congress to determine such matters.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="themajormayor"]Good news. America already recognize this though.themajormayor

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] No they don'tjetpower3

I thought it was not up to Congress to determine such matters.

[QUOTE="jetpower3"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] Well I misremembered the words of the Jerusalem Embassy act. It kinda implies it though. themajormayor

I thought it was not up to Congress to determine such matters.

Each president thus far as viewed such foreign policy and questions of sovereignty related decisions as being up to the executive branch. Hence a complete lack of enforcement of such an initiative from the legislature.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="themajormayor"]Good news. America already recognize this though.cslayer211

But this is really not that important an issue. It's almost impossible to conceive of Israel withouut a united Jerusalem under its control; even current Palestinian leadership has been more than willing to give up all of East Jerusalem. Although with that said, the current legality of this arrangement is something to be desired, but at this point that is something that Israeli and Palestinian leadership are going to have to resolve between themselves (which means that until the broader occupation is addressed the technical legal status of Jerusalem will remain in limbo), and that is the official US position.

It's all just legal semantics though. Declaring that Jerusalem will remain the undivided capital of Israel is just stating a truism at this point.

[QUOTE="cslayer211"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] No they don't-Sun_Tzu-

But this is really not that important an issue. It's almost impossible to conceive of Israel withouut a united Jerusalem under its control; even current Palestinian leadership has been more than willing to give up all of East Jerusalem. Although with that said, the current legality of this arrangement is something to be desired, but at this point that is something that Israeli and Palestinian leadership are going to have to resolve between themselves (which means that until the broader occupation is addressed the technical legal status of Jerusalem will remain in limbo), and that is the official US position.

It's all just legal semantics though. Declaring that Jerusalem will remain the undivided capital of Israel is just stating a truism at this point.

Officially they're reluctant to give up any part of it.themajormayor

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] The Jerusalem Embassy Act is just words on paper. It's been disregarded by every president since Clinton.-Sun_Tzu-

Where?

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]Officially they're reluctant to give up any part of it.-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]Officially they're reluctant to give up any part of it.themajormayor

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] In what way? themajormayor

Where?

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] That's because officially they have to keep up appearances - much like the US on the very same issue, ironically.

-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Well, as the name of the act implies, the US embassy in Israel is suppose to be in Jerusalem. If you are ever in Jerusalem don't bother looking for the US embassy. You might find the US consulate to the Palestinian Authority though. -Sun_Tzu-

Where?

doesn't really matter what the US say's it isn't recognized internationally. the move to annex east Jerusalem is null. Its Palestinian. a country can't make territorial gains based on military campaigns.East Jerusalem was occupied in 1967. Meaning that all of Israel's attempts gain no form of recognition No matter what one country says.. Read it and weep.mayceV

[QUOTE="cslayer211"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] No they don't-Sun_Tzu-

But this is really not that important an issue. It's almost impossible to conceive of Israel withouut a united Jerusalem under its control; even current Palestinian leadership has been more than willing to give up all of East Jerusalem. Although with that said, the current legality of this arrangement is something to be desired, but at this point that is something that Israeli and Palestinian leadership are going to have to resolve between themselves (which means that until the broader occupation is addressed the technical legal status of Jerusalem will remain in limbo), and that is the official US position.

It's all just legal semantics though. Declaring that Jerusalem will remain the undivided capital of Israel is just stating a truism at this point.

They should. If they didn't they would just be stupid and need to get educated again.

But I do not need a stupid political party to confirm anything, I know what the capital of Israel is.

ShadowMoses900

Damn leftists.

doesn't really matter what the US say's it isn't recognized internationally. the move to annex east Jerusalem is null. Its Palestinian. a country can't make territorial gains based on military campaigns.East Jerusalem was occupied in 1967. Meaning that all of Israel's attempts gain no form of recognition No matter what one country says.. Read it and weep.mayceV

[QUOTE="mayceV"]doesn't really matter what the US say's it isn't recognized internationally. the move to annex east Jerusalem is null. Its Palestinian. a country can't make territorial gains based on military campaigns.East Jerusalem was occupied in 1967. Meaning that all of Israel's attempts gain no form of recognition No matter what one country says.. Read it and weep.cslayer211

[QUOTE="cslayer211"][QUOTE="mayceV"]doesn't really matter what the US say's it isn't recognized internationally. the move to annex east Jerusalem is null. Its Palestinian. a country can't make territorial gains based on military campaigns.East Jerusalem was occupied in 1967. Meaning that all of Israel's attempts gain no form of recognition No matter what one country says.. Read it and weep.mayceV

[QUOTE="cslayer211"][QUOTE="mayceV"]doesn't really matter what the US say's it isn't recognized internationally. the move to annex east Jerusalem is null. Its Palestinian. a country can't make territorial gains based on military campaigns.East Jerusalem was occupied in 1967. Meaning that all of Israel's attempts gain no form of recognition No matter what one country says.. Read it and weep.mayceV

[QUOTE="mayceV"][QUOTE="cslayer211"] No offense, but you're delusional. Seriously, you can't blame the Jews for being better fighters than the Arabs in 1948.cslayer211

[QUOTE="cslayer211"][QUOTE="mayceV"] yeah...international law says its an occupied territory. You're delusional, what's 1948 gotta do with anything? its been occupied since 1967. prior to that it was supported by Jordan and continued to be that way until 1988. Do you think that the Golan heights are Israeli? They claim that too, a move also made null in the same ruling.mayceV

doesn't really matter what the US say's it isn't recognized internationally. the move to annex east Jerusalem is null. Its Palestinian. a country can't make territorial gains based on military campaigns.East Jerusalem was occupied in 1967. Meaning that all of Israel's attempts gain no form of recognition No matter what one country says.. Read it and weep.mayceV

This poster has no concept of geopolitical realities.

[QUOTE="mayceV"]doesn't really matter what the US say's it isn't recognized internationally. the move to annex east Jerusalem is null. Its Palestinian. a country can't make territorial gains based on military campaigns.East Jerusalem was occupied in 1967. Meaning that all of Israel's attempts gain no form of recognition No matter what one country says.. Read it and weep.jetpower3

This poster has no concept of geopolitical realities.