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#101 CBR600-RR
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@no_more_fayth - The Japanese had no satellites at this time... Now I'm not saying that the Moon landing is a conspiracy, I don't give a damn. Just. Don't believe everything the medias tell you.Crimsader

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aXuQ9Dg2gE

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#102 WhiteKnight77
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All I get from that clip is:| .

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#103 CBR600-RR
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All I get from that clip is:| .

WhiteKnight77

Brian Cox is awesome, works on the Hadron Collider and is from my city. He's the new Carl Sagan.

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#104 BiancaDK
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I dont really know. I watched Zeitgeist twice, I dont know what to make of it.

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#105 no_more_fayth
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I dont really know. I watched Zeitgeist twice, I dont know what to make of it.

BiancaDK

You're supposed to watch it while listening to the Smashing Pumpkins album of the same name.

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#106 ff-leader
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Pokemon is the devil:lol:

Here is all the info for all you newcomers -

Here is a summary-

Pokemon was an example where illuminati interests have been put in the game such as when a Team galatic call for a new world order-

In Diamond and Pearl, Team Galactic state their intention to create a new world order

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_Galactic#Team_Galactic

The new world order is a one world government, which is mean't to be ruled by the antichrist, It is the goal of the Illuminati

here is rulers of the earth calling for a new world order-

George bush senior-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc7i0wCFf8g

Gordan brown-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv5cqh26CC0&feature=related

Obama-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CV8Xt2VWvc

Onevery importantthing which shows the New world order is part of their agenda is on the Dollar bill

dollar_bill_showing_New_World_Order by POMOWORLD.COM.

Now here is an official website of the illuminati, they have a pyramid with an eye in it-

OTO Lamen

http://oto-usa.org/index.html

Here is a scripture from their holy book

III:48Now this mystery of the letters is done, and I want to go on to the holier place.

III:49I am in a secret fourfold word, the blasphemy against all gods of men.

III:50Curse them! Curse them! Curse them!

III:51With my Hawk's head I peck at the eyes of Jesus as he hangs upon the cross.

III:52I flap my wings in the face of Mohammed & blind him.

III:53With my claws I tear out the flesh of the Indian and the Buddhist, Mongol and Din.

III:54Bahlasti! Ompehda! I spit on your crapulous creeds.

These guys are waiting for their antichrist to rule us all

Here are their goals-

The message includes references to certain themes such as "maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature", "guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity", "prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite", "Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts." "Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court" and others, concluding with "be not a cancer on the earth - leave room for nature - leave room for nature

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

opponents have labeled them as the "Ten Commandments of the Antichrist

Secret society proven and well known satanic-

Skull and Bones (sect of illuminati)!! which the president went too-

The first extended description of Skull and Bones, published in 1871 by Lyman Bagg in his book Four Years at Yale, noted that "the mystery now attending its existence forms the one great enigma which college gossip never tires of discussing." Brooks Mather Kelley attributed the secrecy of Yale senior societies to the fact that under****en members of freshman, sophomore, and junior ****societies remained on campus following their membership, while seniors naturally left.[20]

The emblem of Skull and Bones is a skull with crossed bones, over the number "322". One legend is that 322 stands for "founded in '32, 2nd corps", referring to a first Corps in an unknown German university.[21] Others suggest that 322 refers to the death of Demosthenes and that documents in the society hall have purportedly been found dated to "Anno-Demostheni".[22]

During the senior year each Skull and Bones ****meets every Thursday and Sunday night.[23] The goal of the activities is to develop deep friendship and connections with your fellow members and to explore ideas that allow for personal and collective growth.

There is an ongoing rumor that there is some form whereby new members recite to the society their sexual history, and although there has been no corroboration of this by any reliable source, the rumor lives on. [24]

Members are assigned nicknames. "Long Devil" is assigned to the tallest member; "Boaz" goes to any member who is a varsity football captain. Many of the chosen names are drawn from literature ("Hamlet," "Uncle Remus"), from religion and from myth. The banker Lewis Lapham passed on his name, "Sancho Panza," to the political adviser Tex McCrary. Averell Harriman was "Thor," Henry Luce was "Baal," McGeorge Bundy was "Odin." George H. W. Bushwas "Magog" a name reserved for a member considered to have the most sexual experience. George W. Bush, unable to decide, was temporarily called "Temprary," and the name was never changed.[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_bones

The initiation ceremony, held in April, involves as many alumni, or "patriarchs," as possible, one of whom in each instance serves as the supervisor, known as Uncle Toby. The Inner Temple is cleared of furniture except for two chairs and a table, and Bonesmen past and present assemble: Uncle Toby in a robe; the shortest senior, or "Little Devil," in a satanic costume; a Bonesman with a deep voice in a Don Quixote costume; one in papal vestments; another dressed as Elihu Yale; four of the brawniest in the role of "shakers"; and a crew of extras wearing skeleton costumes and carrying noisemakers. According to the initiation script, Uncle Toby "sounds like the only sane person in the room."

As an initiate enters the room, patriarchs standing outside the Inner Temple shout, "Who is it?" The shakers bellow the initiate's name, which the patriarchs echo. The shakers push the initiate toward the table, where the secrecy oath has been placed, and he is enjoined to "Read! Read! Read!" The shakers then half-carry the initiate to a picture of Eulogia, and the Bonesmen shriek, "Eulogia! Eulogia! Eulogia!" After another trip to the oath, the shakers fire the initiate toward a picture of a woman that Bonesmen call Connubial Bliss.

Rituals along these lines go on for quite some time, recalling a cross between haunted-house antics and a human pinball game -- "like something from a Harry Potter novel," in the words of one Bonesman, now an engineer. It is perhaps worth noting, in light of George W.'s controversial episode at Bob Jones University and the specter of anti-Catholicism, that at one point in the proceedings every initiate kisses the slippered toe of the "Pope." At last the initiate is formally dubbed a Knight of Eulogia. Amid more raucous ritual he is cast from the room into the waiting arms of the patriarchs.

http://skullandcrossbones.org/articles/skullandbones.htm

There you go secret satanicsociety

President mentioning the secret societies-

Listen to this incredible audio recording of a speech made by JFK before the American Newspaper Publishers Association where he warns the press about the secret societies that are the real power in global affairs."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZk8ronces&feature=related

How about the world leaders doing a satanic ceremony-

a vid-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtSVBTne-KY

EVEN POKEMON SUBLIMINAL MESAGE ABOUT DEVIL-

Here is a sublimnal message in Pokemon-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQppQcM4kJc

PROOF!!

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#107 sgotskillz
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As a physics student, i'd be pretty darn stupid to believe conspiracy theories. Just take the moon hoax for instance, if just one of these claims the conspiracy theorists bring up have to be true, you would have to dismiss practically all of our fundamental understandings of physics. You can ask yourself this: How come not a single person who actually have a clue about physics supports these claims? Every damn hoax spokesman is a pseudo-professional dimwit who draws premature conclusions.

DoomZaW

Because you're a physics student...lol

You see most people have lost the ability to think for themselves via the brainwashing program from the mainstream media. A bunch of muslims hiding in a cave who train on monkey bars orchestrated the most sophisticated terror act in recent history. 'A project for the new american century' written by the neocons in 1998 outlined some of their plans for 9/11.

If you did any intense research into 9/11 you would have found how the laws of physics were defied. Experienced pilots stated it's impossible for a 757 to do a 300 degree turn at those low altitudes above the pentagon. Or the temparture at which ASTM A36 low alloy construction steel melts vs open air burning temperature of jet fuel. Or the kinematic equation of the freefall speed at which the towers fell without any resistance. One person posted the 9/11 truth movement was started from the film makers of Loose change, just goes to show how ill informed some people are. Whistleblowers have stepped forward from alphabet agencies who came clean about their involvement with 9/11 backed up with documented evidence. Don't be lazy and look for it yourself because it's more rewarding.

Belief systems will be challenged because they have been lied to all their lives.

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#108 ToastRider11
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95% of all conspiracy theories have no evidence or the lamest reasoning for them. I don't believe in any conspiracy theories. They're meant for people who cant get a real life and, or who live in a basement.

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#109 MushroomWig
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Some theories make sense, others are laughable.
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#110 Kage1
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I have some

I believe Bush & Pals had something to do with 9/11

I believe the government hides info about UFO's

I believe Tupac was murdered by the government

I believe JFK was killed by the government

I believe MLK was killed by the government

I believe I can fly.

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#111 WhiteKnight77
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[QUOTE="DoomZaW"]

As a physics student, i'd be pretty darn stupid to believe conspiracy theories. Just take the moon hoax for instance, if just one of these claims the conspiracy theorists bring up have to be true, you would have to dismiss practically all of our fundamental understandings of physics. You can ask yourself this: How come not a single person who actually have a clue about physics supports these claims? Every damn hoax spokesman is a pseudo-professional dimwit who draws premature conclusions.

sgotskillz

Because you're a physics student...lol

You see most people have lost the ability to think for themselves via the brainwashing program from the mainstream media. A bunch of muslims hiding in a cave who train on monkey bars orchestrated the most sophisticated terror act in recent history. 'A project for the new american century' written by the neocons in 1998 outlined some of their plans for 9/11.

If you did any intense research into 9/11 you would have found how the laws of physics were defied. Experienced pilots stated it's impossible for a 757 to do a 300 degree turn at those low altitudes above the pentagon. Or the temparture at which ASTM A36 low alloy construction steel melts vs open air burning temperature of jet fuel. Or the kinematic equation of the freefall speed at which the towers fell without any resistance. One person posted the 9/11 truth movement was started from the film makers of Loose change, just goes to show how ill informed some people are. Whistleblowers have stepped forward from alphabet agencies who came clean about their involvement with 9/11 backed up with documented evidence. Don't be lazy and look for it yourself because it's more rewarding.

Belief systems will be challenged because they have been lied to all their lives.

Why should someone have to find and produce the evidence that you espouse is there? If you make a claim, it is up to you to provide said evidence of it, not the other way around. Steel does not have to melt in order for it to loose strength and that has been shown time and again.

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#112 GrindingAxe
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Yes...I believe in some. No one can convince me that the official JFK assassination story is true. Plus, more questions about 9/11 keep coming with little answers.
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#113 krazykillaz
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Of course not. The reptilians spread these wild conspiracy theories to discredit the people who uncover the truth about the New World Order.
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#114 metallica_fan42
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I don't believe them, but I still find them interesting. Plus it is always fun to think about the what if?
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#115 ProjectTrinity
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Not. Not since my fling with an Asian girl ended with me having the means and the tools to destroy her life and apparently have so much charisma, that I got everyone around her to turn on her and add to the hurt. While sleeping. No. I don't believe in 99% of them.
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#116 PannicAtack
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*snip*

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Ah yes, I remember that thread.
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#117 PannicAtack
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Or the temparture at which ASTM A36 low alloy construction steel melts vs open air burning temperature of jet fuel. Or the kinematic equation of the freefall speed at which the towers fell without any resistance.

sgotskillz

Still repeating lies?

It baffles me. Those two points in particular have been pointed out to you more times than I can count, and yet you still regurgitate them time and time again. Why? Why is it you completely ignore, without any sort of justification, the facts which refute your claims?

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#118 Head_of_games
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Hold on, where the hell is your sig from? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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#119 coolbeans90
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Or the temparture at which ASTM A36 low alloy construction steel melts vs open air burning temperature of jet fuel. Or the kinematic equation of the freefall speed at which the towers fell without any resistance.

sgotskillz

How is the melting point of steel relevant here?

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#120 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Head_of_games
Hold on, where the hell is your sig from? :lol: :lol: :lol:

A thread titled something along the lines of "MGS is better than Zelda: PROOF INSIDE." I can't seem to find it.
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#121 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="sgotskillz"]Or the temparture at which ASTM A36 low alloy construction steel melts vs open air burning temperature of jet fuel. Or the kinematic equation of the freefall speed at which the towers fell without any resistance.

coolbeans90

How is the melting point of steel relevant here?

Also, "kinematic equation of the freefall speed?"

For one thing, freefall isn't a speed.

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#122 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="sgotskillz"]Or the temparture at which ASTM A36 low alloy construction steel melts vs open air burning temperature of jet fuel. Or the kinematic equation of the freefall speed at which the towers fell without any resistance.

PannicAtack

How is the melting point of steel relevant here?

Also, "kinematic equation of the freefall speed?"

For one thing, freefall isn't a speed.

LMAO, nice catch.

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#123 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

How is the melting point of steel relevant here?

coolbeans90

Also, "kinematic equation of the freefall speed?"

For one thing, freefall isn't a speed.

LMAO, nice catch.

Even more hilarious, given how he's condescending to someone who's actually studying physics.
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#124 sgotskillz
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"] Also, "kinematic equation of the freefall speed?"

For one thing, freefall isn't a speed.

PannicAtack

LMAO, nice catch.

Even more hilarious, given how he's condescending to someone who's actually studying physics.

without the dumb downed version

v = velocity (in m/s)

a = acceleration (in m/s^2); for free fall, it's 9.81 m/s^2

t = time (in s)

y = vertical displacement (in m)




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#125 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

LMAO, nice catch.

sgotskillz

Even more hilarious, given how he's condescending to someone who's actually studying physics.

without the dumb downed version

v = velocity (in m/s)

a = acceleration (in m/s^2); for free fall, it's 9.81 m/s^2

t = time (in s)

y = vertical displacement (in m)




Oh, so you *have* taken a high school physics course, I would never have guessed it, what with you getting terminology blatantly wrong. Still, I can't believe you thought you had to "dumb down" something to someone who flat-out stated he was studying the material.

Oh yeah, and the "free fall" bit in regards to the towers is still an utter lie, which has been explained to you in several other threads. You continue to ignore it, however.

Still, I suppose I should give credit where credit is due - I do believe that's the first time you've ever admitted to making a mistake.

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#126 6matt6
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[QUOTE="sgotskillz"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"] Even more hilarious, given how he's condescending to someone who's actually studying physics.PannicAtack

without the dumb downed version

v = velocity (in m/s)

a = acceleration (in m/s^2); for free fall, it's 9.81 m/s^2

t = time (in s)

y = vertical displacement (in m)




Oh, so you *have* taken a high school physics course, I would never have guessed it, what with you getting terminology blatantly wrong. Still, I can't believe you thought you had to "dumb down" something to someone who flat-out stated he was studying the material.

Oh yeah, and the "free fall" bit in regards to the towers is still an utter lie, which has been explained to you in several other threads. You continue to ignore it, however.

If people didn't ignore evidence conspiracy theories wouldn't exist.

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#127 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

LMAO, nice catch.

sgotskillz

Even more hilarious, given how he's condescending to someone who's actually studying physics.

without the dumb downed version

v = velocity (in m/s)

a = acceleration (in m/s^2); for free fall, it's 9.81 m/s^2

t = time (in s)

y = vertical displacement (in m)




How about an equation? Like d(t) = v*t + .5at^2 That would be nice. Anyone beyond middle school knows what acceleration units are. Furthermore, could you go into detail outlining why the tower could not have fallen in the matter in which it did? Furthermore, that wouldn't be enough. It's not like the building is a static object. You'll need to go beyond basic laws of motion to account for the internal factors of the structure which could significantly alter the numbers. Problem is that it's a little difficult for you to account for that from news videos. Regardless, your post is no more useful to your argument than pointing out the fact that that "the sky is blue." But if you find anything conclusive, hey, feel free to weigh in on it.

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#128 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"] Also, "kinematic equation of the freefall speed?"

For one thing, freefall isn't a speed.

PannicAtack

LMAO, nice catch.

Even more hilarious, given how he's condescending to someone who's actually studying physics.

I'm of a slightly less refined breed. Studying mechanical engineering here.

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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

LMAO, nice catch.

coolbeans90

Even more hilarious, given how he's condescending to someone who's actually studying physics.

I'm of a slightly less refined breed. Studying mechanical engineering here.

I'm not anywhere near that field - I'm a musician.
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#130 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"] Even more hilarious, given how he's condescending to someone who's actually studying physics.PannicAtack

I'm of a slightly less refined breed. Studying mechanical engineering here.

I'm not anywhere near that field - I'm a musician.

Oh, my mistake. :P Props to that though. It's one of the arts that appears to be quite difficult.

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#131 Human-after-all
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It's a psychological phenomenon. The gist of it is people want to feel like heroes, and when they get some information that makes them feel like they could be; they spread it even if they don't know the facts or it seems illogical.

Aliens don't come and implant computer chips inside of you with government permission, that is just stupid. Never heard of an alien conspiracy theories that wasn't stupid.

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#132 Leejjohno
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Not usually, but landing on the moon? I've seen that footage and have to say how anybody can sit there and say "sure this looks legit" is certainly interesting. Personally I don't care whether it happened or not tbh.

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#133 Bladecutter56
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[QUOTE="Bladecutter56"]

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

Where were you in 1993 when Bin Laden and Al Qaeda first attempted to blow up the WTC?

-Renegade

Probably playing with playdough and legos.

Did you even watch the video? They make it seem like Osama has this huge army and underground network in Afghanistan both clearly FABRICATED by the American media. I don't even know why I waste my time with you people on this site.

I don't see what you were offended by. I was playing with playdough and legos in 1993.

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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

[QUOTE="sgotskillz"]

without the dumb downed version

v = velocity (in m/s)

a = acceleration (in m/s^2); for free fall, it's 9.81 m/s^2

t = time (in s)

y = vertical displacement (in m)




6matt6

Oh, so you *have* taken a high school physics course, I would never have guessed it, what with you getting terminology blatantly wrong. Still, I can't believe you thought you had to "dumb down" something to someone who flat-out stated he was studying the material.

Oh yeah, and the "free fall" bit in regards to the towers is still an utter lie, which has been explained to you in several other threads. You continue to ignore it, however.

If people didn't ignore evidence conspiracy theories wouldn't exist.

BS.

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I find a lot of them to be very interesting. Some are more plausible than others. I believe that there are, at the very least, elements of truth within many of them. I don't take them all at face value, and I certainly take them with a grain of salt, but I also do not brush them all off. I don't really trust a lot of what's in this world, so many conspiracy theories make a lot of sense to me.
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[QUOTE="6matt6"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"] Oh, so you *have* taken a high school physics course, I would never have guessed it, what with you getting terminology blatantly wrong. Still, I can't believe you thought you had to "dumb down" something to someone who flat-out stated he was studying the material.

Oh yeah, and the "free fall" bit in regards to the towers is still an utter lie, which has been explained to you in several other threads. You continue to ignore it, however.

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If people didn't ignore evidence conspiracy theories wouldn't exist.

BS.

Conspiracy theories only exist because they're theories. Proven Conspiracies are are called just that. Conspiracies. Almost all major conspiracy theories around today can be debunked with facts and evidence. The evidence holding 9/11 is an inside job/moon landings/JFK and others are founded on shaky evidence and anecdotes. Almost any time you show someone evidence as to why for example the towers collapsed the way they did they hand wave away and say 'The media would say that, the government controls the media. I'M STILL RIGHT'
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[QUOTE="racer8dan"]

[QUOTE="6matt6"] If people didn't ignore evidence conspiracy theories wouldn't exist.

6matt6

BS.

Conspiracy theories only exist because they're theories. Proven Conspiracies are are called just that. Conspiracies. Almost all major conspiracy theories around today can be debunked with facts and evidence. The evidence holding 9/11 is an inside job/moon landings/JFK and others are founded on shaky evidence and anecdotes. Almost any time you show someone evidence as to why for example the towers collapsed the way they did they hand wave away and say 'The media would say that, the government controls the media. I'M STILL RIGHT'

It's not always a matter of "facts", not everything thats leads a person to question the official story of an event can be "debunked". For example: On 9/10/01, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld announced that the pentagon couldn't account for $2.3 Trillion in transactions. The next day the pentagon was hit and the trade towers fell. It seems way to conveniant that this was announced right before the attacks, as if they knew of the attacks in advanced and anounced this to keep the news from gaining any headway.