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#1 MrGeezer
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Okay...some of you probably remember a previous thread I made, in which I was lamenting how a mentally retarded man was sorting to latch on to me as his only "friend". For those who didn't see that thread, here's some background information. Basically, there's a mentally retarded man who works at my job. He's cool, I suppose. I don't really like him, but I don't like people in general, so it's not like I only treat him nicely because he's retarded. Anyway, recently he threw a "party". No one EVER shows up. On previous occasions, I managed to get out of going to his parties because I had to work, or something. Most recently, I was unable to find such an excuse to not show up, so I promised him that I'd go to his "party". And yes, it was sad. It wasn't so much of a "party" as much as it was "having to sit there listening to him cry about how no one likes him and how they didn't show up." Which made me sort of pissed off at the people who promised to go to his "party" without ever having any intention of doing so. At least be honest with the dude, and tell him that you can't or won't go. But stringing along a mentally retarded man in such a fashion is just cruel.

I mean, he may be mentally retarded, but he's not completely ****ing stupid.

Anyway, I think that's enough for background information on this.

On to the current problem. Anyway, tonight I was at work. The mentally retarded man was there. He is participating in the Special Olympics tomorrow. He has been going around trying to get people to sponsor him, and several people have signed up. I didn't. I never told him that I would go. By sheer coincidence, his Special Olympic date takes place on the EXACT same date as my dad's birthday, which gives me a valid reason to not have anything to do with it.

Here's the thing...despite that he asks EVERYONE to go to his parties and sponsor his stuff, he asks VERY few people to shuttle him to and from work. He already has a "go-to" guy who drives him around all over the place. Someone who doesn't even work at the same place. And I know exactly how that man got in that situation...he was too nice. He gave the mentally retarded man his cell phone number, he always took the mentally retarded man where he needed to go, and he got locked into the zone in which he was in so deep that he couldn't say "no" to the mentlly retarded man. As a result, this guy is the primary means in which the mentally retarded man gets to work and then back home. He goes to work at a completely different establishment, he has to work into his schedule the time to drive to the retarded man's job and to then drive the retarded man back home. And I'm sure he doesn't like it.

Here's the problem though. If the mentally retarded man was previously relying on "Carter" to get him around, I'm strongly becoming "Carter's" replacement. If the mentally retarded man's name is William, then Carter KNOWS that I am in line to replace him as being William's personal transport. William has called Carter up and said "you don't have to drive me home, MrGeezer is taking me home." This has happened OFTEN, and I'm quickly becoming William's go-to guy when Carter can't or doesn't feel like driving William around.

Here's the thing though...every time that "William" has gotten me to drive him home, he ASKED. He asked, "can you take me home?" And I obviously said yes, since it's hard to say no to a mentally retarded man.

But we have a BIG problem tonight. William walked up to me, and didn't ASK if I could take him home. He said, "So...what time are you getting off, so that you can drive me home?"

And yes, I have a HUUUUUGE problem with that ****. I don't even care if he's mentally retarded or not. He's not STUPID, and he knew EXACTLY what he was doing when he said that ****. He wasn't ASKING me to take him home, he was TELLING me that I was taking him home, and that is a HUUUUUGE problem.

1) I generally tend to get off work pretty late. William knows this. Sure, I don't generally get done with work as late as Carter, but when william asks me to take him home, he still has to sit around WAITING for me to get done working. Whereas, if he really needed to get home that fast, there are any number of people he could ask to drive him home.

2) He lies. Maybe it's not entirely fair to say that he lies, seeing as how he's mentally retarded. Maybe he merely accidentally falsely gives information. But as I said before, he might be retarded, but he's not STUPID. I know for a fact that he is mentally capable of remembering sequences of numbers and words. If I ask William to go tell Joe that I need a vacuum cleaned, then William goes to Joe and says "MrGeezer says he needs the vaccuum cleaned."Ask him to do ****, he does it. Tell him thet he needs to be at work on Friday at 4:30, and he shows up at work on Friday at 4:30 He might be mentally retarded, but he's not stupid. I know him well enough to state that he is absolutely 100% capable of remembering sequences of words and numbers that he heard in the past, and then relating those sequences of words and numbers to PRESENT situations. So for example, suppose that William asks me to drive him to work on Sunday because Carter is on vacation in another State. I say, "Well, I haven't checked my schedule for Sunday, and don't know if I'm working the AM or PM shift. Since you need to be there in the AM, I'll take you to work if I also work in the AM. Hey, do me a favor. I'm busy right now. Go check my schedule, and tell me if I'm working the AM or PM shift."

He then goes, checks the schedule, and tells me that I'm working AM shift. I then double-check after he's gone home, seeing that I don't work AT ALL that entire day, and conclude that William simply LIED to me in order to get me to take him to work.

And I let it go. I woke up early on my day off, drove to his home in order to pick him up and take him to work, even though my entire obligation to do so was built on a lie that he likely deliberately told me in order to get me to do what he wanted. I let that go, I woke up early still tipsy from the night before, and drove him to work even though I was pissed off that he was lying to me.

3) And now we get to the REAL problem. Tonight, he wanted to get home early. You know, seeing as how he had to participate in the Special Olympcs the next morning. I have NEVER had a problem taking this dude where he needed to go when he asked. But tonight, he DIDN'T ask. He flat-out said some **** l;ie, "so, what time are you taking me home?" As if that was my ****ing JOB or something, or as if I was some kind of DOG that he can carry around on a leash.

The HELL with that. I don't care if the dude is mentally retarded or not, he is not STUPID. I know the dude, he knows EXACTLY what he was trying to do.

4) So...my reaction. I didn't have the balls to flat out tell the guy no, but he sprung this **** on me at the last minute, and I sure as hell didn't make much of any attempt to hurry my ass up. I took my time getting off work, then I hung around and had a few drinks. Oh, he kept pestering me about how he needs to get home early and get a good night's sleep if he's going to do well in the Special Olympics, but he DID spring this *** on me at the last minute, forcing me to cancel my plans (not that I had any plans, but I would have had plans if I wasn't a loser. And that's part of the problem...he felt it acceptable to treat me like a ****ing dog on a leash, because he deems me to be a loser with nothing better to do). He did TELL me that I was taking him home as oppsed to ASKING me if I would take him home, and that **** cannot stand. THAT **** NEEDS TO GET NIPPED IN THE BUD asap. The only reason I drove him home at all after thgat **** was because he has to compete in the Special Olympics, but I made DAMN sure to take my time driving him home. Because he needs to see that I'm NOT his lapdog who is free to get ordered around at a whim, and that i WILL delay his going to bed in order that I sit around and have a few beers. He absolutely needs to know that I have other **** to do aside from ferrying around town, and that MY priorities take precedence over his. He needs to realize that I don't OWE him a goddamn thing, and that when he tries to TELL me what's what, that I'm free to make him wait.

5) Here's the thing though. He's participating in the Special Olympics. I'm not attending the event, but some of the people attending the event ARE the same people who I work with. If William ****s up or loses, he's going to tell MY COWORKERS that I screwed him over by not taking him home in time to get a decent night's sleep (let's remember that this guy LIES). At that point, I could get socially ostracized at my place of business for choosing to hang around drinking beer instead of helping a retarded man win in the Special Olympics.

So here's the thing...What would YOU have done in this situation? Tonight was a turning point here. Because tonight marked the FIRST time that this dude actually TOLD me that I was cancelling any potential plans I had in order that I can take him where he needs to go, when he says so. That **** ABSOLUTELY cannot stand, because I'm not a retarded man's pet Work Monkey. Once that kind of **** starts to happen, then you need to nip it in the bud FAST.

However, the problem is that this dude is mentally retarded. Coworkers give him SYMPATHY while trying to minimize how much they actually get to KNOW him. As a result, most of the people at work probably don't know this guy very well. If he happens to lose the Special Olympics and then happens to say that it is my fault, who are my coworkers going to belive? Me, or the coworker who they think is too stupid to have the mental capacity for lies, deceit, and manipulation?

Depending on how well this guy does in the Special Olympics, it seems that there's a decent chance that I am completely **** regardless of my actions.

So...what shoukld I have done, and how would YOU have handled this situation if you were in my place?

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#2 Anti-Venom
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wow...just wow
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#3 Dylan_11
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I doubt you will be ostracized at work. If they don't go to his parties and things like that they must know how the guy is. What you need to do it just cut him off entirely. It's not mean at all.
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#4 optiow
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I honestly have not seen a thread this long in a long time... I think that you should treat him respect, but you can not let this man force you to do things you don't want to do at the last minute.
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#5 JigglyWiggly_
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Can i has condensed version?
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#6 freek666
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I don't give a damn if he is mentally retarded or anything, he is not the boss of and you shouldn't be at his beck and call. You gotta work late and he's TELLING you to take him home, tell him "too bad I got work to do, find someone else". Don't give into his ****, like you said, he isn't stupid. Whether or not he understands how much of a nuisance he is being to you is another thing.

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#7 deactivated-57e5de5e137a4
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I don't think you did anything wrong with that and you should probably set him straight on not pulling that **** again next time you get a chance to talk to him. If he really, really needed to get home, he could have taken a cab.

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#8 DigitalExile
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MrGreezer I love you. :oops: Seriously I love your posts, but this isn't the time to be admiring you.

This is one of those times where you didn't do anything wrong, but you'll probably get ****ed over for being a nice guy. In regard to him spreading rumours about you in the event he loses... I guess just tell the truth if anyone pesters you over it. He assumed you were going to take him home, but you already had plans. Yes, you already had plans. These plans be they drinking, or driving home alone, did NOT involve him in any shape or form. He DID interrupt your plans as non-existent as they were. You tell your co-workers, if they pester you, that you already drove him to work, on your day off, after he lied to you, and that you were going to drive him home because no one else will. If he expects you to drive him home, then he - and your co workers - will accept that you'll do it WHEN you feel like it.

Yes, you're in a delicate situation, but you're only there because you're the only one nice enough to give this manipulative guy a break - and I fully beleive that he is manipulative as you say. So if anyone pesters you about it, you tell them if they don't like it THEY take on the responsibility, because it sure as **** isn't yours.

As for this guy. Cut him off. Get the point across that he shouldn't ever, EVER rely on you. If you feel that bad that only drive him TO or FROM work ONCE a week. It's not your job so doing it even once is a favour he should be thanking you for.

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#9 -AlbertC
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Wow that was a big wall of text. Luckily it's late at night so I decided to read all of it

but seriously you messed up taking him home. Instead of taking your time just tell him no. It doesn't matter if he is mentally retarded, he should learn to respect your time off and things that you need to do. You screwed up by being the nice guy. Who cares what others think that you drove him home late. If they give you **** on that just reply "Well then maybe you should of taken him home, I had **** to do!"

simple as that. Don't worry about what others think or say, just defend yourself and don't be afraid to say no

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#10 TaigaTiger
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I'd simply make an excuse that i can no longer drive him home. You could also look for a service for him that will drive him to work and back, they do exist my grandfather uses one to get around and it is usually paid by the government.

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#11 SgtKevali
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Don't let him step all over you. It's ok for you to help him to a degree, but if he's taking advantage of you, that's a problem.

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#12 Faber_Fighter
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You're simply too damn nice. Ignore the fact that he's mentally retarded, ignore the fact that he might get angry at you or become sad, REMEMBER the fact that he's beginning to use you and that other people are jumping at this opportunity to further their contact with him so he won't ask them. I'm assuming socially ostracized means being sacked or penalised in some way, but I highly doubt anything is going to happen if he does complain, which I doubt he will in the first place. He's becoming too connected to you and you're not enjoying it, take a stand, forget that he's different and flat out say no. It's easier said than done, but you should put an end to it if you're not enjoying it.
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#13 MrGeezer
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I don't give a damn if he is mentally retarded or anything, he is not the boss of and you shouldn't be at his beck and call. You gotta work late and he's TELLING you to take him home, tell him "too bad I got work to do, find someone else". Don't give into his ****, like you said, he isn't stupid. Whether or not he understands how much of a nuisance he is being to you is another thing.

freek666

Oh, don't get me wrong. I agree entirely.

The problem is that this sets a very real potential for my work relationship to get negatively affecdted, based on the fact this man can easily blame me for making him lose the Special Olympics.

This dude lies. And there is a very real potential for other people to BELIEVE anything that he says about me. Because he's mentally retarded and I'm not. I'm one of the few people who actually spends time with the dude, which means that I knowhim better than many others. Others very well may not think him to be capable of lies and manipulation and deceit. They just see him as the nice innocent retarded man that they don't have to deal with since someone else will do that for him.

And then when he loses the Special Olympics and says that it's my fault for hanging around and getting drunk instead of taking him home, who are people going to believe? Me, or a mentally retarded man who seems to be incapable of lying?

This isn't about me and him at all. This is about whether or not I'll become a social pariah through absolutely no fault of my own.

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#14 Dylan_11
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How far away does he live from you by the way? If it's a significant distance say that you can't drive him because of gas issues. If all else fails start bicycling to work :P
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#15 TaigaTiger
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[QUOTE="freek666"]

I don't give a damn if he is mentally retarded or anything, he is not the boss of and you shouldn't be at his beck and call. You gotta work late and he's TELLING you to take him home, tell him "too bad I got work to do, find someone else". Don't give into his ****, like you said, he isn't stupid. Whether or not he understands how much of a nuisance he is being to you is another thing.

MrGeezer

Oh, don't get me wrong. I agree entirely.

The problem is that this sets a very real potential for my work relationship to get negatively affecdted, based on the fact this man can easily blame me for making him lose the Special Olympics.

This dude lies. And there is a very real potential for other people to BELIEVE anything that he says about me. Because he's mentally retarded and I'm not. I'm one of the few people who actually spends time with the dude, which means that I knowhim better than many others. Others very well may not think him to be capable of lies and manipulation and deceit. They just see him as the nice innocent retarded man that they don't have to deal with since someone else will do that for him.

And then when he loses the Special Olympics and says that it's my fault for hanging around and getting drunk instead of taking him home, who are people going to believe? Me, or a mentally retarded man who seems to be incapable of lying?

This isn't about me and him at all. This is about whether or not I'll become a social pariah through absolutely no fault of my own.

talk to a higher aithority about it before hand such as your boss let him know about the situation so if he goes and lies your boss will know that he is lying. Of course i think you are taking this to far, you can probably find a service for him thats paid by the government that will cart him around where ever he needs to be.
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#16 jimmyjammer69
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I'd have got walked all over too. Does the guy not have a carer to help him out in these situations?
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#17 Ultrabeatdown55
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I wouldn't take that from a mentally retarded man either way. I would tell him that it is rude not to ask and just assume that I would take him home, and if he told me anything like that again, I would never drive him anywhere ever again. I would make sure he understood.

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#19 Ultrabeatdown55
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[QUOTE="freek666"]

I don't give a damn if he is mentally retarded or anything, he is not the boss of and you shouldn't be at his beck and call. You gotta work late and he's TELLING you to take him home, tell him "too bad I got work to do, find someone else". Don't give into his ****, like you said, he isn't stupid. Whether or not he understands how much of a nuisance he is being to you is another thing.

MrGeezer

Oh, don't get me wrong. I agree entirely.

The problem is that this sets a very real potential for my work relationship to get negatively affecdted, based on the fact this man can easily blame me for making him lose the Special Olympics.

This dude lies. And there is a very real potential for other people to BELIEVE anything that he says about me. Because he's mentally retarded and I'm not. I'm one of the few people who actually spends time with the dude, which means that I knowhim better than many others. Others very well may not think him to be capable of lies and manipulation and deceit. They just see him as the nice innocent retarded man that they don't have to deal with since someone else will do that for him.

And then when he loses the Special Olympics and says that it's my fault for hanging around and getting drunk instead of taking him home, who are people going to believe? Me, or a mentally retarded man who seems to be incapable of lying?

This isn't about me and him at all. This is about whether or not I'll become a social pariah through absolutely no fault of my own.

If anybody says anything to you about it, bring up the parties and how you drive him home. Make them feel bad.
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#20 JigglyWiggly_
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Ok I read (for once)
Here is consdensed version for normal people

Anoyying mentally retartded man
Thinks TC is a loser(after a while, initially TC was being nice helping out the retard)
He is taking advantage of him by basically saying HEY TAKE ME HOME BEOOOTCH
TC is like YOU DONT DEMAND FROM ME YOU ASK THAT IS A BIG PROBLEM
TC may get harassed because he wanted to stand up for himself like a man, because of some olympic things for retards and if he does not do well, it is because the TC drove him late, because he is not obliged to follow up on a FAVOR, that is being taken advantage of)
Mentally retartded guy is like a toal noob, and keeps whining.

Basically, TC is gud guy in this scenario, and if I was TC, I would just flat out say NAO, I gots to go: "SOME TECHNICAL JARGON JARGON"
which would be completely successful, because he would feel stupid for not comprehending my geniusness. (Seperating stupid and retartded was a big point the TC made)

Do not when I say retard I mean in the retarded sense of being handicapped.

However my spelling is retarded in the stupid sense.

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#21 Dylan_11
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]Ok I read (for once) Here is consdensed version for normal people Anoyying mentally retartded man Thinks TC is a lower He is taking advantage of him by basically saying HEY TAKE ME HOME BEOOOTCH TC is like YOU DONT DEMAND FROM ME YOU ASK THAT IS A BIG PROBLEM TC may get harassed because he wanted to stand up for himself like a man Mentally retartded guy is like a toal noob, and keeps whining. Basically, TC is gud guy in this scenario, and if I was TC, I would just flat out say NAO, I gots to go: "SOME TECHNICAL JARGON JARGON" which would be completely successful, because he would feel stupid for not comprehending my geniusness. (Seperating stupid and retartded was a big point the TC made)

That was a harder read than the OP :?
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#22 markop2003
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You're right to be pissed off though it does seem like you're profiling him a bit too much as a guy who is purposefully trying to annoy you rather than just get what he wants. From his position it seems like using his disability is the only way he can get anyone to notice him. I say you should treat him like a normal person unless what he is doing is caused by his disability.
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I feel.. your pain.
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#24 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="Dylan_11"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]Ok I read (for once) Here is consdensed version for normal people Anoyying mentally retartded man Thinks TC is a lower He is taking advantage of him by basically saying HEY TAKE ME HOME BEOOOTCH TC is like YOU DONT DEMAND FROM ME YOU ASK THAT IS A BIG PROBLEM TC may get harassed because he wanted to stand up for himself like a man Mentally retartded guy is like a toal noob, and keeps whining. Basically, TC is gud guy in this scenario, and if I was TC, I would just flat out say NAO, I gots to go: "SOME TECHNICAL JARGON JARGON" which would be completely successful, because he would feel stupid for not comprehending my geniusness. (Seperating stupid and retartded was a big point the TC made)

That was a harder read than the OP :?

Sorry, you must be internets pro to understand my language.
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="Dylan_11"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]Ok I read (for once) Here is consdensed version for normal people Anoyying mentally retartded man Thinks TC is a lower He is taking advantage of him by basically saying HEY TAKE ME HOME BEOOOTCH TC is like YOU DONT DEMAND FROM ME YOU ASK THAT IS A BIG PROBLEM TC may get harassed because he wanted to stand up for himself like a man Mentally retartded guy is like a toal noob, and keeps whining. Basically, TC is gud guy in this scenario, and if I was TC, I would just flat out say NAO, I gots to go: "SOME TECHNICAL JARGON JARGON" which would be completely successful, because he would feel stupid for not comprehending my geniusness. (Seperating stupid and retartded was a big point the TC made)

That was a harder read than the OP :?

Sorry, you must be internets pro to understand my language.

but you said that is a version for normal people :|
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#26 JigglyWiggly_
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But normal peoples on gaming forums need to be Internet pro. So normal people in this sense wud refer to people who are pro.

Coincidentally I don't have an A in English.

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#27 nintendo-4life
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But normal peoples on gaming forums need to be Internet pro. So normal people in this sense wud refer to people who are pro.JigglyWiggly_
wow.... I applaud you... really.. to be able to wiggle your way out of that... just wow :D
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#28 Elephant_Couple
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I do remember your original post. You probably will not be ostracized by your co-workers. You can explain it to them anyways, I'm sure they understand your problem because they're so thankful that they don't have it.

Regardless of what happens at work, it's time to lay down the law with this guy. Tell him what you told us.

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#30 Tauruslink
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You did right in letting him now you are not his servant. Continue to make this clear to him.
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#31 X360PS3AMD05
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Taken him home then tell him you will stop after that.
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#32 Rekunta
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Be honest and tell him how you feel. You're letting him dictate your actions.

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#33 domatron23
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Classic MrGeezer rant. Love it. Don't let yourself be doormatted. Tell the guy that he needs to plan ahead with his transport and be independent rather than relying on you. As for your co-workers ostracising you, I wouldn't worry, it seems like you're being paranoid on that one. They'll likely understand what happened.
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#34 freek666
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[QUOTE="freek666"]

I don't give a damn if he is mentally retarded or anything, he is not the boss of and you shouldn't be at his beck and call. You gotta work late and he's TELLING you to take him home, tell him "too bad I got work to do, find someone else". Don't give into his ****, like you said, he isn't stupid. Whether or not he understands how much of a nuisance he is being to you is another thing.

MrGeezer

Oh, don't get me wrong. I agree entirely.

The problem is that this sets a very real potential for my work relationship to get negatively affecdted, based on the fact this man can easily blame me for making him lose the Special Olympics.

This dude lies. And there is a very real potential for other people to BELIEVE anything that he says about me. Because he's mentally retarded and I'm not. I'm one of the few people who actually spends time with the dude, which means that I knowhim better than many others. Others very well may not think him to be capable of lies and manipulation and deceit. They just see him as the nice innocent retarded man that they don't have to deal with since someone else will do that for him.

And then when he loses the Special Olympics and says that it's my fault for hanging around and getting drunk instead of taking him home, who are people going to believe? Me, or a mentally retarded man who seems to be incapable of lying?

This isn't about me and him at all. This is about whether or not I'll become a social pariah through absolutely no fault of my own.

I reckon save your integrity and if worse comes to worse, cop it on the chin. I'd much rather be a misunderstood social pariah than a doormat.

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#35 _Cadbury_
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Wow. Well. You seem to know/think that you screwed him over by staying back late. He's acting like its your responsibility to take him home from work, but because you haven't told him otherwise this is kind of telling him that you're accepting the responsibility. Maybe you could tell him well in advance that you can no longer drive him around, for whatever reason, tell him straight up how you feel about it, or come up with some kind of excuse. What makes you think hes going to blame you for losing the special olympics? I honestly don't think people will give you crap for it if he does say that. I know I wouldn't. There are so many other reasons for him losing.
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#36 hungry_pirate
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Makea perfect excuse like: I have a burnout so I can't drive you home all the time. Or just tell him no all the time he will understand it won't work with you and move on. I think you are right about that he is trying to use you but it's because you let him. You just need to be an ass like 99.9% of humanity(actually you are already an ass because you don't wanna help a retart who needs help but you don't have the balls to say no). JUST SAY NO!

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#37 gun-runner
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why in the name of the blue hell do you capitalise words mid-sentence
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#38 Kenny789
Member since 2006 • 10434 Posts

Ok I read (for once)
Here is consdensed version for normal people

Anoyying mentally retartded man
Thinks TC is a loser(after a while, initially TC was being nice helping out the retard)
He is taking advantage of him by basically saying HEY TAKE ME HOME BEOOOTCH
TC is like YOU DONT DEMAND FROM ME YOU ASK THAT IS A BIG PROBLEM
TC may get harassed because he wanted to stand up for himself like a man, because of some olympic things for retards and if he does not do well, it is because the TC drove him late, because he is not obliged to follow up on a FAVOR, that is being taken advantage of)
Mentally retartded guy is like a toal noob, and keeps whining.

Basically, TC is gud guy in this scenario, and if I was TC, I would just flat out say NAO, I gots to go: "SOME TECHNICAL JARGON JARGON"
which would be completely successful, because he would feel stupid for not comprehending my geniusness. (Seperating stupid and retartded was a big point the TC made)

Do not when I say retard I mean in the retarded sense of being handicapped.

However my spelling is retarded in the stupid sense.

JigglyWiggly_

Cool, I understood so that means I'm pro right? :D

To the TC, being a nice guy can suck sometimes. That guy is just getting comfortable with you and starting tot ake advantage. Step up and let him know where yuo stand.

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#39 branketra
Member since 2006 • 51726 Posts

:(

:arrow:......

:x.....:|

But really, your first mistake was letting a lie slide. Deal with the source.

Besides that, you said you had no plans. Yeah, the whole forced-thing sucks but....you didn't have plans.

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#40 LJS9502_basic
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You should have told him no....not let him think you'd be taking him home and then deliberately delaying it to get back at him for not asking.
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#41 hiphopballer
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wow that is a lot of text. summarize for me anyone???

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#42 Dystopian-X
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wow that is a lot of text. summarize for me anyone???

hiphopballer
tl;dr
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#43 Mochyc
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Here's what I would do: teach him how to use the subway or the bus, then keep your distance from him.
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#44 GHlegend77
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Okay...some of you probably remember a previous thread I made, in which I was lamenting how a mentally retarded man was sorting to latch on to me as his only "friend". For those who didn't see that thread, here's some background information. Basically, there's a mentally retarded man who works at my job. He's cool, I suppose. I don't really like him, but I don't like people in general, so it's not like I only treat him nicely because he's retarded. Anyway, recently he threw a "party". No one EVER shows up. On previous occasions, I managed to get out of going to his parties because I had to work, or something. Most recently, I was unable to find such an excuse to not show up, so I promised him that I'd go to his "party". And yes, it was sad. It wasn't so much of a "party" as much as it was "having to sit there listening to him cry about how no one likes him and how they didn't show up." Which made me sort of pissed off at the people who promised to go to his "party" without ever having any intention of doing so. At least be honest with the dude, and tell him that you can't or won't go. But stringing along a mentally retarded man in such a fashion is just cruel.

I mean, he may be mentally retarded, but he's not completely ****ing stupid.

Anyway, I think that's enough for background information on this.

On to the current problem. Anyway, tonight I was at work. The mentally retarded man was there. He is participating in the Special Olympics tomorrow. He has been going around trying to get people to sponsor him, and several people have signed up. I didn't. I never told him that I would go. By sheer coincidence, his Special Olympic date takes place on the EXACT same date as my dad's birthday, which gives me a valid reason to not have anything to do with it.

Here's the thing...despite that he asks EVERYONE to go to his parties and sponsor his stuff, he asks VERY few people to shuttle him to and from work. He already has a "go-to" guy who drives him around all over the place. Someone who doesn't even work at the same place. And I know exactly how that man got in that situation...he was too nice. He gave the mentally retarded man his cell phone number, he always took the mentally retarded man where he needed to go, and he got locked into the zone in which he was in so deep that he couldn't say "no" to the mentlly retarded man. As a result, this guy is the primary means in which the mentally retarded man gets to work and then back home. He goes to work at a completely different establishment, he has to work into his schedule the time to drive to the retarded man's job and to then drive the retarded man back home. And I'm sure he doesn't like it.

Here's the problem though. If the mentally retarded man was previously relying on "Carter" to get him around, I'm strongly becoming "Carter's" replacement. If the mentally retarded man's name is William, then Carter KNOWS that I am in line to replace him as being William's personal transport. William has called Carter up and said "you don't have to drive me home, MrGeezer is taking me home." This has happened OFTEN, and I'm quickly becoming William's go-to guy when Carter can't or doesn't feel like driving William around.

Here's the thing though...every time that "William" has gotten me to drive him home, he ASKED. He asked, "can you take me home?" And I obviously said yes, since it's hard to say no to a mentally retarded man.

But we have a BIG problem tonight. William walked up to me, and didn't ASK if I could take him home. He said, "So...what time are you getting off, so that you can drive me home?"

And yes, I have a HUUUUUGE problem with that ****. I don't even care if he's mentally retarded or not. He's not STUPID, and he knew EXACTLY what he was doing when he said that ****. He wasn't ASKING me to take him home, he was TELLING me that I was taking him home, and that is a HUUUUUGE problem.

1) I generally tend to get off work pretty late. William knows this. Sure, I don't generally get done with work as late as Carter, but when william asks me to take him home, he still has to sit around WAITING for me to get done working. Whereas, if he really needed to get home that fast, there are any number of people he could ask to drive him home.

2) He lies. Maybe it's not entirely fair to say that he lies, seeing as how he's mentally retarded. Maybe he merely accidentally falsely gives information. But as I said before, he might be retarded, but he's not STUPID. I know for a fact that he is mentally capable of remembering sequences of numbers and words. If I ask William to go tell Joe that I need a vacuum cleaned, then William goes to Joe and says "MrGeezer says he needs the vaccuum cleaned."Ask him to do ****, he does it. Tell him thet he needs to be at work on Friday at 4:30, and he shows up at work on Friday at 4:30 He might be mentally retarded, but he's not stupid. I know him well enough to state that he is absolutely 100% capable of remembering sequences of words and numbers that he heard in the past, and then relating those sequences of words and numbers to PRESENT situations. So for example, suppose that William asks me to drive him to work on Sunday because Carter is on vacation in another State. I say, "Well, I haven't checked my schedule for Sunday, and don't know if I'm working the AM or PM shift. Since you need to be there in the AM, I'll take you to work if I also work in the AM. Hey, do me a favor. I'm busy right now. Go check my schedule, and tell me if I'm working the AM or PM shift."

He then goes, checks the schedule, and tells me that I'm working AM shift. I then double-check after he's gone home, seeing that I don't work AT ALL that entire day, and conclude that William simply LIED to me in order to get me to take him to work.

And I let it go. I woke up early on my day off, drove to his home in order to pick him up and take him to work, even though my entire obligation to do so was built on a lie that he likely deliberately told me in order to get me to do what he wanted. I let that go, I woke up early still tipsy from the night before, and drove him to work even though I was pissed off that he was lying to me.

3) And now we get to the REAL problem. Tonight, he wanted to get home early. You know, seeing as how he had to participate in the Special Olympcs the next morning. I have NEVER had a problem taking this dude where he needed to go when he asked. But tonight, he DIDN'T ask. He flat-out said some **** l;ie, "so, what time are you taking me home?" As if that was my ****ing JOB or something, or as if I was some kind of DOG that he can carry around on a leash.

The HELL with that. I don't care if the dude is mentally retarded or not, he is not STUPID. I know the dude, he knows EXACTLY what he was trying to do.

4) So...my reaction. I didn't have the balls to flat out tell the guy no, but he sprung this **** on me at the last minute, and I sure as hell didn't make much of any attempt to hurry my ass up. I took my time getting off work, then I hung around and had a few drinks. Oh, he kept pestering me about how he needs to get home early and get a good night's sleep if he's going to do well in the Special Olympics, but he DID spring this *** on me at the last minute, forcing me to cancel my plans (not that I had any plans, but I would have had plans if I wasn't a loser. And that's part of the problem...he felt it acceptable to treat me like a ****ing dog on a leash, because he deems me to be a loser with nothing better to do). He did TELL me that I was taking him home as oppsed to ASKING me if I would take him home, and that **** cannot stand. THAT **** NEEDS TO GET NIPPED IN THE BUD asap. The only reason I drove him home at all after thgat **** was because he has to compete in the Special Olympics, but I made DAMN sure to take my time driving him home. Because he needs to see that I'm NOT his lapdog who is free to get ordered around at a whim, and that i WILL delay his going to bed in order that I sit around and have a few beers. He absolutely needs to know that I have other **** to do aside from ferrying around town, and that MY priorities take precedence over his. He needs to realize that I don't OWE him a goddamn thing, and that when he tries to TELL me what's what, that I'm free to make him wait.

5) Here's the thing though. He's participating in the Special Olympics. I'm not attending the event, but some of the people attending the event ARE the same people who I work with. If William ****s up or loses, he's going to tell MY COWORKERS that I screwed him over by not taking him home in time to get a decent night's sleep (let's remember that this guy LIES). At that point, I could get socially ostracized at my place of business for choosing to hang around drinking beer instead of helping a retarded man win in the Special Olympics.

So here's the thing...What would YOU have done in this situation? Tonight was a turning point here. Because tonight marked the FIRST time that this dude actually TOLD me that I was cancelling any potential plans I had in order that I can take him where he needs to go, when he says so. That **** ABSOLUTELY cannot stand, because I'm not a retarded man's pet Work Monkey. Once that kind of **** starts to happen, then you need to nip it in the bud FAST.

However, the problem is that this dude is mentally retarded. Coworkers give him SYMPATHY while trying to minimize how much they actually get to KNOW him. As a result, most of the people at work probably don't know this guy very well. If he happens to lose the Special Olympics and then happens to say that it is my fault, who are my coworkers going to belive? Me, or the coworker who they think is too stupid to have the mental capacity for lies, deceit, and manipulation?

Depending on how well this guy does in the Special Olympics, it seems that there's a decent chance that I am completely **** regardless of my actions.

So...what shoukld I have done, and how would YOU have handled this situation if you were in my place?

I would've done the same thing in your case, or I wouldn't've been able to sleep. I feel bad for special people. How old is this man? It might help us with the solutions.
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#46 GHlegend77
Member since 2009 • 10328 Posts

wow that is a lot of text. summarize for me anyone???

hiphopballer

Ok, this one man ,"William", is mentally retarded. Well his previous man to drive him to work, "Carter", was out of town on vacation or whatever. So "William" asks MrGeezer to drive him to work a few times. Then he lies to MrGeezer and teels him he's just on the AM shift. That pisses Geezer off, but he gets over it. So one night at work, "William" asks Geezer "What time ar you getting off, so you can take me home?". This pisses Geezer off bad because "William" told Geezer that Geezer was taking "William" home. "William" has to be home early because (:o PLOT TWIST) he's competing in the Special Olympics the next day. Geezer takes his sweet time doing all the crap he has to do, because he's DEFINITELY not taking "William" home on time to get a good nights rest. Now, Geezer is pissed because "William" is MR, but definitely not stupid. But now Geezer is afraid that if "William" fails at the Olympics, then "William" will tell his coworkers that it's Geezer's fault, which is bad for Geezer because Geezer, "William", and all of William's coworkers work at the same place. WHAT TO DO?! Condensed for all who need it.

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#47 stepnkev
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This reminds me of a something that happened to me a while back while I was still in the military. I decided to help out with the special Olympics one year by coaching these special kids. When it came time for my yearly review, my supervisor submitted the review to her supervisors.

What did the review say?

"Stepnkev" participated in the Special Olympics this year.

Everyone (including me) got a good laugh out of that one.

To reply to this post, I would have handled this differently. I would never see any need to be misleading to him just because he lied to me. I would have just been honest with him.

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#48 jrnhanie0310
Member since 2006 • 15177 Posts

wow i actually remember you talking about this guy quite a while agao.. i'm suprised to hear about him again.. but i guess thats just how it is..

i personally, would have told the guy to find someone else.. cause he should have at least the respect to constantly ask you, instead of just assuming that you will take him home everyday.. despite him having to participate in some event, it would be a good wake up call for the guy to realize that he can't just constantly rely on you for everything

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#49 needled24-7
Member since 2007 • 15902 Posts

if William complains to your coworkers, if they truly are douchebags, they might act like they feel sorry for him, but on the inside they might not care. if any of them confront you, you could just give them a concise explanation of what happened.

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#50 Zerocrossings
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I would have took him home early since he does have to participate the next morning. Then after the event i will make it clear to him that i wont be driving him home any longer.