Do you believe in Evolution???

[QUOTE="syorks"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="syorks"][QUOTE="Hiddai"]

[QUOTE="shinian"]Some of you are forgetting that Christian Church dosen't deny theory of evolution.mig_killer2

really? i knowthat we the Jews don't deny the Big Bang theory but never heard about christians that don't deny evolution...

Cause people who refuse to believe in God believe that the entire universe just created itself in one massive explosion. I just can't comprehend nothing making absolutely everything.

do you accept the theory of evolution?

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="syorks"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="syorks"][QUOTE="Hiddai"]

[QUOTE="shinian"]Some of you are forgetting that Christian Church dosen't deny theory of evolution.syorks

really? i knowthat we the Jews don't deny the Big Bang theory but never heard about christians that don't deny evolution...

Cause people who refuse to believe in God believe that the entire universe just created itself in one massive explosion. I just can't comprehend nothing making absolutely everything.

do you accept the theory of evolution?

thats the big bang theory

if the theory of evolution is not true, then how do you explain common endogenous retroviruses and cytochrome c and redundant pseudogenes?

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="syorks"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="syorks"][QUOTE="Hiddai"]

[QUOTE="shinian"]Some of you are forgetting that Christian Church dosen't deny theory of evolution.syorks

really? i knowthat we the Jews don't deny the Big Bang theory but never heard about christians that don't deny evolution...

Cause people who refuse to believe in God believe that the entire universe just created itself in one massive explosion. I just can't comprehend nothing making absolutely everything.

do you accept the theory of evolution?

Then what does the big bang actually say cuz i must have always misunderstood that. And i accept the theory of evolution as just being a theory but i personally do not believe it.syorks

"He that will not reason is a bigot, he that cannot reason is a fool, and he that dares not reason is a slave" - William Drummond of Hawthornden

[QUOTE="syorks"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="syorks"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="syorks"][QUOTE="Hiddai"]

[QUOTE="shinian"]Some of you are forgetting that Christian Church dosen't deny theory of evolution.mig_killer2

really? i knowthat we the Jews don't deny the Big Bang theory but never heard about christians that don't deny evolution...

Cause people who refuse to believe in God believe that the entire universe just created itself in one massive explosion. I just can't comprehend nothing making absolutely everything.

do you accept the theory of evolution?

thats the big bang theory

if the theory of evolution is not true, then how do you explain common endogenous retroviruses and cytochrome c and redundant pseudogenes?

But that still asks the question of what or who created it all? What created it?

ugh these threads are getting old.cooldude855

[QUOTE="Hiddai"]

[QUOTE="shinian"]Some of you are forgetting that Christian Church dosen't deny theory of evolution.syorks

really? i knowthat we the Jews don't deny the Big Bang theory but never heard about christians that don't deny evolution...

[QUOTE="Hiddai"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Hiddai"][QUOTE="Anamosa41"][QUOTE="MakersMark_2023"]

[QUOTE="Anamosa41"]I take the Bible literally. I've told you this before.syorks

why? (this is non-interrogational, btw.)

ok fair enough i like people like you however in the bible itself there are many contradictions so i can ask you to explain them

If you understand the Bible fully then it doesn't contradict whatsoever.

BTW, I'm a Young-Earth Creationist and I therefore do not believe in the Theory of Evolution.

Wrong. It's because there are many explanations to these contradictions by many ppl like our Sages of Blessed Memory etc. but when you read it literally you can notice that the bible has many authors with different opinions and sometimes they contradict each other

Please show me these alleged contradictions that can't be explained with a common answer like each of the others saw the same thing with different perspectives or something like that.

Well let's try first this: Why in the book of genesis they telling 2 times the story of the creation of Adam and Eve forst time they say the God created Adam and Eve at the same time and later (next chapter) they tell the famous story of Adam first and then Eve.

Of course you can see that these are 2 different authors with different opinions one author said this and second author said that...

[QUOTE="syorks"][QUOTE="Hiddai"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Hiddai"][QUOTE="Anamosa41"][QUOTE="MakersMark_2023"]

[QUOTE="Anamosa41"]I take the Bible literally. I've told you this before.Hiddai

why? (this is non-interrogational, btw.)

ok fair enough i like people like you however in the bible itself there are many contradictions so i can ask you to explain them

If you understand the Bible fully then it doesn't contradict whatsoever.

BTW, I'm a Young-Earth Creationist and I therefore do not believe in the Theory of Evolution.

Wrong. It's because there are many explanations to these contradictions by many ppl like our Sages of Blessed Memory etc. but when you read it literally you can notice that the bible has many authors with different opinions and sometimes they contradict each other

Please show me these alleged contradictions that can't be explained with a common answer like each of the others saw the same thing with different perspectives or something like that.

Well let's try first this: Why in the book of genesis they telling 2 times the story of the creation of Adam and Eve forst time they say the God created Adam and Eve at the same time and later (next chapter) they tell the famous story of Adam first and then Eve.

Of course you can see that these are 2 different authors with different opinions one author said this and second author said that...

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="syorks"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="syorks"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="syorks"][QUOTE="Hiddai"]

[QUOTE="shinian"]Some of you are forgetting that Christian Church dosen't deny theory of evolution.syorks

really? i knowthat we the Jews don't deny the Big Bang theory but never heard about christians that don't deny evolution...

Cause people who refuse to believe in God believe that the entire universe just created itself in one massive explosion. I just can't comprehend nothing making absolutely everything.

do you accept the theory of evolution?

thats the big bang theory

if the theory of evolution is not true, then how do you explain common endogenous retroviruses and cytochrome c and redundant pseudogenes?

But that still asks the question of what or who created it all? What created it?

[QUOTE="Hiddai"][QUOTE="syorks"][QUOTE="Hiddai"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Hiddai"][QUOTE="Anamosa41"][QUOTE="MakersMark_2023"]

[QUOTE="Anamosa41"]I take the Bible literally. I've told you this before.syorks

why? (this is non-interrogational, btw.)

ok fair enough i like people like you however in the bible itself there are many contradictions so i can ask you to explain them

If you understand the Bible fully then it doesn't contradict whatsoever.

BTW, I'm a Young-Earth Creationist and I therefore do not believe in the Theory of Evolution.

Wrong. It's because there are many explanations to these contradictions by many ppl like our Sages of Blessed Memory etc. but when you read it literally you can notice that the bible has many authors with different opinions and sometimes they contradict each other

Please show me these alleged contradictions that can't be explained with a common answer like each of the others saw the same thing with different perspectives or something like that.

Well let's try first this: Why in the book of genesis they telling 2 times the story of the creation of Adam and Eve forst time they say the God created Adam and Eve at the same time and later (next chapter) they tell the famous story of Adam first and then Eve.

Of course you can see that these are 2 different authors with different opinions one author said this and second author said that...

I know you might can't notice it but in hebrew you can see in the bible that the language (the way he tells the story) is different sometimes in certain chapters...

[QUOTE="cooldude855"]ugh these threads are getting old.helium_flash

[QUOTE="helium_flash"][QUOTE="cooldude855"]ugh these threads are getting old.Silchas

in my opinion a inteligent , rational guy would dismiss the bible stories and other holy text books as being true.

i see the bible as a collection of myths no offence to christian and jews and moslem right here ( the Koran too)

in my opinion a inteligent , rational guy would dismiss the bible stories and other holy text books as being true.

i see the bible as a collection of myths no offence to christian and jews and moslem right here ( the Koran too)

I believe in most of evolution.sonicare

"Most"?

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Yes evolution is real and no we didn't evolve from monkeys and anyone who thinks thats what evoulution is, is a dumbass :)RoflSponge

Though it's not quite how I would say it, I agree with the sentiment.

yeah why not?JetB1ackNewYear

Why not? ask the 29 ppl who voted 'No'...

Depends on which accepts we are talking about...

However, to give you over-simplistic answer, I would have to say "yes," to certain degree.

I belive in the moon and the evolution and Im very naivedragon7x2k

Both evolution and the existence of the moon is just myths perpotrated bychild eating liberals!Don't believe any of that so called 'science'!How do they explain the divinity of our Lord? THEY CAN'T!

That's for you Syorks (copied it cuz it's too much writing...):

There is little scholarly agreement as to even the century in which the Exodus should be placed. If one accepts a plain reading of 1 Kings 6:1, then the Exodus occurred 480 years before Solomon began to build the Temple in the 4th year of his reign; and he completed it seven years later (1 Kings 6:37-38). The consensus of most experts dates this dedication in the range of 960-970 BCE. The date derives from the end of his reign overlapping the beginning of the reign of the biblical Pharaoh Shishaq, who is then identified with the Pharaoh Sheshonq I (945-924). (The Biblical Minimalist school of interpretation challenge the historicity of Solomon and thereby the date of the Temple.) If Solomon (970-928) dedicated the Temple in year 966, we arrive at an Exodus date of approximately 1440 BC. Unfortunately this date remains unsatisfactory for several reasons:

Other biblical data may conflict with this 480 years between the Exodus and the Temple.

• In the era of the Judges, if one adds their reigns, they exceed 480 years, thus suggesting an earlier date for the Exodus. Alternatively, if judges are understood as leaders of various localities, who rule contemporaneously, the time may be less than 480 years.
• In the New Testament (Acts 13:18,20), Paul says the judges and the 40-year Wandering total 450 years, but still does not take into account the reign of the kings Saul and David, which suggests a period of about 540 years.
• 480 = 12 x 40. It seems a conspicuously round number, that may not intend a precise mathematical figure but rather a symbolic meaning, such as 40 years of repentance for each of the 12 tribes of Israel. Alternatively, the Book of Kings may have noted a literal length of time of precisely 480 years because of its symbolic implications.

The derivative date of around 1440 BCE for the Exodus seems to pinpoint a Pharaoh whose Egyptian records may not match the biblical description.

• 1446 falls in the reign of Thutmose III, whether his reign is dated according to earlier High Chronology or the later more-conventional Low Chronology. From archeology, records about him do not mention him expelling Hyksos, Hebrews, Beduins, Asiatics, or any group that can be identified with Israel. Perhaps oppositely, he was said to capture Canaanite prisoners in battle to bring them to Egypt as slaves. Admittedly, the Pharaoh of the Exodus also chased the Israelites to try capture them as slaves.

An Exodus date of 1440 BC, followed by a 40-year Wandering, would result in a Conquest date of 1400 BC, which seems to match nothing in the archeology of Israel. There are many places with destruction layers dating to around 1200 BCE (and to around 1550 BCE), but little around 1400 BCE.

• At Hazor, a destruction layer is at the transition from the Canaanite Bronze Age to the Israelite Iron Age, dating to around 1200 BCE ± 50 years. This date corresponds to the Merneptah Stele that mentions Israel in this area around year 1208. A similar layer at Lachish is dated to 1150, and at Megiddo to 1145 BCE. Other "Joshua" cities have transition layers around 1250 BCE. (Even so, some "Joshua" cities don't have destruction layers or, like Jericho, don't even exist around 1400 or 1200.)
• If the 1200 BCE destruction layers evidence the activity of Israelites under Joshua, either the biblical figure of 480 years must be discounted, or Egyptian chronology must be radically revised, or biblical chronology must be radically revised. A number of scholars have attempted to revise Egyptian chronology, but so far such revisions cause more problems than they solve.
• Alternatively, the understanding of the Bible's chronology for King Solomon may be wrong, so that the biblical Pharaoh Shishak is not to be equated with Sheshonq I despite the linguistically equivalent names, but rather with a much later Pharaoh, such as 25th-dynasty Shabaka (721-707), thereby redating Solomon's reign to around 760-717 BCE, so that the destruction layers around 1200 occur 440 years earlier, and thus the Exodus 480 years earlier. Unfortunately, such a late date for Solomon is difficult because the reigns of the kings of Judah and Israel after him must also be taken into account.
• Alternatively, if Solomon's reign redated earlier to around 1110-1068, then the Exodus would occur 480 years earlier around 1550. If so, biblical Shishak may correspond with a 21st Dynasty Pharaoh, such as Smendes I, despite a lack of linguistic evidence to support the equation.

We have a tail bone,explain that one to me if we didn't evolve from monkeys :Oblacktorn

[QUOTE="blacktorn"]We have a tail bone,explain that one to me if we didn't evolve from monkeys :OMattUD1

I think he meant common ancestors in his claim

here we go again - that makes 7,342 and counting :roll:m4gicm4rty

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