Do you believe in Heaven and/or Hell?

Uh....there is a topic almost exactly like this made about 10 minutes ago. There have been like 5 in the past day. Please search the board before posting.Vuurk

That topic is about whether or not you believe in a God... :|

I just checked and the topic is still on the first page even....come on man....

It's titled Is Hell Real?

Please don't make duplicate topics if there is already one on the first page.

Vuurk

Belief =/= real. ;)

No.

I also don't believe in fairies.

yeah? no.

at least not in a christian sense.

[QUOTE="Vuurk"]

I just checked and the topic is still on the first page even....come on man....

It's titled Is Hell Real?

Please don't make duplicate topics if there is already one on the first page.

battlefront23

Belief =/= real. ;)

I believe heaven and hell to be real... I also believe gravity to be real. Your argument just failed.

Oh, I voted incorrectly! ~ de arimasu

I'm depressed now. ~ de arimasu :cry:

No.

I also don't believe in fairies.

FamiBox

Are you comparing religion to a mythological creature? That is just wrong on so many levels.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="Vuurk"]Uh....there is a topic almost exactly like this made about 10 minutes ago. There have been like 5 in the past day. Please search the board before posting.Vuurk

That topic is about whether or not you believe in a God... :|

No, there is also another topic about that too though. There is one specifically titled Is Hell Real? Please don't be so ignorant.

Look at my previous post. And also why post in here then? Your opinion is meaningless since you didn't post one. So just don't post in here. :|

[QUOTE="Vuurk"]

I just checked and the topic is still on the first page even....come on man....

It's titled Is Hell Real?

Please don't make duplicate topics if there is already one on the first page.

battlefront23

Belief =/= real. ;)

Hang on you want us to talk about heaven and hell not in terms of belief but in terms of knowledge? How exactly do you expect that to happen, nobody knows anything particularly not about a supernatural place.

[QUOTE="FamiBox"]

No.

I also don't believe in fairies.

harashawn

Are you comparing religion to a mythological creature? That is just wrong on so many levels.

Yet it happens all the time in OT...

Yes there is a heaven and hell

Everyone should know that.

[QUOTE="FamiBox"]

No.

I also don't believe in fairies.

harashawn

Are you comparing religion to a mythological creature? That is just wrong on so many levels.

It's not wrong. There's no difference.

Do we really need another one?-Katsuri-

I find it interesting to hear everones opinions.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="Vuurk"]

I just checked and the topic is still on the first page even....come on man....

It's titled Is Hell Real?

Please don't make duplicate topics if there is already one on the first page.

domatron23

Belief =/= real. ;)

Hang on you want us to talk about heaven and hell not in terms of belief but in terms of knowledge? How exactly do you expect that to happen, nobody knows anything particularly not about a supernatural place.

Oops my bad I got it backwards. Okay I don't believe in heaven or hell.

Heaven or Hell?!

Fight!

[QUOTE="harashawn"]
[QUOTE="FamiBox"]

No.

I also don't believe in fairies.

FamiBox

Are you comparing religion to a mythological creature? That is just wrong on so many levels.

It's not wrong. There's no difference.

There is a difference. There are rational reasons to believe in Heaven/Hell. Fairies, Santa Clause and the rest...not so much.

Heaven or Hell?!

Fight!

The_Ish

[QUOTE="FamiBox"][QUOTE="harashawn"]
[QUOTE="FamiBox"]

No.

I also don't believe in fairies.

Yodas_Boy

Are you comparing religion to a mythological creature? That is just wrong on so many levels.

It's not wrong. There's no difference.

There is a difference. There are rational reasons to believe in Heaven/Hell. Fairies, Santa Clause and the rest...not so much.

There are no "rational" reasons to believe in heaven/hell what so ever.

Do we really need another one?-Katsuri-

OT will spontaneously combust if one isn't made every 10 minutes.

[QUOTE="domatron23"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="Vuurk"]

I just checked and the topic is still on the first page even....come on man....

It's titled Is Hell Real?

Please don't make duplicate topics if there is already one on the first page.

domatron23

Belief =/= real. ;)

Hang on you want us to talk about heaven and hell not in terms of belief but in terms of knowledge? How exactly do you expect that to happen, nobody knows anything particularly not about a supernatural place.

Oops my bad I got it backwards. Okay I don't believe in heaven or hell.

Heh, yeah I was about to say, 'Damn domatron, where'd you get that logic from?' :P

Anyway, I don't believe in heaven or hell.

Yes there is a heaven and hell

Everyone should know that.

DarkSmokeNinja

Oh, but of course! I mean, it's so obvious that heaven and hell are real. :roll:

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="Vuurk"]

I just checked and the topic is still on the first page even....come on man....

It's titled Is Hell Real?

Please don't make duplicate topics if there is already one on the first page.

mindstorm

Belief =/= real. ;)

I believe heaven and hell to be real... I also believe gravity to be real. Your argument just failed.

a belief is not knowledge. you do not only believe it to be true, but it explains why everything is not floating around you. you witness it to be true, because when you drop something it falls back to the earth. so there is physical evidence, as in you can use your senses to see the apple fall to the earth. therefore, you are taught it in school, and it is commonly accepted. so no you dont believe in gravity. you KNOW gravity exists. whereas heaven and hell, can only be believed in. one cannot accumulate evidence that in fact heaven does exist, through testing or seeing it or proving it mathematically. heaven and hell are concepts, or places, we as humans believe in. there is no way for you to say "see, look there is heaven." so 'believing' in heaven and 'believing' in gravity are completly different. one is a belief and one is an explination for why the apple falls instead of rises.

[QUOTE="FamiBox"]

No.

I also don't believe in fairies.

harashawn

Are you comparing religion to a mythological creature? That is just wrong on so many levels.

no, that's right on many more levels. he's comparing mythology to mythology.

for instance, people of today, well most of them at least, wouldn't regard greek gods, or norse gods, or sumerian gods, as a real religion, but merely as mythology. what makes the religions of today any different?

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="Vuurk"]

I just checked and the topic is still on the first page even....come on man....

It's titled Is Hell Real?

Please don't make duplicate topics if there is already one on the first page.

p2rus

Belief =/= real. ;)

I believe heaven and hell to be real... I also believe gravity to be real. Your argument just failed.

a belief is not knowledge. you do not only believe it to be true, but it explains why everything is not floating around you. you witness it to be true, because when you drop something it falls back to the earth. so there is physical evidence, as in you can use your senses to see the apple fall to the earth. therefore, you are taught it in school, and it is commonly accepted. so no you dont believe in gravity. you KNOW gravity exists. whereas heaven and hell, can only be believed in. one cannot accumulate evidence that in fact heaven does exist, through testing or seeing it or proving it mathematically. heaven and hell are concepts, or places, we as humans believe in. there is no way for you to say "see, look there is heaven." so 'believing' in heaven and 'believing' in gravity are completly different. one is a belief and one is an explination for why the apple falls instead of rises.

Who says I do not witness my God to be true by the things I see around me? Just because you interpret those things differently than me doesn't mean it isn't knowledge. I do not deny that I could be wrong but based upon the evidence I've seen... I believe in God. In just the same way I do not deny that I could be wrong about the evidence I've seen about gravity. The evidence from what I've witnessed is that both are true.

Who says I do not witness my God to be true by the things I see around me? Just because you interpret those things differently than me doesn't mean it isn't knowledge. I do not deny that I could be wrong but based upon the evidence I've seen... I believe in God. In just the same way I do not deny that I could be wrong about the evidence I've seen about gravity.

mindstorm

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]

Who says I do not witness my God to be true by the things I see around me? Just because you interpret those things differently than me doesn't mean it isn't knowledge. I do not deny that I could be wrong but based upon the evidence I've seen... I believe in God. In just the same way I do not deny that I could be wrong about the evidence I've seen about gravity.

p2rus

I understand why you'd believe that but I believe it to be the Judeo-Christian God that exists due to the Bible. I know that's a very cliche answer but I'm constantly learning more and more about the Bible every single day typically for hours at the time. The more I learn the less I doubt my God to be the God of the universe.

I understand why you'd believe that but I believe it to be the Judeo-Christian God that exists due to the Bible. I know that's a very cliche answer but I'm constantly learning more and more about the Bible every single day typically for hours at the time. The more I learn the less I doubt my God to be the God of the universe.

mindstorm

No, because I outgrew my weakness of believing in fantasies shortly after puberty.Persecuted_1

Are you trying to offend people? That kind of remark can easily get you modded.

[QUOTE="The_Ish"]

Heaven or Hell?!

Fight!

-Katsuri-

It had to be done. 8)

[QUOTE="p2rus"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]

Who says I do not witness my God to be true by the things I see around me? Just because you interpret those things differently than me doesn't mean it isn't knowledge. I do not deny that I could be wrong but based upon the evidence I've seen... I believe in God. In just the same way I do not deny that I could be wrong about the evidence I've seen about gravity.

mindstorm

I understand why you'd believe that but I believe it to be the Judeo-Christian God that exists due to the Bible. I know that's a very cliche answer but I'm constantly learning more and more about the Bible every single day typically for hours at the time. The more I learn the less I doubt my God to be the God of the universe.

Um, sorry, but could you be the christian to finally give me a good, logical explanation as to why the bible, a book written by MEN thousands of years ago, provides ANY evidence that god exists other than the usual "the book says it's true, so it's true period"?

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]

I understand why you'd believe that but I believe it to be the Judeo-Christian God that exists due to the Bible. I know that's a very cliche answer but I'm constantly learning more and more about the Bible every single day typically for hours at the time. The more I learn the less I doubt my God to be the God of the universe.

p2rus

I believe it to be completely true and the Word of God. I take many passages to be literal and many to be figurative depending on the genre of the passage (poetry for example isn't to be taken as literal, the historical books are). Also, I believe each passage should be interpreted in the context of the entire Bible and not just taking what a single phrase says. Basically yes but I believe the Bible can be easily misinterpreted.

[QUOTE="Persecuted_1"]No, because I outgrew my weakness of believing in fantasies shortly after puberty.harashawn

Are you trying to offend people? That kind of remark can easily get you modded.

Just because some may find it offensive, doesn't mean it's wrong. :|