Did Americans Ruin Dubstep?

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#1 black_chamber99
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i've read various blogs from bitter UK dudes lamenting the death of dubstep and blaming americans for ruining it.

 

is that true? :|

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#2 Stavrogin_
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You can't really ruin something that's already utterly horrible...
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#3 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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It was created by Brits, ruined by stupid Brits, and then killed by Americans. 

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#4 VanHelsingBoA64
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as an american, i can honestly say yes

now the same edm brostep morons have their eyes set on ruining trap music

honestly if these self proclaimed "bassheads" tried passing off what they call trap to any of the people who invented that shiit, they'd prolly get shot

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#5 MrPraline
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In the mainstream maybe, but it was always underground. Why consider the whole thing "ruined" because of some top 40 hits?
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#6 Nibroc420
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It was created by Brits, ruined by stupid Brits, and then killed by Americans. 

toast_burner
:lol: No, it really wasn't.
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#7 PernicioEnigma
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America is the reason we can't have nice things.
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#8 Randolph
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I don't know what a dubstep is. :|
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#9 xdude85
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It was shit to begin with.
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It was completely altered by Americans almost to a different genre.
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

It was created by Brits, ruined by stupid Brits, and then killed by Americans. 

Nibroc420

:lol: No, it really wasn't.

True. The genre is still alive, it's image is what's been destroyed. 

 

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#12 Nibroc420
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It was completely altered by Americans almost to a different genre. FrostyPhantasm
Everyone likes to pretend they were the origin of dubstep ;) It wasn't the UK or America FYI.
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#13 sune_Gem
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Implying it was ever good.

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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"]It was completely altered by Americans almost to a different genre. Nibroc420
Everyone likes to pretend they were the origin of dubstep ;) It wasn't the UK or America FYI.

Who would you say started it?

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#15 starfox15
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Always thought dubstep was the younger, dumber brother of techno and electronica. 

Is it fun to dance to mindlessly or drunk?  Sure, but do I listen to it on my own?  Hell no.  There are way too many better genres that feature electronic music to listen to than dubstep. 

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#16 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"]It was completely altered by Americans almost to a different genre. Nibroc420
Everyone likes to pretend they were the origin of dubstep ;) It wasn't the UK or America FYI.

Pretty sure it originated in London.
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#17 Djmaster214
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blegh dubstep. 

 

House all day

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#18 themajormayor
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Americans ruin pretty much everything
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#19 Silverbond
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Dubstep ruined dubstep

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#20 XaosII
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I would like to hear some of this "good", british dubstep.

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#21 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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I would like to hear some of this "good", british dubstep.

XaosII

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky5Mt2PLf9E

Dubstep is pretty much a different form of UK Garage. 

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#22 Chicken453
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Would this be classed as Dubstep? or Drum and Base? Probabaly one of the only Drum and Base/Dubstep songs I like. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iG_UCgCxPE Yes Americans killed it, it started out decent then just got worse and worse.
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#23 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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Would this be classed as Dubstep? or Drum and Base? Probabaly one of the only Drum and Base/Dubstep songs I like. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iG_UCgCxPE Yes Americans killed it, it started out decent then just got worse and worse. Chicken453
Drum and Bass. 

I don't really care for that style of DnB. I prefer stuff like Goldie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usqwy2-E4SE

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#24 dominer
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It all basically sounds the same unless someone can prove me otherwise.

What's there to ruin?

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#25 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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It all basically sounds the same unless someone can prove me otherwise.

What's there to ruin?

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Seeing how it's a rather vague genre. It varies a lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8Id5jMKQh0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95VhNNA18Eg

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#26 Chicken453
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[QUOTE="Chicken453"]Would this be classed as Dubstep? or Drum and Base? Probabaly one of the only Drum and Base/Dubstep songs I like. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iG_UCgCxPE Yes Americans killed it, it started out decent then just got worse and worse. toast_burner

Drum and Bass. 

I don't really care for that style of DnB. I prefer stuff like Goldie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usqwy2-E4SE

Ahh I see. Though that's not me :P
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#27 Jebus213
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no, dubstep was always terrible

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#28 frannkzappa
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You can't really ruin something that's already utterly horrible...Stavrogin_

this

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#29 Michael0134567
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Americans ruining things as usual.

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#30 OrkHammer007
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Dubstep: A toasyer dying of AIDS, which is recorded and passed off as "music." Nothing to ruin.

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#31 TheWalkingGhost
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How can something that sucked be ruined? Don't pass the buck to us.
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#32 00-Riddick-00
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It was already horrible.
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#33 VanHelsingBoA64
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i can basically guarantee that everyone complaining about dubstep always being terrible couldn't name a single producer from before 2010. it's sad
[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"]It was completely altered by Americans almost to a different genre. Nibroc420
Everyone likes to pretend they were the origin of dubstep ;) It wasn't the UK or America FYI.

you're clueless
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#34 black_chamber99
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

It was created by Brits, ruined by stupid Brits, and then killed by Americans. 

Nibroc420

:lol: No, it really wasn't.

 

who created it then?

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#36 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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You can't really ruin something that's already utterly horrible...Stavrogin_

Thread should have stopped here. 

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#37 LJS9502_basic
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You can't really ruin something that's already utterly horrible...Stavrogin_
This....
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#38 coolbeans90
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Was it ever good to begin with?

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#39 nomsayin
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Dubstep is garbage. Best EDM genre is clearrly house 

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#40 nomsayin
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actually, I like this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTsWotmVjz0

but that's i think that's largely due to Ellie Goulding 

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#41 Leejjohno
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TBH I never knew it before it became a compilation of random toilet sounds. Whatever the stuff I have heard is called is just awful... Some interesting links in this thread though. Even if it isn't to my taste I like discovering genres I haven't heard before.

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#42 wis3boi
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It was ruined before it existed

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#43 Shmiity
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There is a great picture where there is a singer with a microphone shoved up his butt, and it says "The creation of dubstep". I think that says it all.

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#44 consoletroll
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I like da blackmill and MiTiS. Dont like the knashing harsh crap.

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#45 konvikt_17
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i like some of it.

songs like "Etude" and "Doomsday" by Nero are the type of songs i like.

i do like some Skrillex, like "Bangarang" and some others i cant remember.

i very much enjoy this as well.

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#46 konvikt_17
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actually, I like this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTsWotmVjz0

but that's i think that's largely due to Ellie Goulding 

nomsayin

Love it!

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#47 the_bi99man
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No. Americans didn't ruin dubstep.

Dubstep ruined techno.

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#48 consoletroll
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zG_lckuzbo

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ITT: People who can't name more than two american dubstep artists and one UK dub artist criticize a genre they haven't even heard.
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#50 konvikt_17
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ITT: People who can't name more than two american dubstep artists and one UK dub artist criticize a genre they haven't even heard.FrostyPhantasm

hey do you have any recomendations for artists similar to Nero?

(ive seen you list her and other dubstep artists in the past, so figured id ask:))