Do murderers deserve to live?

Do you think murderers that kills people for little reasons deserve to live? should they get released and have a second chance in life?

Yes, I think they should prove that they could benefit society in some way or form before they are released though. Everyone deserves a second chance in my opinion............except Bush, that just went wrong.

They deserve to be punished, but I'd think they should live.

No they don't. They all deserve to rot in a jail cell for the rest of there lives.

I don't think we're good enough at handing out the justice to do something as permanent as handing out death.duxup

they deserved to die a very painful death, what they did to who they killed.

[QUOTE="duxup"]I don't think we're good enough at handing out the justice to do something as permanent as handing out death.Im_single

No one deserves to live. You didn't really have to do anything to live, you just have it. The only reason you live is because you are a body with function. When one functioning body takes away anotherr, it is as it is. Any pity implications are due to mere feelings. Nature runs its course regardless if you are a generous man who donates to right causes or a man who lives only to kill. Eventually you will all cease to function, you will become obsolete and devoid of all you ever knew. The living are the judges to the living, they decide who lives and who dies, but from a completely non-human perspective, does anyone deserve their life? I don't see the reason for it.

Do you think murderers that kills people for little reasons deserve to live? should they get released and have a second chance in life?

Laughing_God

I personally don't think that ANYONE "deserves" to live. At least, looking at it from a non-legal sense. I was born because I got lucky, and I'm gonna die regardless. To me, the idea of "deserving to live" is as mindboggling and nonsensical as having the right to not be born as a mutated freak.

People don't "deserve" to live, they simply live. Until they die. And that applies to every single organism which has ever existed.

No one deserves to live. You didn't really have to do anything to live, you just have it. The only reason you live is because you are a body with function. When one functioning body takes away anotherr, it is as it is. Any pity implications are due to mere feelings. Nature runs its course regardless if you are a generous man who donates to right causes or a man who lives only to kill. Eventually you will all cease to function, you will become obsolete and devoid of all you ever knew. The living are the judges to the living, they decide who lives and who dies, but from a completely non-human perspective, does anyone deserve their life? I don't see the reason for it.

WhiteSnake5000

You know nazis thought that way.

[QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"]

No one deserves to live. You didn't really have to do anything to live, you just have it. The only reason you live is because you are a body with function. When one functioning body takes away anotherr, it is as it is. Any pity implications are due to mere feelings. Nature runs its course regardless if you are a generous man who donates to right causes or a man who lives only to kill. Eventually you will all cease to function, you will become obsolete and devoid of all you ever knew. The living are the judges to the living, they decide who lives and who dies, but from a completely non-human perspective, does anyone deserve their life? I don't see the reason for it.

Blubadox

You know nazis thought that way.

Nazis also liked getting laid.

Do YOU like getting laid?

If so, what does that make you?

[QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"]

No one deserves to live. You didn't really have to do anything to live, you just have it. The only reason you live is because you are a body with function. When one functioning body takes away anotherr, it is as it is. Any pity implications are due to mere feelings. Nature runs its course regardless if you are a generous man who donates to right causes or a man who lives only to kill. Eventually you will all cease to function, you will become obsolete and devoid of all you ever knew. The living are the judges to the living, they decide who lives and who dies, but from a completely non-human perspective, does anyone deserve their life? I don't see the reason for it.

Blubadox

You know nazis thought that way.

[QUOTE="Blubadox"]

[QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"]

No one deserves to live. You didn't really have to do anything to live, you just have it. The only reason you live is because you are a body with function. When one functioning body takes away anotherr, it is as it is. Any pity implications are due to mere feelings. Nature runs its course regardless if you are a generous man who donates to right causes or a man who lives only to kill. Eventually you will all cease to function, you will become obsolete and devoid of all you ever knew. The living are the judges to the living, they decide who lives and who dies, but from a completely non-human perspective, does anyone deserve their life? I don't see the reason for it.

MrGeezer

You know nazis thought that way.

Nazis also liked getting laid.

Do YOU like getting laid?

If so, what does that make you?

[QUOTE="Blubadox"]

[QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"]

No one deserves to live. You didn't really have to do anything to live, you just have it. The only reason you live is because you are a body with function. When one functioning body takes away anotherr, it is as it is. Any pity implications are due to mere feelings. Nature runs its course regardless if you are a generous man who donates to right causes or a man who lives only to kill. Eventually you will all cease to function, you will become obsolete and devoid of all you ever knew. The living are the judges to the living, they decide who lives and who dies, but from a completely non-human perspective, does anyone deserve their life? I don't see the reason for it.

MrGeezer

You know nazis thought that way.

Nazis also liked getting laid.

Do YOU like getting laid?

If so, what does that make you?

[QUOTE="Blubadox"]

[QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"]

No one deserves to live. You didn't really have to do anything to live, you just have it. The only reason you live is because you are a body with function. When one functioning body takes away anotherr, it is as it is. Any pity implications are due to mere feelings. Nature runs its course regardless if you are a generous man who donates to right causes or a man who lives only to kill. Eventually you will all cease to function, you will become obsolete and devoid of all you ever knew. The living are the judges to the living, they decide who lives and who dies, but from a completely non-human perspective, does anyone deserve their life? I don't see the reason for it.

You know nazis thought that way.

Nazis also liked getting laid.

Do YOU like getting laid?

If so, what does that make you?

Depends on whether or not they have been rehabilitated and are fit for social integration.-Chimera-

[QUOTE="-Chimera-"]Depends on whether or not they have been rehabilitated and are fit for social integration.XBebop

[QUOTE="XBebop"][QUOTE="-Chimera-"]Depends on whether or not they have been rehabilitated and are fit for social integration.ferrari2001

[QUOTE="-Chimera-"]Depends on whether or not they have been rehabilitated and are fit for social integration.XBebop

[QUOTE="XBebop"][QUOTE="-Chimera-"]Depends on whether or not they have been rehabilitated and are fit for social integration.ferrari2001

[QUOTE="XBebop"][QUOTE="-Chimera-"]Depends on whether or not they have been rehabilitated and are fit for social integration.-Chimera-

That's a bit of an odd comparison when it's between an idealism and sexual feelings.moose_knuckler

Alright, then. Nazis also believed in family loyalty.

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="XBebop"] LMAO. Kill them, it saves money.moose_knuckler

[QUOTE="-Chimera-"]No it doesn't. At least not with the legal system we have and the fact that we cannot truly determine whether or not a defendant is innocent or guilty, which will invariably result in putting innocent people to death.WhiteSnake5000

http://www.amnestyusa.org/death-penalty/death-penalty-facts/death-penalty-and-innocence/page.do?id=1101086

Since 1973, over 130 people have been released from death rows throughout the country due to evidence of their wrongful convictions. In 2003 alone, 10 wrongfully convicted defendants were released from death row. Death penalty article

Keep in mind that we don't hand out the death penalty all that much as a whole. Most of the death penalty sentences come from my state of Texas, and just two years ago we only executed 42 people in the entire country, and it's been around that number for a few decades. Yet we've had plenty of people being taken off of death row because of evidence of wrongful convictions, and historically we've had plenty of people who were sentenced to death and later founded to be not guilty, yet died before the evidence was disclosed.

[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"] Here we go again. No it does not save money. I don't know why people believe the death penalty is cheaper. Considering Court fees, Lawyers, Jury's, Private Investigators, Their jail time there are serving already, Appeals. it costs millions of dollars for all of this, when we could put him away for life for MUCH cheaper. ferrari2001

[QUOTE="Blubadox"]

[QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"]

No one deserves to live. You didn't really have to do anything to live, you just have it. The only reason you live is because you are a body with function. When one functioning body takes away anotherr, it is as it is. Any pity implications are due to mere feelings. Nature runs its course regardless if you are a generous man who donates to right causes or a man who lives only to kill. Eventually you will all cease to function, you will become obsolete and devoid of all you ever knew. The living are the judges to the living, they decide who lives and who dies, but from a completely non-human perspective, does anyone deserve their life? I don't see the reason for it.

WhiteSnake5000

You know nazis thought that way.

Yeah...I remember reading something like that in my textbooks when I was in school...no offense.

[QUOTE="Blubadox"]

[QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"]

No one deserves to live. You didn't really have to do anything to live, you just have it. The only reason you live is because you are a body with function. When one functioning body takes away anotherr, it is as it is. Any pity implications are due to mere feelings. Nature runs its course regardless if you are a generous man who donates to right causes or a man who lives only to kill. Eventually you will all cease to function, you will become obsolete and devoid of all you ever knew. The living are the judges to the living, they decide who lives and who dies, but from a completely non-human perspective, does anyone deserve their life? I don't see the reason for it.

MrGeezer

You know nazis thought that way.

Nazis also liked getting laid.

Do YOU like getting laid?

If so, what does that make you?

come on, you'vehave about 43k posts...do you want it to end it there? No more personal attacks please....trust me I can do it better.

I think that if someone doessomething like kills a child, or a random person in cold blood, they themselves do not deserve to live..
Its just so sickening to imagine someone being so heartless as to take someones life, something oh so dear and irreplaceable, and just stomp on and extinguish it.

I feel strongly about rapists too... They shouldnt be killed, but I wont go into what I think should be done to them..

an eye for an eye

Yes. Because no human being has the right to determine whether someone lives or dies.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="Blubadox"]

You know nazis thought that way.

Blubadox

Nazis also liked getting laid.

Do YOU like getting laid?

If so, what does that make you?

come on, you'vehave about 43k posts...do you want it to end it there? No more personal attacks please....trust me I can do it better.

How was that a personal attack?

[QUOTE="Blubadox"]

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Nazis also liked getting laid.

Do YOU like getting laid?

If so, what does that make you?

come on, you'vehave about 43k posts...do you want it to end it there? No more personal attacks please....trust me I can do it better.

How was that a personal attack?

We shouldn't execute them first, we should try to fix their problem.

Well yes I think they do.

And that's because I believe in the societal conditions (not only societal - I guess every environmental conditions) as a major factor contributing to what one becomes in life.

So I am all for punishing but against thinking of said person in a demeaning way.