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Nicely done.Marriage is between a man and a woman. IDK why people think it's some form of clay than can be molded and made up as we go along. I agree, once alot of economical benefits were attatched to marriage it becomes less about what it is and more about what you get. That's why they should get their own thing, it's not demeaning them, it can be similar. People act like different = less, which it isn't. But then they complain it's too much work, when they feel that all of the civil rights stuff they do is less work. It's like trying to fit a hobbit door into a rectangular doorway, it's not meant to have a hobbit door, it was made for a rectangular door. It's not right to change something because people don't meet the requirements. And don't say love, love is not based around marriage, hence why two people who are not in love can get married, like how it was way back in the day.
Hatiko
If God said rape, murder and child molestation were things we should do in order to get into Heaven, you wouldn't have any problems with it? Morality does not come from God's authority... if it did, we could be commanded to do anything, even if ethically wrong.God said it's wrong so it's wrong. It's unatural and against the commandments.
ff-leader
It does existff-leader
Care to point them out?
But, hey. I'd rather be safe than sorry.XxxExtremeNJBXx
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[QUOTE="knightseason"]
If Hell does exist and I get sent there because of what I believe in is what some almighty being says is wrong then so be it, I'd prefer to be happy with my life and think for myself then have people tell me what to do and think so I can get on this beings good side so I can go to Heaven.
Uh..you do think for yourself. You make your own choices etc.Yes, but christians (for example) have to follow rules (the 10 commandments) so that they can get in Gods favor (correct me if I'm wrong). Therefore you are being told what to do and how to live your life.
depends on what branch of christianity you are a part of, i was raised catholic, so no matter what i do i can get into heaven as long as i can repent before i die.Why should marige just be between a man and a woman?Marriage is between a man and a woman. IDK why people think it's some form of clay than can be molded and made up as we go along. I agree, once alot of economical benefits were attatched to marriage it becomes less about what it is and more about what you get. That's why they should get their own thing, it's not demeaning them, it can be similar. People act like different = less, which it isn't. But then they complain it's too much work, when they feel that all of the civil rights stuff they do is less work. It's like trying to fit a hobbit door into a rectangular doorway, it's not meant to have a hobbit door, it was made for a rectangular door. It's not right to change something because people don't meet the requirements. And don't say love, love is not based around marriage, hence why two people who are not in love can get married, like how it was way back in the day.
Hatiko
[QUOTE="Hatiko"]Why should marige just be between a man and a woman?Because it "works" that way ;)Marriage is between a man and a woman. IDK why people think it's some form of clay than can be molded and made up as we go along. I agree, once alot of economical benefits were attatched to marriage it becomes less about what it is and more about what you get. That's why they should get their own thing, it's not demeaning them, it can be similar. People act like different = less, which it isn't. But then they complain it's too much work, when they feel that all of the civil rights stuff they do is less work. It's like trying to fit a hobbit door into a rectangular doorway, it's not meant to have a hobbit door, it was made for a rectangular door. It's not right to change something because people don't meet the requirements. And don't say love, love is not based around marriage, hence why two people who are not in love can get married, like how it was way back in the day.
toast_burner
[QUOTE="knightseason"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]
Uh..you do think for yourself. You make your own choices etc.
surrealnumber5
Yes, but christians (for example) have to follow rules (the 10 commandments) so that they can get in Gods favor (correct me if I'm wrong). Therefore you are being told what to do and how to live your life.
depends on what branch of christianity you are a part of, i was raised catholic, so no matter what i do i can get into heaven as long as i can repent before i die.That just sounds like an easy way out :lol:
Uh..you do think for yourself. You make your own choices etc.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]
[QUOTE="knightseason"]
If Hell does exist and I get sent there because of what I believe in is what some almighty being says is wrong then so be it, I'd prefer to be happy with my life and think for myself then have people tell me what to do and think so I can get on this beings good side so I can go to Heaven.
knightseason
Yes, but christians (for example) have to follow rules (the 10 commandments) so that they can get in Gods favor (correct me if I'm wrong). Therefore you are being told what to do and how to live your life.
Basically the rules for Christians are as follows...Love God. Love your neighbor. What's wrong with treating people decently? Nonetheless...it's still up to the individual to choose how to live as it is for everyone else in existence.Why should marige just be between a man and a woman?Because it "works" that way ;) It "works" between two men and two women as well. :|[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="Hatiko"]
Marriage is between a man and a woman. IDK why people think it's some form of clay than can be molded and made up as we go along. I agree, once alot of economical benefits were attatched to marriage it becomes less about what it is and more about what you get. That's why they should get their own thing, it's not demeaning them, it can be similar. People act like different = less, which it isn't. But then they complain it's too much work, when they feel that all of the civil rights stuff they do is less work. It's like trying to fit a hobbit door into a rectangular doorway, it's not meant to have a hobbit door, it was made for a rectangular door. It's not right to change something because people don't meet the requirements. And don't say love, love is not based around marriage, hence why two people who are not in love can get married, like how it was way back in the day.
XxxExtremeNJBXx
Why should marige just be between a man and a woman?Because it "works" that way ;) why? Marrige isnt a religious thing, people get divorced all the time. so there aren't any good arguments on why gays can't be married.[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="Hatiko"]
Marriage is between a man and a woman. IDK why people think it's some form of clay than can be molded and made up as we go along. I agree, once alot of economical benefits were attatched to marriage it becomes less about what it is and more about what you get. That's why they should get their own thing, it's not demeaning them, it can be similar. People act like different = less, which it isn't. But then they complain it's too much work, when they feel that all of the civil rights stuff they do is less work. It's like trying to fit a hobbit door into a rectangular doorway, it's not meant to have a hobbit door, it was made for a rectangular door. It's not right to change something because people don't meet the requirements. And don't say love, love is not based around marriage, hence why two people who are not in love can get married, like how it was way back in the day.
XxxExtremeNJBXx
[QUOTE="kamikaze_pigmy"][QUOTE="XxxExtremeNJBXx"] It's just mainly what "I believe" is right. I have my agreements and disagreements with the Bible at times, oddly enough.XxxExtremeNJBXxDisregarding the fact that that didn't actually answer the question, that actually contradicts what you said; "better safe than sorry" would imply that you follow all the the teachings of the bible, so that you don't regret not following some of it's teachings and going to hell. I'd rather not go into detail, especially in a public forum. Can you respect that ? Honestly, not really, since you said something and now seem to be making special pleading to avoid explaining it
[QUOTE="XxxExtremeNJBXx"]Because it "works" that way ;) It "works" between two men and two women as well. :|It does ? I see absolutely nothing coming-out of it, other than pleasure. Reproduction says it all.[QUOTE="toast_burner"]Why should marige just be between a man and a woman?Theokhoth
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Uh..you do think for yourself. You make your own choices etc.
Yes, but christians (for example) have to follow rules (the 10 commandments) so that they can get in Gods favor (correct me if I'm wrong). Therefore you are being told what to do and how to live your life.
depends on what branch of christianity you are a part of, i was raised catholic, so no matter what i do i can get into heaven as long as i can repent before i die. Er that's not quite it.[QUOTE="Hatiko"] People act like different = less, which it isn't.TheokhothYes it is. It's called "segregation." It's a nice way of saying "You're not good enough for what we have, so get your own thing."
No, a homosexual can get married to a woman, but there has to be something else that they can do that is just for them. And I'm not saying that they aren't good enough, I'm saying the don't meet the requirements. If a guy was too tall to go on a ride ad Disney World and they had to make a ride that was the xact same but was better suited for tall people, is that segregation too?
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="XxxExtremeNJBXx"]Because it "works" that way ;)It "works" between two men and two women as well. :|It does ? I see absolutely nothing coming-out of it, other than pleasure. Reproduction says it all. So if a hetero couple doesn't want kids, they can't get married?XxxExtremeNJBXx
Yes it is. It's called "segregation." It's a nice way of saying "You're not good enough for what we have, so get your own thing."[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Hatiko"] People act like different = less, which it isn't.Hatiko
No, a homosexual can get married to a woman, but there has to be something else that they can do that is just for them. And I'm not saying that they aren't good enough, I'm saying the don't meet the requirements. If a guy was too tall to go on a ride ad Disney World and they had to make a ride that was the xact same but was better suited for tall people, is that segregation too?
Thats a health risk. its got nothing to do with human rights. and why would a homosexual marry a woman?Yes it is. It's called "segregation." It's a nice way of saying "You're not good enough for what we have, so get your own thing."[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Hatiko"] People act like different = less, which it isn't.Hatiko
No, a homosexual can get married to a woman, but there has to be something else that they can do that is just for them. And I'm not saying that they aren't good enough, I'm saying the don't meet the requirements. If a guy was too tall to go on a ride ad Disney World and they had to make a ride that was the xact same but was better suited for tall people, is that segregation too?
A homosexual can get married to a woman, but why would they want to? They don't love women. Heterosexuals can marry who they love; gays can't. That is segregation. A lol @ comparing laws to Disney world rides.[QUOTE="Hatiko"]Why should marige just be between a man and a woman?Marriage is between a man and a woman. IDK why people think it's some form of clay than can be molded and made up as we go along. I agree, once alot of economical benefits were attatched to marriage it becomes less about what it is and more about what you get. That's why they should get their own thing, it's not demeaning them, it can be similar. People act like different = less, which it isn't. But then they complain it's too much work, when they feel that all of the civil rights stuff they do is less work. It's like trying to fit a hobbit door into a rectangular doorway, it's not meant to have a hobbit door, it was made for a rectangular door. It's not right to change something because people don't meet the requirements. And don't say love, love is not based around marriage, hence why two people who are not in love can get married, like how it was way back in the day.
toast_burner
Becuase that's what it is.
Yes it is. It's called "segregation." It's a nice way of saying "You're not good enough for what we have, so get your own thing."[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Hatiko"] People act like different = less, which it isn't.Hatiko
No, a homosexual can get married to a woman, but there has to be something else that they can do that is just for them. And I'm not saying that they aren't good enough, I'm saying the don't meet the requirements. If a guy was too tall to go on a ride ad Disney World and they had to make a ride that was the xact same but was better suited for tall people, is that segregation too?
Why does it make a difference? If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.. ITS A DUCK.. Its pointless to call it any other thing but this.. Especially when marriage is more or less secular now.. A wife does not have specific roles or a husband does not have specific roles forced on by the culture..
Why should marige just be between a man and a woman?[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="Hatiko"]
Marriage is between a man and a woman. IDK why people think it's some form of clay than can be molded and made up as we go along. I agree, once alot of economical benefits were attatched to marriage it becomes less about what it is and more about what you get. That's why they should get their own thing, it's not demeaning them, it can be similar. People act like different = less, which it isn't. But then they complain it's too much work, when they feel that all of the civil rights stuff they do is less work. It's like trying to fit a hobbit door into a rectangular doorway, it's not meant to have a hobbit door, it was made for a rectangular door. It's not right to change something because people don't meet the requirements. And don't say love, love is not based around marriage, hence why two people who are not in love can get married, like how it was way back in the day.
Hatiko
Becuase that's what it is.
"It's that way because it's that way!" :lol:[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="knightseason"]
Yes, but christians (for example) have to follow rules (the 10 commandments) so that they can get in Gods favor (correct me if I'm wrong). Therefore you are being told what to do and how to live your life.
depends on what branch of christianity you are a part of, i was raised catholic, so no matter what i do i can get into heaven as long as i can repent before i die.That just sounds like an easy way out :lol:
dont you mean easy way in?Why should marige just be between a man and a woman?[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="Hatiko"]
Marriage is between a man and a woman. IDK why people think it's some form of clay than can be molded and made up as we go along. I agree, once alot of economical benefits were attatched to marriage it becomes less about what it is and more about what you get. That's why they should get their own thing, it's not demeaning them, it can be similar. People act like different = less, which it isn't. But then they complain it's too much work, when they feel that all of the civil rights stuff they do is less work. It's like trying to fit a hobbit door into a rectangular doorway, it's not meant to have a hobbit door, it was made for a rectangular door. It's not right to change something because people don't meet the requirements. And don't say love, love is not based around marriage, hence why two people who are not in love can get married, like how it was way back in the day.
Hatiko
Becuase that's what it is.
definitions and ideals change, I see no reason why this shouldn't either.. Marriage after all in the past changed by a huge amount when divorce was made acceptable by the church.
My God tells me that he thinks same sex marriages are even more fabulous than a unicorn shooting rainbows from it's horn.
I can't argue with that, so I'm all for them.
Why should marige just be between a man and a woman?[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="Hatiko"]
Marriage is between a man and a woman. IDK why people think it's some form of clay than can be molded and made up as we go along. I agree, once alot of economical benefits were attatched to marriage it becomes less about what it is and more about what you get. That's why they should get their own thing, it's not demeaning them, it can be similar. People act like different = less, which it isn't. But then they complain it's too much work, when they feel that all of the civil rights stuff they do is less work. It's like trying to fit a hobbit door into a rectangular doorway, it's not meant to have a hobbit door, it was made for a rectangular door. It's not right to change something because people don't meet the requirements. And don't say love, love is not based around marriage, hence why two people who are not in love can get married, like how it was way back in the day.
Hatiko
Becuase that's what it is.
Marrige is a legal contract declaring two people as a couple. why does it matter if those people are of the same sex?[QUOTE="Hatiko"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]Why should marige just be between a man and a woman?toast_burner
Becuase that's what it is.
Marrige is a legal contract declaring two people as a couple. why does it matter if those people are of the same sex? Teh reproduction!!1[QUOTE="knightseason"]dont you mean easy way in?That just sounds like an easy way out :lol:
surrealnumber5
Yeah that too :lol:
[QUOTE="Hatiko"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Yes it is. It's called "segregation." It's a nice way of saying "You're not good enough for what we have, so get your own thing."Theokhoth
No, a homosexual can get married to a woman, but there has to be something else that they can do that is just for them. And I'm not saying that they aren't good enough, I'm saying the don't meet the requirements. If a guy was too tall to go on a ride ad Disney World and they had to make a ride that was the xact same but was better suited for tall people, is that segregation too?
A homosexual can get married to a woman, but why would they want to? They don't love women. Heterosexuals can marry who they love; gays can't. That is segregation. A lol @ comparing laws to Disney world rides.I think you are confusing love and attraction. You can love someone without physical attraction.It does ? I see absolutely nothing coming-out of it, other than pleasure. Reproduction says it all. So if a hetero couple doesn't want kids, they can't get married?I never said that. I just said I don't believe in same-sex marriage - Bottom line. You have your opinion and I have mine.[QUOTE="XxxExtremeNJBXx"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] It "works" between two men and two women as well. :|Theokhoth
My God tells me that he thinks same sex marriages are even more fabulous than a unicorn shooting rainbows from it's horn.
I can't argue with that, so I'm all for them.
DaBlastaMasta
Do you need to rub the horn to get rainbows to come out? :P
So if a hetero couple doesn't want kids, they can't get married?I never said that. I just said I don't believe in same-sex marriage - Bottom line. You have your opinion and I have mine. even though your opinion involves stripping rights away from others...[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Hatiko"]It does ? I see absolutely nothing coming-out of it, other than pleasure. Reproduction says it all.Hatiko
[QUOTE="Hatiko"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Yes it is. It's called "segregation." It's a nice way of saying "You're not good enough for what we have, so get your own thing."Theokhoth
No, a homosexual can get married to a woman, but there has to be something else that they can do that is just for them. And I'm not saying that they aren't good enough, I'm saying the don't meet the requirements. If a guy was too tall to go on a ride ad Disney World and they had to make a ride that was the xact same but was better suited for tall people, is that segregation too?
A homosexual can get married to a woman, but why would they want to? They don't love women. Heterosexuals can marry who they love; gays can't. That is segregation. A lol @ comparing laws to Disney world rides.I thought it was about sexual orientation, when did sex=love? I don't have to have sex with my family to show that I love them.
Doesn't exist ? How would you know it "doesn't exist" ?[QUOTE="XxxExtremeNJBXx"]
[QUOTE="knightseason"]
So when I die I'm going to a place that doesn't exist because I don't care if 2 people in love get married? Cool :D
knightseason
How do you know it does?
THERE AND BACK, B****!! :P
[spoiler] just kidding [/spoiler]
[QUOTE="Hatiko"]I never said that. I just said I don't believe in same-sex marriage - Bottom line. You have your opinion and I have mine. even though your opinion involves stripping rights away from others...[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] So if a hetero couple doesn't want kids, they can't get married?
toast_burner
Even though both quotes that you quoted me on aren't even mine.
A homosexual can get married to a woman, but why would they want to? They don't love women. Heterosexuals can marry who they love; gays can't. That is segregation. A lol @ comparing laws to Disney world rides.[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Hatiko"]
No, a homosexual can get married to a woman, but there has to be something else that they can do that is just for them. And I'm not saying that they aren't good enough, I'm saying the don't meet the requirements. If a guy was too tall to go on a ride ad Disney World and they had to make a ride that was the xact same but was better suited for tall people, is that segregation too?
Hatiko
I thought it was about sexual orientation, when did sex=love? I don't have to have sex with my family to show that I love them.
The love between a married couple is different to the love you feel towards your parents.I love cheese but im not going to marry it
[QUOTE="Hatiko"]I never said that. I just said I don't believe in same-sex marriage - Bottom line. You have your opinion and I have mine. even though your opinion involves stripping rights away from others...It may involve that, but it's not doing so.[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] So if a hetero couple doesn't want kids, they can't get married?
toast_burner
even though your opinion involves stripping rights away from others...[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="Hatiko"]I never said that. I just said I don't believe in same-sex marriage - Bottom line. You have your opinion and I have mine.Hatiko
Even though both quotes that you quoted me on aren't even mine.
glitchspot glitches again.[QUOTE="Hatiko"]
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] A homosexual can get married to a woman, but why would they want to? They don't love women. Heterosexuals can marry who they love; gays can't. That is segregation. A lol @ comparing laws to Disney world rides.toast_burner
I thought it was about sexual orientation, when did sex=love? I don't have to have sex with my family to show that I love them.
The love between a married couple is different to the love you feel towards your parents.I love cheese but im not going to marry it
I know what you're saying, but love doesn't = sex. You can have one without the other, they aren't a REQUIRED package, although I still don't see how a man can love another man, if homosexuality is all about sexual orientation how is the love part even there? Unless they're lying.
It doesnt affect anyone other then homosexuals. I have no idea why anyone is against it.It doesn't involve me in the slightest. Why should I disagree?
Reptylus
The love between a married couple is different to the love you feel towards your parents.[QUOTE="toast_burner"]
[QUOTE="Hatiko"]
I thought it was about sexual orientation, when did sex=love? I don't have to have sex with my family to show that I love them.
Hatiko
I love cheese but im not going to marry it
I know what you're saying, but love doesn't = sex. You can have one without the other, they aren't a REQUIRED package, although I still don't see how a man can love another man, if homosexuality is all about sexual orientation how is the love part even there? Unless they're lying.
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