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#51 MAILER_DAEMON
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[QUOTE="topsemag55"]

[QUOTE="ScytheNL"]So, what would be the 'correct channels' to contact a mod? Because there is no 'contact' button or anything... You can't even reply to a moderation.ScytheNL

Post in the Ask The Mods forum, and make a link to your moderation history.

That sure helps the people that got banned and can't post any more :D

If you'd read the stickies in Ask the Mods, you'd know how to contact someone if banned. Making a new account to complain to the mods, who can't even undo a ban, just makes things worse.
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#52 lyeti
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[QUOTE="lyeti"]

[QUOTE="ayanami_rei"] +1 points? You don't get any points if you report someone. :?MAILER_DAEMON

I remmeber my mod messages saying that the member was rewarded or something for reporting me.

Good mark is just an automated PM saying "Thanks, we took action on your report." Points haven't been awarded with a good mark for 5 years. :|

Well that clears things up. Nm then.
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#53 ayanami_rei
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[QUOTE="ScytheNL"] That sure helps the people that got banned and can't post any more :D

Are you a ban dodger? You're ruining your chances of being unbanned, if your banning was uncalled for.
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#54 lyeti
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[QUOTE="ScytheNL"] That sure helps the people that got banned and can't post any more :Dayanami_rei
Are you a ban dodger? You're ruining your chances of being unbanned, if your banning was uncalled for.

yea, like hes gona say that he is if he is :roll:

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#56 SgtKevali
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I wouldn't see why not, unless you're doing so in a manner that would be offensive and such person doesn't post here. However, do not quote me on that and ask another moderator about it for a second opinion.

My bad. I meant if such person post here, not doesn't post here.

ayanami_rei

I understand this is the TOU, so you have no choice in the matter, but then I don't see why you shouldn't be able to call her retarded, as long as you aren't using it in a context with people who are actually mentally retarded.

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#57 ayanami_rei
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I blame the mods. If they had any common sense at all, they'd be able to tell when someone is reporting something petty just to be a douche. They're either too stupid to differentiate, or they ignore it and take action anyway.

Communistik
Well, with that kind of comment, no wonder you get moderated. There is no need to call moderators that. Sure, moderators make mistakes, but unlike before, we, well they, since I'm not a moderator anymore and it's the m-mods who can do the reversing, can reverse moderations. If you think it's unjust, go to AtM and ask POLITELY to have a discussion about why you were moderated. Do not be rude or troll them. You won't get help in that way.
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#58 MAILER_DAEMON
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[QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"][QUOTE="lyeti"]

I remmeber my mod messages saying that the member was rewarded or something for reporting me.

lyeti

Good mark is just an automated PM saying "Thanks, we took action on your report." Points haven't been awarded with a good mark for 5 years. :|

Well that clears things up. Nm then.

Why the crap do people still get this misconception? :evil: And for that matter, why blame reporters and call them "snitches" or worse?

I'm sorry, but there are only 4 parties you can attach any sort of blame to. CBS Legal and the admins for making the rules/ToU, the mods for enforcing said rules, and people who get moderated. Most of the time, the blame goes to the person whose reflection can be seen on the glass monitor or on the webcam staring at them. Some moderations are in error, and true errors, either in judgement, interpretation, and/or application (or just a straight-up whoops) get reversed. That doesn't happen much, but a good chunk of the time it's other moderators who seek reversals on things before people even appeal in some way.

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#59 lyeti
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[QUOTE="lyeti"]

[QUOTE="Communistik"]

Yea, this place definitely sucks ass now, thanks solely to the mods.

Communistik

Its the people who report you... the mods don't seem so bad, but they are probably obliged to delete anything found offensive.

I blame the mods. If they had any common sense at all, they'd be able to tell when someone is reporting something petty just to be a douche. They're either too stupid to differentiate, or they ignore it and take action anyway.

They have to take actions. Just like employees at places like maccas have to deal with complete **(#$% #^^= ^^&$&@!s. I think its kind of contractual, its got very set and strict rules which probably restricts a mods free choice. They have to follow the law to the letter to put it that way. I don't blame the mods too much, but I do blame them not being given enough slack.

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#60 ayanami_rei
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[QUOTE="ayanami_rei"]

I wouldn't see why not, unless you're doing so in a manner that would be offensive and such person doesn't post here. However, do not quote me on that and ask another moderator about it for a second opinion.

My bad. I meant if such person post here, not doesn't post here.

SgtKevali

I understand this is the TOU, so you have no choice in the matter, but then I don't see why you shouldn't be able to call her retarded, as long as you aren't using it in a context with people who are actually mentally retarded.

It's because it's being used as a synonym, which retarded isn't a synonym for stupid, thus being derogatory.
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#61 Dark_Knight6
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How is calling someone's thread "dumb" not trolling?

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#62 lyeti
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interpretation seems to be whats missing many times. I mean you can't really tell me right now that calling some unknowns ignorant of islamic culture when they are to be trolling? The post Could have been mistaken, but whilst this may be partly my fault for not setting out clearly, at least I expect there to have been some kind of attempt to understand what I said and perhaps admit that ignorant is not really that offensive, especially when its true.
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#63 ayanami_rei
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but a good chunk of the time it's other moderators who seek reversals on things before people even appeal in some way.

MAILER_DAEMON

And this does happen. I have gone to get reversals for many people because the moderation was correct, or it was because of a mistake on my part. It happens. Some catch it, some don't, some users who were unjustly moderated don't even seek to see if a moderation reversal is possible, thus shouldn't be allowed to complain. However, that's for another matter.

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#64 rragnaar
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How is calling someone's thread "dumb" not trolling?

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I'm glad someone asked that question.
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#65 SgtKevali
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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="ayanami_rei"]

I wouldn't see why not, unless you're doing so in a manner that would be offensive and such person doesn't post here. However, do not quote me on that and ask another moderator about it for a second opinion.

My bad. I meant if such person post here, not doesn't post here.

ayanami_rei

I understand this is the TOU, so you have no choice in the matter, but then I don't see why you shouldn't be able to call her retarded, as long as you aren't using it in a context with people who are actually mentally retarded.

It's because it's being used as a synonym, which retarded isn't a synonym for stupid, thus being derogatory.

The meaning of the word retarded has essentially changed to mean stupidity. That's how it is generally used in a context void of people with mental retardation. Similarly to how lame no longer refers to people who are disabled.

Retard is still used in talking about mentally retarded people, of course, but it has also become a synonym of stupid. Thus, whether or not this is truly derogatory depends on the context.

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#66 Suzy_Q_Kazoo
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Why is Gamespot claimed to be so sensitive, but whining about it on the forums not considered to be so as well?

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#67 Baconbits2004
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My last one was incrdibly stupid, yes. I don't see how it was "offensive" at all. Anyone who could get offended by it it is just an oversensitive wimp. :?

DJ-Lafleur

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you a moderator at one point? seems like an odd thing to say...

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#68 Baconbits2004
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I wouldn't see why not, unless you're doing so in a manner that would be offensive and such person doesn't post here. However, do not quote me on that and ask another moderatorabout it for a second opinion.

My bad. I meant if such person post here, not doesn't post here.ayanami_rei


Old habits, eh? =(

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#69 lyeti
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[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

My last one was incrdibly stupid, yes. I don't see how it was "offensive" at all. Anyone who could get offended by it it is just an oversensitive wimp. :?

Baconbits2004
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you a moderator at one point gov'na?

Mods are people too. Its just like what I meant before; they are bound by rules whether they like them or not.
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#70 ayanami_rei
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The meaning of the word retarded has essentially changed to mean stupidity. That's how it is generally used in a context void of people with mental retardation. Similarly to how lame no longer refers to people who are disabled.

Retard is still used in talking about mentally retarded people, of course, but it has also become a synonym of stupid. Thus, whether or not this is truly derogatory depends on the context.

SgtKevali
Actually, from what was told by someone who is a mod and in the medical field, "mentally retarded" isn't even medically correct.
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#71 ayanami_rei
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[QUOTE="ayanami_rei"]I wouldn't see why not, unless you're doing so in a manner that would be offensive and such person doesn't post here. However, do not quote me on that and ask another moderatorabout it for a second opinion.

My bad. I meant if such person post here, not doesn't post here.Baconbits2004


Old habits, eh? =(

Old habits? What do you mean? I'm just saying to ask another moderator in case I am, indeed, wrong. I do not want to steer the user in the wrong direction since I am not a moderator anymore. I cannot take blame like I would if I were a moderator.

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#72 SgtKevali
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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

The meaning of the word retarded has essentially changed to mean stupidity. That's how it is generally used in a context void of people with mental retardation. Similarly to how lame no longer refers to people who are disabled.

Retard is still used in talking about mentally retarded people, of course, but it has also become a synonym of stupid. Thus, whether or not this is truly derogatory depends on the context.

ayanami_rei

Actually, from what was told by someone who is a mod and in the medical field, "mentally retarded" isn't even medically correct.

That bolsters my point further.

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#73 Baconbits2004
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[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"]

[QUOTE="ayanami_rei"]I wouldn't see why not, unless you're doing so in a manner that would be offensive and such person doesn't post here. However, do not quote me on that and ask another moderatorabout it for a second opinion.

My bad. I meant if such person post here, not doesn't post here.ayanami_rei


Old habits, eh? =(

Old habits? What do you mean? I'm just saying to ask another moderator in case I am, indeed, wrong. I do not want to steer the user in the wrong direction since I am not a moderator anymore. I cannot take blame like I would if I were a moderator.

Well, you said 'another moderator' (I had highlighted it, but it doesn't show up very well) anyways, saying 'another' implies that there are two mods. You, and another mod that he should perhaps ask... unless I'm misunderstanding. o.o

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#74 Dark_Knight6
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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

How is calling someone's thread "dumb" not trolling?

rragnaar

I'm glad someone asked that question.

I'm normally the first one to be very critical of the moderators but this is a blatant violation.

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#75 GazaAli
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Well you know now.
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#76 ayanami_rei
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Well, you said 'another moderator' (I had highlighted it, but it doesn't show up very well) anyways, saying 'another' implies that there are two mods. You, and another mod that he should perhaps ask... unless I'm misunderstanding. o.o

Baconbits2004
Oh, I mean to ask another moderator about it just in case. A second opinion. I'm not a moderator right now, so I should just be treated as a regular user, so I don't want to steer him in the wrong direction since I am, in fact, just another user like you guys. :P I cannot take blame like I would have if I was still a moderator. I would tell the moderator in action, hypothetically, "That was my fault. I told him such and such was okay." As a regular user, I really can't do that because it's not my place. Understand what I'm saying?

That bolsters my point further.

SgtKevali
I honestly am not sure what to tell you. There's been discussion over this before, and the moderations for this isn't even as harsh as it once was. Before, you would be automatically suspended for the derogatory use. Now, you're given five chances to straighten up and not do it again. If I could, I would do the research and time to look this all up, but being limited to such things, I cannot. :/ I'm not a moderator anymore and this was all talked about among the mods, so I just cannot help you out. You can talk to a moderator about this and see what kind of discussion you can come up with, but right now, I'm just limited. I cannot give much besides the old, "It just makes sense in this way."
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#77 ayanami_rei
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[QUOTE="rragnaar"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

How is calling someone's thread "dumb" not trolling?

Dark_Knight6

I'm glad someone asked that question.

I'm normally the first one to be very critical of the moderators but this is a blatant violation.

Where did this happen? I'm still trying to figure this out. o.o (And before you make fun of me for my blindness or lack of awareness, I'm doing other things. :P I just got done getting rid of malware on my computer, so I'm in the process of doing other things.)
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#78 Sajo7
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There is a certain mod who feels the need to punish anything remotely moddable. But by the TOU he isn't doing anything wrong. To be fair I haven't been modded in awhile and I think things have eased up.
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#79 Baconbits2004
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Oh, I mean to ask another moderator about it just in case. A second opinion. I'm not a moderator right now, so I should just be treated as a regular user, so I don't want to steer him in the wrong direction since I am, in fact, just another user like you guys. :P I cannot take blame like I would have if I was still a moderator. I would tell the moderator in action, hypothetically, "That was my fault. I told him such and such was okay." As a regular user, I really can't do that because it's not my place. Understand what I'm saying? ayanami_rei

I get you. :P Just a strange misunderstanding. *nods*

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#80 Dark_Knight6
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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="rragnaar"] I'm glad someone asked that question.ayanami_rei

I'm normally the first one to be very critical of the moderators but this is a blatant violation.

Where did this happen? I'm still trying to figure this out. o.o (And before you make fun of me for my blindness or lack of awareness, I'm doing other things. :P I just got done getting rid of malware on my computer, so I'm in the process of doing other things.)

The TC mentioned in his initial post that he was modded for calling someone's thread "dumb" and then attempted to justify it by saying "because it was". And no problem.

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#81 Good-Apollo
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Mod takes personal offence at something = trolling.
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#82 testfactor888
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*rant from first page Elephant_Couple

so find another site?

edit - Nevermind this user got banned :o

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#83 zmbi_gmr
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@tc

Yes I have been modded for reasons that I don't consider offensive enough to be modded for. I try to learn my lesson, and then go back into OT society with a new found consideration on how to conduct conversations in this place. :P

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Elephant_Couple

The Banhammer strikes..

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#85 blazblue152
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Am I the only one who like Gamespot ToS? I actually salute the mods productivity, they should get paid if they already aren't!

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#86 rcignoni
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All the time.
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#88 Atmanix
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[QUOTE="Elephant_Couple"]*rant from first page testfactor888

so find another site?

edit - Nevermind this user got banned :o

Wow... I actually kinda liked him :( That's too bad.

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#89 LJS9502_basic
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Insulting a thread = insulting the TC which is always a moderation. Anyway you want ATM.

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#90 racing1750
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Sounds like you deserved your moderation. I've had 3 warning all together since i joined January 2010.
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#91 coreybg
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Looks to me like someone who disagrees with you, reports your post and a mod deletes it without looking at it.

I got a moderation in some thread. Question was which is better - some console or pc.

First guy said "Uh PC" 2nd guy said "PC Obviously"

I quoted

wrote: uh PCwrote:

obviously...

And was moderated for disruptive posting....

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#92 LJS9502_basic
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Looks to me like someone who disagrees with you, reports your post and a mod deletes it without looking at it.

I got a moderation in some thread. Question was which is better - some console or pc.

First guy said "Uh PC" 2nd guy said "PC Obviously"

I quoted

wrote: uh PCwrote:

obviously...

And was moderated for disruptive posting....

coreybg

Blank quotes are considered disruptive. It's in the ToU....

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#93 comp_atkins
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i don't know how you can be here for more than a few weeks and not have gotten one :P
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#94 Desulated
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Saying over 9000 in a thread asking how many arks did Noah have.

How that is disruptive I'll never know. In fact I've seen more ridiculous amounts posted there.

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#95 LJS9502_basic
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i don't know how you can be here for more than a few weeks and not have gotten one :Pcomp_atkins
I was here a few years before I got one.....
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[QUOTE="fighter91"]I recently got moderated because i called the lady who was against video game violence a retard in my thread. Keep in mind that I never called another GS user a retard I was just referring to the lady i saw on the TV...ayanami_rei
That's because you used it in a derogatory way. Calling her retard as a synonym for stupid is going to get you moderated.

Oh noes it's like being slapped on the bum.

I do dislike how sensitive people on here are, it just annoys me, would like to see how well they do in public.

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#97 Dracula68
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Anyway, on to the purpose of this thread. Have you ever got an email from GS about a terms of violation use for a dumb reason, and what was it about?

Explode50

Locking as the only purpose this serves it to bait users into getting moderated themselves as evidenced by the deleted posts.