No, because then, by that very logic, someone will have to take advantage of you to get what they want; which may result in you not getting what you wanted to get.
[QUOTE="harashawn"] Nope. If you try to take advantage of me, I won't give you what you want. StripTheSoul
But how would you know what we want?
I can usually tell what people are trying to get from me. If someone just wants to be my friend, that's fine. But I often know when someone has an ulterior motive.
This is what it takes to get to the top. Winners seize opportunities, sometimes through inappropriate means; losers are too busy being caught up with ethics.
Not really. If you step on people on the way up, nobody's going to catch you when you inevitably fall. There's a difference between strategy to get what you want and just using people.
This is what it takes to get to the top. Winners seize opportunities, sometimes through inappropriate means; losers are too busy being caught up with ethics.
one_plum
pretty much this. you have to forget all about being nice and charitable and put your ambitions ahead of everything (and everyone.)
Not really. If you step on people on the way up, nobody's going to catch you when you inevitably fall. There's a difference between strategy to get what you want and just using people.XilePrincess
i'll have my family and friends i never took advantage of to catch me.
[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]Not really. If you step on people on the way up, nobody's going to catch you when you inevitably fall. There's a difference between strategy to get what you want and just using people.positivebalance
i'll have my family and friends i never took advantage of to catch me.
As quickly as you say that youll be in a position where you have to. Do and live your life they way you like.
[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]Not really. If you step on people on the way up, nobody's going to catch you when you inevitably fall. There's a difference between strategy to get what you want and just using people.positivebalance
i'll have my family and friends i never took advantage of to catch me.
....are you serious? so if they're not your family or friends, they mean nothing to you, so you think that justifies using them?
sometimes in life, we just need to take advantage of people to get what we want.
positivebalance
Disagree, although it may get you a position of CEO, I'd rather have a modest paying job and know that I can sleep well in bed than worry that someone might have a grudge. I do believe in forming connections, but not in the way of stepping over people to get to the end. You never know when you might need that connection that you have burnt off getting to that promotion.
[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]Not really. If you step on people on the way up, nobody's going to catch you when you inevitably fall. There's a difference between strategy to get what you want and just using people.XilePrincess
i'll have my family and friends i never took advantage of to catch me.
....are you serious? so if they're not your family or friends, they mean nothing to you, so you think that justifies using them?
Notice he qualified his original post with the word "sometimes." He's not talking about being a complete douchebag and taking outright advantage of anybody and everybody you come into contact with. He's saying that there are instances in life where you have to be the aggressor and do what's in your best interest, even if it's at the expense of somebody else. That's absolutely true.
He's saying that there are instances in life where you have to be the aggressor and do what's in your best interest, even if it's at the expense of somebody else. That's absolutely true.
Sometimes it is necessary. But I don't agree in doing it. This is the kind of attitude that leads to murder, war, and suffering. If it weren't for people like this, we wouldn't have a top and a bottom. We'd eventually find a way to grow past that. People could see each other on an equal level. Harming someone else just to satisfy a mere want isn't justified. A want isn't important. If you can't achieve it without harming someone else, don't bother.
I'd say it's more about sucking up than taking advantage of others per se (if you're not aiming for CEO). Sucking up is pretty hard for me to do, let alone take advantage of others.
sometimes in life, we just need to take advantage of people to get what we want.
positivebalance
No, I don't agree at all with your philosophy. If you are a person like that, you deserve to die. Taking advantage of another is the weakest and most cowardly thing to do. The world will be better to live in if such people were eradicated...
sometimes in life, we just need to take advantage of people to get what we want.
Mr_Leonis
Horrible philosophy. Extremely evil but its the truest philosophy I've ever heard. 95% of the people i've met act this way.
Gotta agree with this. My own life was nearly ruined because of the way in which people used to take advantage of my father... I tell you, those people who exploit others are never gonna have a moment of peace. They'll never be satisfied with what they have. And when they die, they'll have nothing left except what Trent Reznor said in his song "Hurt" : "My empire of dirt."
I've yet to see a selfish man live with utmost satisfaction.
a lion doesn't roar while it hunts.
positivebalance
It's usually a lioness who hunts. The lion does the taking away...
Although I can respect people with your attitude, personally I don't want to get to the top if it means taking advantage of other people. "Getting to the top" isn't something I personally value.
That's the thing, everybody is saying that this is inappropriate, but most of us are still promoting a society that encourages such behaviour.
one_plum
I think the people who have posted in this thread against this philosophy has had experience of being taken advantage of. Hence, why we all disagree with OP's statements.
That's the thing, everybody is saying that this is inappropriate, but most of us are still promoting a society that encourages such behaviour.
fend_oblivion
I think the people who have posted in this thread against this philosophy has had experience of being taken advantage of. Hence, why we all disagree with OP's statements.
Don't get me wrong, I too am opposed at such behaviour because I know very well how it's like to be on the receiving end, but I'm just cyncially pointing out that this is how society functions.
That's the thing, everybody is saying that this is inappropriate, but most of us are still promoting a society that encourages such behaviour.
one_plum
I think the people who have posted in this thread against this philosophy has had experience of being taken advantage of. Hence, why we all disagree with OP's statements.
Don't get me wrong, I too am opposed at such behaviour because I know very well how it's like to be on the receiving end, but I'm just cyncially pointing out that this is how society functions.
You are correct. Everything from getting a job to being accepted by society is usually done like this. The world's laws...one's we can't change.
I believe everything needed/wanted should be gained through some sort of mutually beneficial exchange.
I definately do not believe in taking advantage of people.
It doesnt have to be equal value, either. For example, you get a gift, you send a thank you card. Your parents give you money for college, you pay them back by getting good grades and, with a good job, pay them back monetarily
I largely agree, though I would add it's best not to actively seek ways of ruining a person's day/week/month/life. Take advantage of the moments life gives you. It's worked out fantastically for me so far.
"Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of any other, always at the same time as an end and never merely as a means to an end."
Anyway, it doesn't matter what any of you say, because I would bet a million buck that none of you ever becomes a CEO of a major corporation or ever gets that far "ahead" in life.
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