Did Jesus really resurrect?

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#51 StarDust666
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god no, he did not resurrect! its the church's propaganda to keep the faith/belief alive, its better for them isn't it? think about all the $$$!! you believed in animals can talk and pigs can fly and god created this world or universe in 6 days... and of course there's no heaven. if there is why bother living on this earth when you can have all the virgins in the world! all you believers should go now.... heaven's gate is open
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#52 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="MichaeltheCM"]read the Bible. you'll find ur answer. Avitu666

The Bible...a book written by some primitive sheepherders between 3000 and 2000 years ago...oh and several chapter were added by a Roman traitor...I doubt that can be considered a correct source.

Even so...there are discrepancies in the whole cruxifixion-resurrection story:

1. Jesus was put up to the cross with nails. False...Crucifixion victims were TIED to the cross. Nails in the palms of the hand and in the feet, would just rip through the flesh once the victim is put up. So if Jesus had been crucified that way, he would have fallen off the cross. simple.

2. Jesus can't have been buried...Crucifixion victims were left to ro and were NEVER buried.

3. Romans didn't crucify somebody for being a peaceful prophet. Only violent rebels (f.ex. Spartacus) and traitors to the Empire faced the risk of crucifixion.

And then there's the fact of the so many eye-witnesses...strange that Paul is only the first to make mention of these...50 years after said events...

So, I find the whole faery tale hard to believe.

1. The common was to tie yes...but nails were used as well at times.

2. The body was taken down and asked to be buried...not in the ground....bya wealthy citizen. They allowed this and put Him in a tomb.

3. Being a peaceful prophet WASN'T the reason He was crucified.

It was spread by word of mouth...Paul WAS NOT the first to mention this. Logically, would you preach something that got you executed if you knew for a fact it was a lie? No....yet the word was spread even though many of the early Christians were killed because of it.

Read some history before making up points.

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#53 dommeus
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Wasn't the Turin Shroud already debunked as a fake made in the 13th Century? Didn't they carbon date it?

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#54 yian
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Wasn't the Turin Shroud already debunked as a fake made in the 13th Century? Didn't they carbon date it?

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dommeus

They did!?

Oh, geee, my bubble! You bursted it! Can someone now please start a new topic talking about something else so I can keep believing in God?

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#55 tobenator
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[QUOTE="MichaeltheCM"]read the Bible. you'll find ur answer. Avitu666

The Bible...a book written by some primitive sheepherders between 3000 and 2000 years ago...oh and several chapter were added by a Roman traitor...I doubt that can be considered a correct source.

Even so...there are discrepancies in the whole cruxifixion-resurrection story:

1. Jesus was put up to the cross with nails. False...Crucifixion victims were TIED to the cross. Nails in the palms of the hand and in the feet, would just rip through the flesh once the victim is put up. So if Jesus had been crucified that way, he would have fallen off the cross. simple.

2. Jesus can't have been buried...Crucifixion victims were left to ro and were NEVER buried.

3. Romans didn't crucify somebody for being a peaceful prophet. Only violent rebels (f.ex. Spartacus) and traitors to the Empire faced the risk of crucifixion.

And then there's the fact of the so many eye-witnesses...strange that Paul is only the first to make mention of these...50 years after said events...

So, I find the whole faery tale hard to believe.

Well we have a problem here now that is delving into a whole nother topic. If you first can't agree that the history printed in the Bible is true, then there isn't any way that anyone can convince you that Jesus ressurected, because you don't believe that he was crucified in the first place! But this is a completely different topic, and one that would take a long time to get both points of view across.

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#56 cjdaweasel
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No. Jesus retired to Brooklyn where he now lives with his wife of four years and two children: Rex and Camille