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#51 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="6_Dead_360s"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]When did you hear that? Also, why would they make that connection unless there was a reason for it? Dexter isn't a show for filler and the like, so I doubt that conversation was pointless. dave123321

Apparently someone recognized the area and buildings on the web. Unless they go for a season 9, I see no reason not to assume he's in oregon.

Well the area where they shot the scene doesn't actually have to be the area where he is.

Indeed. I doubt that the places they filmed Game of Thrones are actually "on-set" :P
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#52 CountBleck12
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The ending was very disappointing, I know damn well that it's not suppose to be a "happy ending" but still. Also a few people have said that maybe that was Harrison at the end when he gets older, not Dexter but I guess we will never know...

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#53 HoolaHoopMan
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Wow that finale was bad. Everything after season 4 just went downhill.
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#54 ShadowsDemon
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Wow that finale was bad. Everything after season 4 just went downhill. HoolaHoopMan
Hey, I liked Season 5 and 7 :P
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I had no emotional connection at all. Deb was my favorite character, but she died for the stupidest reason. The scene where she got shot was a terrible scene, obviously the writers were too lazy to make it realistic. She's a trained cop with a pistol who walked into the room pointing it up. She would have shot first. Instead, apparently Saxton has slow motion super powers and he can raise his gun and shoot her in a split second.

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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]Wow that finale was bad. Everything after season 4 just went downhill. ShadowsDemon
Hey, I liked Season 5 and 7 :P

Season five really showed that they were afraid of any major consequences for dexter and moving the show to new areas of exploration.
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#57 AFBrat77
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]Wow that finale was bad. Everything after season 4 just went downhill. dave123321
Hey, I liked Season 5 and 7 :P

Season five really showed that they were afraid of any major consequences for dexter and moving the show to new areas of exploration.

agreed, expectations were very high without the chains of Rita

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#58 EthicalBandit
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]Wow that finale was bad. Everything after season 4 just went downhill. dave123321
Hey, I liked Season 5 and 7 :P

Season five really showed that they were afraid of any major consequences for dexter and moving the show to new areas of exploration.

The showrunner that left after Season 4 even said he had no idea what to do with Rita's death. It seems like it was used more as shock value rather than an appropriate plot point.

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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] Hey, I liked Season 5 and 7 :PEthicalBandit

Season five really showed that they were afraid of any major consequences for dexter and moving the show to new areas of exploration.

The showrunner that left after Season 4 even said he had no idea what to do with Rita's death. It seems like it was used more as shock value rather than an appropriate plot point.

Yeah, I agree on that point.
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#60 sammyjenkis898
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]  .

lol, thats great.
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#62 SexyJazzCat
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It really didn't make a lot of sense.  The whole 'troubled past' thing I get... but abandoning his kid with her?  Kind of lame... Dexter is a lot of things, ditching his kid doesnt seem like one of them.

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Did people not pay attention? He's sick of everyone around him getting hurt, so he fvcked off.

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Is the implication that he just up and abandoned his son, or he has TV amnesia and is working as a logger, or... ? What, he doesn't need to kill or he's still killing as a logger with no family to "tie him down" or... ? Like, what exactly is the implication here, what are we supposed to assume, and I can't get over him dumping his son on Hannah. If you've read my other topics you'll notice how much I love Hannah, always rooted for her, even if it meant rooting against Dexter. What the f*** at dumping his kid on her. So when Harrison grows up getting angrier and angrier that his dad isn't around and what happened to him, how is she gonna explain that away? IF she's still gonna raise him and not dump him on foster care or something. I'm so pissed off at this particular point like you don't even know. So he's gonna leave his kid with Hanna? Hannah likes Harrison, we get it, but she's not gonna raise someone else's f***ing kid, especially all by herself. Like what the f*** writers do you think THAT little of your audience? And despite everything I was actually really liking this season... I mean you forget about all the contrivances because the characters and acting are just that good, like Evelyn Vogel I liked her. There are so many scenes I liked, such as Dexter and Hannah and Zach and Dr Vogel all sitting down at a table to have dinner, one happy family, the situation was bemusing and really brought a smile to my face, it was quite gleeful.
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#64 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]  .

Gold :P
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Is the implication that he just up and abandoned his son, or he has TV amnesia and is working as a logger, or... ? What, he doesn't need to kill or he's still killing as a logger with no family to "tie him down" or... ? Like, what exactly is the implication here, what are we supposed to assume, and I can't get over him dumping his son on Hannah. If you've read my other topics you'll notice how much I love Hannah, always rooted for her, even if it meant rooting against Dexter. What the f*** at dumping his kid on her. So when Harrison grows up getting angrier and angrier that his dad isn't around and what happened to him, how is she gonna explain that away? IF she's still gonna raise him and not dump him on foster care or something. I'm so pissed off at this particular point like you don't even know. So he's gonna leave his kid with Hanna? Hannah likes Harrison, we get it, but she's not gonna raise someone else's f***ing kid, especially all by herself. Like what the f*** writers do you think THAT little of your audience? And despite everything I was actually really liking this season... I mean you forget about all the contrivances because the characters and acting are just that good, like Evelyn Vogel I liked her. There are so many scenes I liked, such as Dexter and Hannah and Zach and Dr Vogel all sitting down at a table to have dinner, one happy family, the situation was bemusing and really brought a smile to my face, it was quite gleeful.Revisited

Why would Harrison grow up angry?  All he knows is that his Dad died in a hurricane.  It was a bad episode, don't get me wrong, but I don't think all children who lose a parent grow up angry.

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#66 omho88
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bad season ... bad ending .... I hope the writer realises this is not a good way to end an excellent how like that .... so I am waiting for the 9th season announcements.

I also think all the seasons were great except the doomsday killer and this final season ... boring crap.

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#67 Revisited
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God it's like, there's so much I wanna say. But now that its all over it seems nobody wants to care.
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I came up with an ending last night (not necessarily better, just different and darker which is what I thought the show needed) that doesn't involve rewriting the whole season (even though that would be for the best) and isn't the generic "dying on the electric chair" ending. Anyway here's the main points:

[spoiler] The FBI guy doesn't exist, instead it's just Elway and he ends up getting killed by Saxon at the end of the penultimate episode.

 

Deb just dies after Saxon shoots her, no silly hospital nonsense.

 

Dexter is a complete mess after this, he finally lets emotions get the better of him (since they made him into a p***y anyway, might as well have him go completely human, but for good reason) and he's walking around Miami distraught or he's in a bar or something.

 

Saxon who's been following him, drugs him and takes him to an abandoned building (couldn't think of anywhere significant but I'm sure there's somewhere obvious). He's in an empty room with Saxon sitting on a chair with another person covered up sitting silently nearby.

 

Saxon explains that he's envious of Dexter and his ability to have a family and friends (mirroring the way Dexter acts towards Trinity, it felt like they were trying to do that anyway but never pulled it off) but after the way his mother treated him he wants to show Dexter what it feels like to be completely alone.

 

He reveals the other body to be Hannah, who's drugged as well and still completely unconscious. Saxon injects Dexter again, and as he's blacking out he see's Saxon slit Hannahs throat (this is a scene I imagine the show would actually do horribly with cheesy goodbyes but I like the idea of them not getting a proper final moment, Dexter does, after all, deserve some punishment for the fact he's a goddamn serial killer and he never got it in the proper finale)

 

He wakes up lying unbound on the floor, with sirens outside and is finally caught in a compromising situation forcing him to flee alone to Argentina (OF COURSE!)

 

You see shots of him over 10-15 years, gradually getting older, with news reports showing certain key characters having been killed e.g. Batista shot during a random call out, with no suspect seen or found.

 

The final series of events is an older Harisson, who was placed under witness protection (this part's just left up to the audience to figure out because I don't assume everyone to be 5 year olds like the actual writers) walking alone at night. Saxon lurks out of the shadows and grabs him but then we see a gloves hand reach out and inject Saxon.

 

Cut to a final kill room with Dexter standing over Saxon, photos of his murdered friends, colleagues, Deb, Hannah, Vogel, with Make Your Own Kind of Music playing as he makes a speech about how he was wrong to give up killing, regardless of him having the urge or not because psycopaths like Saxon still exist and they deserve to be under his knife. Then he completes his classic kill ritual before slitting Saxons throat. The final shot could actually be exactly the same as the finale we got but with a slight edit; now it's Dexter, in a blood soaked mask, pulling the exact same face only with a slight smile after he opens his eyes. [/spoiler]

 

It's not perfect of course but I think I'd have enjoyed that ending a lot more, the show really lacked any sort of darkness and I think that might have brought some back in as well as actually having a satisfying end to Saxon and making him a more important character than just some weirdo guy who decides he wants to create a million plot holes.

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And that's why you're not a writer. That was so lame and silly I felt sorry for you, it felt like it was written by a 13 year old. You and the original show runner should get together, he also had a terribad ending for dexter.
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I came up with an ending last night (not necessarily better, just different and darker which is what I thought the show needed) that doesn't involve rewriting the whole season (even though that would be for the best) and isn't the generic "dying on the electric chair" ending. Anyway here's the main points:

[spoiler] The FBI guy doesn't exist, instead it's just Elway and he ends up getting killed by Saxon at the end of the penultimate episode.

 

Deb just dies after Saxon shoots her, no silly hospital nonsense.

 

Dexter is a complete mess after this, he finally lets emotions get the better of him (since they made him into a p***y anyway, might as well have him go completely human, but for good reason) and he's walking around Miami distraught or he's in a bar or something.

 

Saxon who's been following him, drugs him and takes him to an abandoned building (couldn't think of anywhere significant but I'm sure there's somewhere obvious). He's in an empty room with Saxon sitting on a chair with another person covered up sitting silently nearby.

 

Saxon explains that he's envious of Dexter and his ability to have a family and friends (mirroring the way Dexter acts towards Trinity, it felt like they were trying to do that anyway but never pulled it off) but after the way his mother treated him he wants to show Dexter what it feels like to be completely alone.

 

He reveals the other body to be Hannah, who's drugged as well and still completely unconscious. Saxon injects Dexter again, and as he's blacking out he see's Saxon slit Hannahs throat (this is a scene I imagine the show would actually do horribly with cheesy goodbyes but I like the idea of them not getting a proper final moment, Dexter does, after all, deserve some punishment for the fact he's a goddamn serial killer and he never got it in the proper finale)

 

He wakes up lying unbound on the floor, with sirens outside and is finally caught in a compromising situation forcing him to flee alone to Argentina (OF COURSE!)

 

You see shots of him over 10-15 years, gradually getting older, with news reports showing certain key characters having been killed e.g. Batista shot during a random call out, with no suspect seen or found.

 

The final series of events is an older Harisson, who was placed under witness protection (this part's just left up to the audience to figure out because I don't assume everyone to be 5 year olds like the actual writers) walking alone at night. Saxon lurks out of the shadows and grabs him but then we see a gloves hand reach out and inject Saxon.

 

Cut to a final kill room with Dexter standing over Saxon, photos of his murdered friends, colleagues, Deb, Hannah, Vogel, with Make Your Own Kind of Music playing as he makes a speech about how he was wrong to give up killing, regardless of him having the urge or not because psycopaths like Saxon still exist and they deserve to be under his knife. Then he completes his classic kill ritual before slitting Saxons throat. The final shot could actually be exactly the same as the finale we got but with a slight edit; now it's Dexter, in a blood soaked mask, pulling the exact same face only with a slight smile after he opens his eyes. [/spoiler]

 

It's not perfect of course but I think I'd have enjoyed that ending a lot more, the show really lacked any sort of darkness and I think that might have brought some back in as well as actually having a satisfying end to Saxon and making him a more important character than just some weirdo guy who decides he wants to create a million plot holes.

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That actually isn't a bad idea at all. Other than Hannah being alive, that's a pretty damn good ending.
And that's why you're not a writer. That was so lame and silly I felt sorry for you, it felt like it was written by a 13 year old. You and the original show runner should get together, he also had a terribad ending for dexter. Revisited
Oh, so you can do better can you? Let's here it out then, since you're so confident.
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Oh how the times have changed.

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#72 Brutal_Elitegs
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I think I once said I thought The Big Bang Theory was ok. To be fair to those guys, Dexter probably was awesome (haven't seen an episode) and the first two seasons of Breaking Bad aren't the high point of the series.

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#73 sammyjenkis898
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Oh how the times have changed.

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Cringing so hard right now.
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#74 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

Oh how the times have changed.

sammyjenkis898
Cringing so hard right now.

Hey, it had it's time, and the earlier seasons are still awesome :)
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#75 CleanPlayer
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That season finale left me feeling bitter and unsatisfied. I liked the idea of Dexter living an exiled life so he wouldn't be able to hurt anyone else, but wouldn't that just divert him back to killing people because of his "urges"? The way this whole season was built up was pathetic. There was zero suspense and too many meaningless sideplots distracted from the fact this was supposed to be the final chapter to Dexter's story and I much rather would have preferred Season 7 continue with LaGuerta's death and have Batista put his suspicions on Dexter and Deb. I think Showtime definitely could have learned some things from Breaking Bad because I have never seen a final season be so boring. Wish it was a cohesive story, but oh well at least we got 6 good seasons (1,2,3,4,5,7)
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[QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

Oh how the times have changed.

sammyjenkis898
Cringing so hard right now.

Figures
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Breaking bad spent the last 8 episodes building up to it's finale, while Dexter seemed like it used the last 15 minutes of the final episode.
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#78 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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Oh how I miss seasons 1-4 :(

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#79 m0zart
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"][QUOTE="DharmaMember77"]

Oh how the times have changed.

ShadowsDemon

Cringing so hard right now.

Hey, it had it's time, and the earlier seasons are still awesome :)

1, 2, and 4 are still great... especially 1, which was the best overall IMO.

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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"] Cringing so hard right now.m0zart

Hey, it had it's time, and the earlier seasons are still awesome :)

1, 2, and 4 are still great... especially 1, which was the best overall IMO.

I agree that season 1 was the best and the show never reached those highs again.

I would probably rank them 1>4>2>3>5>The rest.

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Dexter fell off hard after season 4 with a gleam of hope in season 7 with the whole Maria / Deb face off. Season 8 was a joke. When I first started watching Dexter I always imagined the series finale playing out with Dexter's walls closing in on him and everyone out to get him like Doakes.

What we got instead was a sappy soap opera triangle with the brain surgeon, Vogel and Hannah. For all of that, I'd rather Lumen return for the finale instead of Hannah. Dexter's logic for not going to Argetina was dumb. Everything was wrapped up and he had a chance to start over with a new family.

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Pretty much anything would have been better than that ending. I agree he should have been found out--they had the perfect opening with LaGuerta's death but watsed it.

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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"] Cringing so hard right now.m0zart

Hey, it had it's time, and the earlier seasons are still awesome :)

1, 2, and 4 are still great... especially 1, which was the best overall IMO.

That was likely because it was the closest to Lindsay's novel. I'd read it except I have way too many other books to read. :P
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[QUOTE="m0zart"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] Hey, it had it's time, and the earlier seasons are still awesome :)ShadowsDemon

1, 2, and 4 are still great... especially 1, which was the best overall IMO.

That was likely because it was the closest to Lindsay's novel. I'd read it except I have way too many other books to read. :P

Yes, but Lindsay's novel wasn't anywhere near as enjoyable. And his later novels in the series went in odd directions as time goes on. Even the series didn't go in as crazy a direction as the novels did.

The first season was great because the writing of the episodes was impeccable. I can still remember the chilling effect of watching the pilot episode way back, and that first season held me to my seat for its entire run. As time went on, the writing seemed to get worse. Season 3 actually left me with the distinct impression that each new writer or team of writers handling each new episode were trying to one-up or even undo the effect of the previous episode. It was just disjointed and disorganized.

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[QUOTE="m0zart"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] Hey, it had it's time, and the earlier seasons are still awesome :)DharmaMember77

1, 2, and 4 are still great... especially 1, which was the best overall IMO.

I agree that season 1 was the best and the show never reached those highs again.

I would probably rank them 1>4>2>3>5>The rest.

For me its......

2>1>4>3>7>the rest

but again, I didn't mind the finale, I thought it was decent, yet PALED compared to the BB finale.

Still it was the best episode of weak Season 8.

I really thought the show would reach even greater heights after the death of Rita. Instead, it failed miserably.

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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="m0zart"]

1, 2, and 4 are still great... especially 1, which was the best overall IMO.

m0zart

That was likely because it was the closest to Lindsay's novel. I'd read it except I have way too many other books to read. :P

Yes, but Lindsay's novel wasn't anywhere near as enjoyable. And his later novels in the series went in odd directions as time goes on. Even the series didn't go in as crazy a direction as the novels did.

The first season was great because the writing of the episodes was impeccable. I can still remember the chilling effect of watching the pilot episode way back, and that first season held me to my seat for its entire run. As time went on, the writing seemed to get worse. Season 3 actually left me with the distinct impression that each new writer or team of writers handling each new episode were trying to one-up or even undo the effect of the previous episode. It was just disjointed and disorganized.

I disagree. While the first season was good, my favourite was the 4th. And concerning the novels, I heard about that. Didn't they start to go in a supernatural direction? I've heard everyone say that the series is much better than the novels. Which is strange, considering how it's normally the other way around.
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#87 m0zart
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I disagree. While the first season was good, my favourite was the 4th.ShadowsDemon

I liked number 4, but it just didn't hit that peak that the first season hit for me. It wasn't just the story... I don't think the writing was as good either.

But to each his own.

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#88 mjf249
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The series finale was a joke.... Especially the cheap kill on the Brain Surgeon. Personally I wish Dexter would have been killed off by the Brain Surgeon... Would have been a fitting scene looking at the last seconds of Dexter through his eyes... And they shut and it's nothing but eternal darkness, much like what Dexter did, would have been a more fitting end to the series.
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#89 ShadowsDemon
Member since 2012 • 10059 Posts

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]I disagree. While the first season was good, my favourite was the 4th.m0zart

I liked number 4, but it just didn't hit that peak that the first season hit for me. It wasn't just the story... I don't think the writing was as good either.

But to each his own.

No, the writing was definitely better in the first season. I just liked the story and the balance between the two worlds that Dexter had.