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#1 danpez8900
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do u think man will be more powerful than god in the distant future?

like control the weather and cure all diseases?

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#2 purplemonkey87
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Diseases mutate, which is why you can catch the flu again and again. So no.
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do u think man will be more powerful than god in the distant future?

like control the weather and cure all diseases?

danpez8900

You're probably going to catch alot of flak for this. Some may ridicule you, and you are starting a debate which has already been repeated on this board many times.

As for my answer, man makes medicine which in turn heals or cures the sick. I don't know about all diseases seeing since new ones may develop in the future. As for weather, it's a matter of developing the technology.

No as for the argument of man vs God and vice versa, it is not my place to decide or say. I can't prove God's existence, nor can I disprove his/her existence. However, there is an existence in the thought of a higher power, and that gives people faith and reason to govern their lives.

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judging by the fact that without the simplest of organisms, men would be dead now, in the sense of God being nature embodied, no.
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#5 Mercury88
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Well God's meant to be Omni-potent (all powerful) so I'm not sure howman can become more powerful..
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#6 danpez8900
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well i'm not religous but i hope there is a heaven. But i've heard people like ono yoko that man will cure a disease for ageing.
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#7 arab_prince
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No...nevarr.
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#8 worthyofnote
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well i'm not religous but i hope there is a heaven. But i've heard people like ono yoko that man will cure a disease for ageing.danpez8900

Sure, I've got a cure for that. It's called being young at heart.

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do u think man will be more powerful than god in the distant future?

like control the weather and cure all diseases?

danpez8900

Taking the following assumptions:

1. God exists

2. God is almighty

3. You don't believe in magic

Then you need to build such a device that can alter any aspect of the time-space phenomena, which the consequence of which will be probably the end all of matter and energy in the universe, because we are that stupid. All that leading to my theory that when man will become a god through technology, he will cease to exist, since technology gives you power without responsibility, such ultimate power will be too much for our weak minds to handle.

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#10 danpez8900
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humans are getting intelligant all the time tho.

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#11 Judza
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humans are getting intelligant all the time tho.

danpez8900

Granted...that just made me laugh.

Back on topic though...yes, because of advances in medical and life assisting technology, we are prolonging life and improving the quality of said life.

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#12 danpez8900
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is yoda brainer than god?

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#13 worthyofnote
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is yoda brainer than god?

danpez8900

I don't believe in Yoda, but I can prove he doesn't exist in real life. I don't exactly believe in God, however I can't disprove his existence.Only as a fictitious character does Yoda exist. As for God, as I said before, it seems his/her existence can't be proven or disproven. So I have no real answer for your question.

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#14 foggy666
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[QUOTE="danpez8900"]

humans are getting intelligant all the time tho.

Judza

Granted...that just made me laugh.

Back on topic though...yes, because of advances in medical and life assisting technology, we are prolonging life and improving the quality of said life.

Well because I like to argue I will strongly disagree with you (in the end everything is an opinion), i think that while science does prolong life, one look at the elderly makes me want to die young, after hearing them complain about every single body illness to ever struck mankind, I understood that drug companies just prolong your life so you can buy more of their product, drugs (the legal ones...). Living till 85, but in the process become half-machine (or cyborg if you prefer) dependant on chemicals to sustain your so called life, well, makes me want to fling myself off a cliff.

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#15 Erasorn
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Diseases mutate, which is why you can catch the flu again and again. So no.purplemonkey87
Yeah, prokaryotes>Eukaryotes. Also, viruses are awesome.
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do u think man will be more powerful than god in the distant future?

like control the weather and cure all diseases?

foggy666

Taking the following assumptions:

1. God exists

2. God is almighty

3. You don't believe in magic

Then you need to build such a device that can alter any aspect of the time-space phenomena, which the consequence of which will be probably the end all of matter and energy in the universe, because we are that stupid. All that leading to my theory that when man will become a god through technology, he will cease to exist, since technology gives you power without responsibility, such ultimate power will be too much for our weak minds to handle.

Perhaps to your weak mind it will, but to my superior mine it will mean cookies for everyone.
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#16 worthyofnote
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[QUOTE="Judza"][QUOTE="danpez8900"]

humans are getting intelligant all the time tho.

foggy666

Granted...that just made me laugh.

Back on topic though...yes, because of advances in medical and life assisting technology, we are prolonging life and improving the quality of said life.

Well because I like to argue I will strongly disagree with you (in the end everything is an opinion), i think that while science does prolong life, one look at the elderly makes me want to die young, after hearing them complain about every single body illness to ever struck mankind, I understood that drug companies just prolong your life so you can buy more of their product, drugs (the legal ones...). Living till 85, but in the process become half-machine (or cyborg if you prefer) dependant on chemicals to sustain your so called life, well, makes me want to fling myself off a cliff.

I could agree with all of that.

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#17 Loonie
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if god controls the weather, how do we predict it?!
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#18 EwanMac
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Man is already more powerful than "God" because man created "God". I would like to imagine that someday humanity would be able to cure all illnesses but I don't see it happening any time soon. As for controlling the weather, Man should NEVER be given the right nor the means to control nature like that. Ever.
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#19 g-unit248
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it all depends on if man created god in the first place...
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#20 Mumbles527
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Humans are already more powerful than God. How could something nonexistent have any power at all? And I know people will say something like, "How can you prove he doesn't exist?" Well, that isn't my problem, since the burden of proof is on the people who think he does, and so far they've come up with nothing at all.
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#21 worthyofnote
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Man is already more powerful than "God" because man created "God". I would like to imagine that someday humanity would be able to cure all illnesses but I don't see it happening any time soon. As for controlling the weather, Man should NEVER be given the right nor the means to control nature like that. Ever. EwanMac

Possible, but I'd like to see the evidence. The last time I checked, the verdict on that wasn't out yet. And since you have made such a bold statement, the burden of proof would seem to fall upon your shoulders.

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#22 EwanMac
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[QUOTE="EwanMac"]Man is already more powerful than "God" because man created "God". I would like to imagine that someday humanity would be able to cure all illnesses but I don't see it happening any time soon. As for controlling the weather, Man should NEVER be given the right nor the means to control nature like that. Ever. worthyofnote

Possible, but I'd like to see the evidence. The last time I checked, the verdict on that wasn't out yet. And since you have made such a bold statement, the burden of proof would seem to fall upon your shoulders.

It is a burden I am glad to bear. Even if God does exist, what is God without man?

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#23 worthyofnote
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[QUOTE="worthyofnote"]

[QUOTE="EwanMac"]Man is already more powerful than "God" because man created "God". I would like to imagine that someday humanity would be able to cure all illnesses but I don't see it happening any time soon. As for controlling the weather, Man should NEVER be given the right nor the means to control nature like that. Ever. EwanMac

Possible, but I'd like to see the evidence. The last time I checked, the verdict on that wasn't out yet. And since you have made such a bold statement, the burden of proof would seem to fall upon your shoulders.

It is a burden I am glad to bear. Even if God does exist, what is God without man?

True. And what is man without God? Or atleast the concept of a higher power? I also carry a similar burden, I can't prove or disprove God's existence, and I don't exactly believe in him, mostly due to this fact, as well as other reasons.

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God/a god as defined by its name is an omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient being. Until humans achieve those three things, we can never be as powerful as God/a god.
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To the atheists, he probably said god to avoid a whole paragraph about what exactly man should be more powerful than. Just assume god is everything that humans can't control right now.

IMO no. If we cure all disease, we'll overpopulate and die. If we find a way to live in the moon or Venus, eventually the Sun will blow up and we'll die. Maybe we'll find a way to get out of the solar system by then, but I don't think humanity is smart enough to survive more than about 200 more years.

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#26 manningbowl135
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[QUOTE="danpez8900"]

is yoda brainer than god?

worthyofnote

I don't believe in Yoda, but I can prove he doesn't exist in real life. I don't exactly believe in God, however I can't disprove his existence.Only as a fictitious character does Yoda exist. As for God, as I said before, it seems his/her existence can't be proven or disproven. So I have no real answer for your question.

But that's the problem with it though. I can say that an invisible elephant with wings walk around all of us. Can you prove or disprove it? No. That doesn't mean it exists. I know some people believe God exists. But that's faith. Faith should never be mixed with facts. If you can't prove God exists, you can't say that as a fact. Believe it, have faith in it. But faith = fact.

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[QUOTE="worthyofnote"][QUOTE="danpez8900"]

is yoda brainer than god?

manningbowl135

I don't believe in Yoda, but I can prove he doesn't exist in real life. I don't exactly believe in God, however I can't disprove his existence.Only as a fictitious character does Yoda exist. As for God, as I said before, it seems his/her existence can't be proven or disproven. So I have no real answer for your question.

But that's the problem with it though. I can say that an invisible elephant with wings walk around all of us. Can you prove or disprove it? No. That doesn't mean it exists. I know some people believe God exists. But that's faith. Faith should never be mixed with facts. If you can't prove God exists, you can't say that as a fact. Believe it, have faith in it. But faith = fact.

Well if it's invisible then no, not really.

As for faith and fact, I never said that because I can't prove that God exists or does not exist actually means whether or not he/she does or does not exist. I did not state my own personal beliefs as a fact, because the only fact about personal beliefs are that they are opinions. God may exist, but I don't believe in him, not solely for the argument over God's existence, but for other reasons which would spark a debate, completely off topic from the OP's intentions. And those very reasons could be found stated by others in the countless topics debating religion on this board.

I have faith, but in myself. I believe in karma and the philosophies of Buddhism. I don't knock others for their personal beliefs. Because when it all comes down to it, faith in whatever religion or diety gives a person purpose. It defines a character for them, and gives them convictions.

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#28 rubenbos007
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I can't see why its hard to get more power then something that doesn't exist?
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#29 markop2003
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Weather can in theory already be controlled butwould bestupidly expensive. There's also a good chance that all diseases can be cured as long as new bases for diseases are non-existent eg new elements.
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#30 St_Stu
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NO GODS NO KINGS ONLY MAN... u get a cookie if u could tell me where thats from.
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#31 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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No.
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#32 james28893
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What God is there to be more powerful than?
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#33 1ND1FF3R3NT
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What God is there to be more powerful than?james28893

What God isn't there to be more powerful than?

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#34 Galzakian
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Don't think so. The idea that man could ever become more powerful than faith and religion is crazy imo.

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#35 GamerPro1984
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I only think so because we have the power to create and destroy pretty much anything on the planet. Evil men want to be "god"
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#38 james28893
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Well I suppose whether you believe in the existence of God comes down to this:

i. You believe that something infinite came out of nothing

ii. You believe that something infinite with infinite power and knowledge came out of nothing and created something infinite

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#40 Snaptrap
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Unlikely. God would see this before it happens, and simply wipe man out. God will always be. Besides, I wouldn't want to see what man would do with that kind of power.

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#41 GamerPro1984
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Its like outer-space, we can never know all the answers. There are too many religions with many different ideas of god that its puzzling itself. I think its safe to assume that any form of god is infite power, create anything anytime, I dont think humans will be that powerful. On earth man does have god like powers like DNA and Gene alterations , Cloning, Nuclear weapons and energy. If we leave Earth we become so much weaker. We cant breathe in space, we lose bone mass , and who knows what kind of wierd radiation can kill us off if we venture to the wrong place. Looking at maps of the universe from Nasa , or even "the sky" on google earth really tests my "want to believe" in a god in any form. There are too many possiblities , so many stars and planets.. :-/ Is there a god for every planet? Earth islike a single cell compared to all the cells in all 6 billion some poeple on earth.
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#42 danpez8900
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Well the Beatles were more populer than jesus .

lol

But if god is so powerful why did he invent cancer or even man , which he should ave known is too smart for itself?

a doctor has done more for u than god has!

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#43 Planeforger
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With sufficient technology (quantum physics, nanotechnology and beyond), we'll probably become god-like. We can't become 'more powerful' than gods, since gods are allegedly omnipotent.
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#44 havik0666
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No way!God create every thing when I did the "Big Bang" in the beginning of the world.
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#45 FlaminDeath
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If you belive that god is all powerful then how do you get stronger than that?

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#46 firulai
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imposible that man is more powerfull than god. why? simple because humas cant be more powerfull than a being that dont exist
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#47 Brainkiller05
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imposible that man is more powerfull than god. why? simple because humas cant be more powerfull than a being that dont existfirulai

Santa doesn't exist, therefore i am more powerful than him.

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#48 Omni-Slash
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God may be Omnipotent.....but truth be told....he's a complete pansey on the flatbench.....225...max......
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i doubt it

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#50 GettingTired
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Yes. Once my dungeon master reaches Level 70 I will be considered a god amongst the human people. They will bow.