Do you believe in the perfect murder?

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#1 hobbez
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Is it possible to pull off a perfect murder?
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#2 trav_have
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I dont know, I guess it depends.

Give me an example :P .

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#3 Brainkiller05
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Yes, I believe it is possible.
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#4 muppet1010
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yes of course its possible... but is it "right" ?
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#5 domatron23
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Yeah sure. All you gotta do is reverse engineer, figure out every possible way you could be caught (D.N.A. evidence etc) and then eliminate those possibilities.
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#6 rubenbos007
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There are so many murderers around that haven't been caught jet. So yes I think its possible.
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#7 hobbez
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Yeah sure. All you gotta do is reverse engineer, figure out every possible way you could be caught (D.N.A. evidence etc) and then eliminate those possibilities.domatron23

Hm.. Yea you can always hide the evidence but there will always be motive, I think that's the hardest part to hide.

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#8 _Tobli_
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Hm.. Yea you can always hide the evidence but there will always be motive, I think that's the hardest part to hide. hobbez

You could just kill random people

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[QUOTE="domatron23"]Yeah sure. All you gotta do is reverse engineer, figure out every possible way you could be caught (D.N.A. evidence etc) and then eliminate those possibilities.hobbez

Hm.. Yea you can always hide the evidence but there will always be motive, I think that's the hardest part to hide.

Easy just eliminate the motive. Kill a random person who you have absolutely no connection to. That does mean that you can't kill your enemies but it's still a perfect murder

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#10 edd678
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It is possible indeed.
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#11 Buffalo_Soulja
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Yeah sure. All you gotta do is reverse engineer, figure out every possible way you could be caught (D.N.A. evidence etc) and then eliminate those possibilities.domatron23

Yeah but people can always come up with new forensics. D.N.A. has helped to solve crimes committed prior to it's discovery.

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#12 hojobojo
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Yeah.. there are many murders still out there...
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[QUOTE="domatron23"]Yeah sure. All you gotta do is reverse engineer, figure out every possible way you could be caught (D.N.A. evidence etc) and then eliminate those possibilities.hobbez

Hm.. Yea you can always hide the evidence but there will always be motive, I think that's the hardest part to hide.

true... you could just go on along drive to somewhere and kill a random person, drive bakc and you'd be even harder to catch. As to why you would want to do that :|

but true you couldnt kill your enemies.

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#14 sciortino
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The assassination of JFK, no one knows who done it, does that make it perfect?

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#15 solidgamer
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ummm yeh

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#16 hobbez
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[QUOTE="hobbez"]

[QUOTE="domatron23"]Yeah sure. All you gotta do is reverse engineer, figure out every possible way you could be caught (D.N.A. evidence etc) and then eliminate those possibilities.domatron23

Hm.. Yea you can always hide the evidence but there will always be motive, I think that's the hardest part to hide.

Easy just eliminate the motive. Kill a random person who you have absolutely no connection to. That does mean that you can't kill your enemies but it's still a perfect murder

Well yea random killings could be easily carried out but there's just no point to it (comforting to know that most people don't choose to operate this way). If you wanted to kill someone, it's already not a perfect murder as there'd be a motive. Motivated killings require much cleverer obscuring of the truth.

PS. This is my 666th post, I never thought it would be about perfect murder.

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#17 domatron23
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[QUOTE="domatron23"][QUOTE="hobbez"]

[QUOTE="domatron23"]Yeah sure. All you gotta do is reverse engineer, figure out every possible way you could be caught (D.N.A. evidence etc) and then eliminate those possibilities.hobbez

Hm.. Yea you can always hide the evidence but there will always be motive, I think that's the hardest part to hide.

Easy just eliminate the motive. Kill a random person who you have absolutely no connection to. That does mean that you can't kill your enemies but it's still a perfect murder

Well yea random killings could be easily carried out but there's just no point to it (comforting to know that most people don't choose to operate this way). If you wanted to kill someone, it's already not a perfect murder as there'd be a motive. Motivated killings require much cleverer obscuring of the truth.

PS. This is my 666th post, I never thought it would be about perfect murder.

Congrats on the 666 posts.

I suppose you could circumvent motive by framing someone else. How the hell you would do that is another thing all together.

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#18 muppet1010
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LOL anyone else find irony in the fact we are discussing possible ways of committing a murder and not being caught.. it doesnt get locked. Yet much lesser things would be locked in a heartbeat?
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#19 domatron23
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LOL anyone else find irony in the fact we are discussing possible ways of committing a murder and not being caught.. it doesnt get locked. Yet much lesser things would be locked in a heartbeat?muppet1010

Well I think that there's a tacit understanding that this is a discussion about a concept rather than a plan of action.

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[QUOTE="muppet1010"]LOL anyone else find irony in the fact we are discussing possible ways of committing a murder and not being caught.. it doesnt get locked. Yet much lesser things would be locked in a heartbeat?domatron23

Well I think that there's a tacit understanding that this is a discussion about a concept rather than a plan of action.

I reckon someone up there has a more nefarious motive, so if I should dissapear...

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#21 Hewkii
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Hm.. Yea you can always hide the evidence but there will always be motive, I think that's the hardest part to hide.

hobbez

unless said person has too many enemies.

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[QUOTE="muppet1010"]LOL anyone else find irony in the fact we are discussing possible ways of committing a murder and not being caught.. it doesnt get locked. Yet much lesser things would be locked in a heartbeat?domatron23

Well I think that there's a tacit understanding that this is a discussion about a concept rather than a plan of action.

yes I realise its all sort of theoretical, but none the less

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#23 Pessu
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Well the fact is that there is no such thing in this world as perfect so no its not possible. You cant commit murders that are 99.9% not solvable but theres always the 0.01% chance it will be solved.

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#24 dracos9000
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People dont need a motive to kill some kill for the sheer pleasure of taking life from another person. If you don't believe me research some of the serial killers.
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#25 gijswil
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I think its possible but really hard
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#26 British_Azimio
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Yes, but it's almost impossible to do so if your victim is related to you.
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#27 Morphic
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The perfect murder is totally possible. You only need to eliminate evidence, witnesses, and connection to the deceased. Now if you went for a drive one day, and paid cash at every gas station and drive for a few 100 miles. Took a high powered rifle in the middle of no where, and killed someone and drove home. Chances are you'd never get caught if nobody saw you. Now if your confidant enough you can keep the rifle, just say its for hunting. However if your the pareniod type you can have it destroyed. And if your even more parenoid, trade in your car and get a new/used one.
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#28 hamstergeddon
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Hells yes.  Just ask my Uncle Louie!
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#29 flipin_jackass
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Is it possible to pull off a perfect murder?hobbez

Of course. And you can't prove it, because if you can, then it's not perfect.

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#30 quiglythegreat
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No. No one is totally ok with murder, no one considers it to be the perfect thing to do, it's the angry, violent, messed up things that make someone do this, not something perfect like altruism, so it can never be perfect.
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#31 KiIIyou
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It's only imperfect if you fail to murder the person.
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#32 Fortier
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There are hundreds (likely thousands)of unsolved murder cases in the world. So yes.
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Play a game called Hitman.
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get the death note book
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#35 wemhim
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Murder isn't too hard to get away with. Notice how people like Dahmer and Bundy got caught?(Not because of a good CSI crew) It's just that most people don't like killing people(Me included).
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#36 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Yes. Look at the 2Pac and Biggie murders.
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#37 MagnumPI
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There is no such thing as a perfect murder. There will always be some degree of evidence. There is a way to getaway with murder.

The only way to get away with murder is to belong gone with NOtraces back to you. Once you're a suspect it's only a matter of time until they figure out it was you and all they need then is the evidence. They will eventually find it. It's not what they know it's what they can prove, but once they know theywill dig until they can prove it.

Be long gone with no witnesses nor suspision. That's how you get away with it. It won't be perfect but nobodyd knows who you are nobody knows you were there so nobody has any reason to suspect you. They don't even know who you are. You could be anyone anywhere in the world.

People get caught because they kill people they know in an area they livewhere people know or recognize them.They can't disappear. Their only hope you would be that the jury is stupid or judicial technicality conflicts with justice

Some get caught because they keep doing it in the same area or they have the evidence right underneath them. That's usually why serial killers are caught.

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#38 Kritical_Strike
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There are hundreds (likely thousands)of unsolved murder cases in the world. So yes.Fortier

But they stilll aren't perfect, all those cases still are under threat of being solved. A perfect murder is unsolvable, hence why there is no such thing as a perfect murder.

Even if you can kill people by inducing heartattacks with a magical notebook, you still can be caught :wink:

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#39 soldier-dark
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Kill someone you have no relation to that lives nowhere near you, burn the body and the building/area you killed them in.
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#40 MagnumPI
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[QUOTE="Fortier"]There are hundreds (likely thousands)of unsolved murder cases in the world. So yes.Kritical_Strike

But they stilll aren't perfect, all those cases still are under threat of being solved. A perfect murder is unsolvable, hence why there is no such thing as a perfect murder.

Even if you can kill people by inducing heartattacks with a magical notebook, you still can be caught :wink:

Yup, maybe 12 or 20 or whatever years later the FBI shows up with awarrant for you arrest because someone reopened the case and has some new evidence.