Do You Believe Jesus Christ Rose From The Dead? (Poll)

what the bible dosnt tell you is that before jesus was nailed to the cross, he was given a small dose of the T-virus, thus he was enabled to rise from the dead :)

Churches have been presenting the bible as fact to Billions of people for hundreds of years.

Even though it is an impossible story, it's too late to change such a tradition.

swazidoughman

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]
No, they are not. They believe salvation is through faith AND works - not just faith.

Crushmaster

If faith is in the heart of a person, he automatically does good. For example, if a person says ' I believe in God and His commands'. He then goes about killing people. What kind of faith is this? This clearly shows that he is only showing that he has faith while actually he has none. If he had faith he would have followed God's commands. Hence, faith and actions are inter-linked. Good actions may be done without belief but belief without good actions is incomplete(for that automatically implies that belief is not perfect).

The Bible makes it clear we are all evil, Mfaraz. I am, you are, everyone on this sight is. Obviously, sins are viewed in somewhat different lights, yes. But good works cannot save you. Because I deserve Hell just as much as a murderer. Because every human being on this planet is evil.

"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it?"Crushmaster

My best freind isdeciding if he wants to become a Catholic preist or not. Are you saying he is not a Christian? He is the most devout Christian I have ever known. How dare you. You don't get to decide who is a Christian and who is not just because of slight theological disagreement.

Catholisim and Protestantism are both Christianity. They are both Christianity with some differences. Stop being an elitist.

IndigoSunrise

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]No, I do not.-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]
No, they are not. They believe salvation is through faith AND works - not just faith.

Crushmaster

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

Anyone ever think that the fantastical events in the bible are metaphors or something like that ?

CellAnimation

Until someone mentions these:

Psalms 93:1 "The Lord reigns, he is clothed with majesty; The Lord is clothed, He has girded Himself with strength. Surely the world is established so that it cannot be moved."

So the world doesn't move?

Some people actually take the Bible that literally.

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]The Bible makes it clear we are all evil, Mfaraz. I am, you are, everyone on this sight is. Obviously, sins are viewed in somewhat different lights, yes. But good works cannot save you. Because I deserve Hell just as much as a murderer. Because every human being on this planet is evil.

"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it?"foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]Churches have been presenting the bible as fact to Billions of people for hundreds of years.

Even though it is an impossible story, it's too late to change such a tradition.

foxhound_fox

Sounds like an interesting read actually.

Could be a way to test if Churches are truly teaching morals or just making some cash off of a story.

[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"] And perhaps that is what is more logical. What kind of justice is it, if a person who performs killings, rapes and all kinds of evil deeds enters heaven because he believes and someone who is good in actions enters hell............... Is this the definition of a Just God?Crushmaster

ahehehehe....no, im not the same as a cold blooded murderer

"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it?"

exactly, and the bible wastold by "god" but who was the person who literally took the pen and wrote the words? MEN and like you say all men are evil so whos to say they diddnt change up some things ;)

yes i believe jesus christ rose from the dead, because i am god, i am his father, thus christianity is proven and all you non believers are going to hell dont believe it ? give me your names and i shall write them all in my little diary under the Hell section and take pictures dont ever insult my son, that gets you a ticket straight to hell

I believe Jesus rose from the dead, and I also know that he's going to come back again.

Your morality? Really? Have you ever lied, lusted, stolen, had evil thoughts? Crushmaster

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Umm, yes they are...

Dutch_Mix

Not that I'm Catholic or anything but...

"Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead, being by itself." James 2:17

I also know that he's going to come back again.

DarkSmokeNinja

How do you know this?

Who told you?

[QUOTE="demondogx"]

jesus who ?

Crushmaster

[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"] And perhaps that is what is more logical. What kind of justice is it, if a person who performs killings, rapes and all kinds of evil deeds enters heaven because he believes and someone who is good in actions enters hell............... Is this the definition of a Just God?Crushmaster

The Catholic Church teaches faith + works. Not just works. Also, members of said church are taught to back up their faith with works in order to have fully satisfied the Law of God. Do you disagree with that?

I'm still waiting for a reply to my previous post, Crush.

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]

[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"] And perhaps that is what is more logical. What kind of justice is it, if a person who performs killings, rapes and all kinds of evil deeds enters heaven because he believes and someone who is good in actions enters hell............... Is this the definition of a Just God?legend26

ahehehehe....no, im not the same as a cold blooded murderer

"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it?"

exactly, and the bible wastold by "god" but who was the person who literally took the pen and wrote the words? MEN and like you say all men are evil so whos to say they diddnt change up some things ;)

[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"] And perhaps that is what is more logical. What kind of justice is it, if a person who performs killings, rapes and all kinds of evil deeds enters heaven because he believes and someone who is good in actions enters hell............... Is this the definition of a Just God?Crushmaster

Even if you prove from the Bible that some evil desire equals murdering.......yet fact remains.........when you murder, you are inflicting damage on others.......where as with evil desires, damage is not being inflicted on others. Hence, the overall damage of murder will be greater than that of any desire.

Even evilness( I am not sure whether this is an actual word) has degrees. Are those who are less evil equal to those who are more evil?

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]
No, they are not. They believe salvation is through faith AND works - not just faith.

Crushmaster

All Catholics are Christian, not all Christians are Catholic. Its really not that difficult to understand, think of it this way pretend your a square, that makes you a rectangle by extention. If you are a rectangle then you may be a square but you dont have to be (you may have unequal sides). I hope this 1st grade metaphore isnt over your head :|

The first option.

We can't both be right.

Crushmaster

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]Your morality? Really? Have you ever lied, lusted, stolen, had evil thoughts? foxhound_fox

neither of you are, personaly i believe the egyptian gods to be the true gods :P, thats old school right there, jesus is new school, just a carbon copy of the old school, and stolen holidaysEuroshinobi

[QUOTE="DarkSmokeNinja"]

I also know that he's going to come back again.

swazidoughman

How do you know this?

Who told you?

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]

We can't both be right.

Euroshinobi

'kay, for the record, the Greek gods are much cooler than the Egyptian gods :P.

All hail almighty Zeus!

In the grand scheme of things, what does it matter? Why should I solely worship a man who coincidentally has the ability of resurrection?

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]neither of you are, personaly i believe the egyptian gods to be the true gods :P, thats old school right there, jesus is new school, just a carbon copy of the old school, and stolen holidaysfoxhound_fox

Based on what exactly?

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]

We can't both be right.

chessmaster1989

'kay, for the record, the Greek gods are much cooler than the Egyptian gods :P.

All hail almighty Zeus!

Thats BS

Anubis> Zeus

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]
You know, ST, I have a question: why don't you believe Jesus was the Messiah? I am honestly curious.

Crushmaster

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]neither of you are, personaly i believe the egyptian gods to be the true gods :P, thats old school right there, jesus is new school, just a carbon copy of the old school, and stolen holidaysDutch_Mix

Based on what exactly?

Based on the fact that when i go to their altars they give me stat bonuses. What does Jesus do when i show up at church? NOTHING.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]Is Catholicism derived from Jesus Christ? Do Catholics profess a belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ?

Crushmaster

I'm not even going to argue with you anymore. As an Atheist you have offended me immensly. A Cult Religion from Satan himself? Whatever dude. I hope someday you'll cast off your double think and your self inflicted nerousis.

So before protestantism or your fundamentlism did the majority of people in catholic and islamic countries go to hell? How could they have known that their religion was wrong? I don't recall Protestism being a direct result of Jesus's teachings. If I recall it came AFTER Catholism.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"] neither of you are, personaly i believe the egyptian gods to be the true gods :P, thats old school right there, jesus is new school, just a carbon copy of the old school, and stolen holidays

Ingenemployee

'kay, for the record, the Greek gods are much cooler than the Egyptian gods :P.

All hail almighty Zeus!

Thats BS

Anubis> Zeus

No way! Zeus would own Anubis in a fight any day 8).

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

[QUOTE="DarkSmokeNinja"]

I also know that he's going to come back again.

DarkSmokeNinja

How do you know this?

Who told you?

What makes you think it's a credible source?

Based on what exactly?Dutch_Mix

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]Your morality? Really? Have you ever lied, lusted, stolen, had evil thoughts? Crushmaster

Of course he has. Of course I have. We all have done evil in life, whether we want to admit to it or not. Including, despite your holier-than-thou attitude, yourself. You have no right to pass theological judgement on a human being, much as I have no right to pass theological judgement on a human being because you ARE human. You are flawed, just as I am, just as Jesus was, just as the authors of the Bible were, and just as every single human prophet, Christian or otherwise, was.

[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]

We can't both be right.

chessmaster1989

'kay, for the record, the Greek gods are much cooler than the Egyptian gods :P.

All hail almighty Zeus!

Japanese gods > Greek gods

i win

[QUOTE="DarkSmokeNinja"]

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

How do you know this?

Who told you?

swazidoughman

What makes you think it's a credible source?

The Catholic Church teaches faith + works. Not just works. Also, members of said church are taught to back up their faith with works in order to have fully satisfied the Law of God. Do you disagree with that?

I'm still waiting for a reply to my previous post, Crush.Dutch_Mix

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]Is Catholicism derived from Jesus Christ? Do Catholics profess a belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ?

IndigoSunrise

I'm not even going to argue with you anymore. As an Atheist you have offended me immensly. A Cult Religion from Satan himself? Whatever dude. I hope someday you'll cast off your double think and your self inflicted nerousis.

So before protestantism or your fundamentlism did the majority of people in catholic and islamic countries go to hell? How could they have known that their religion was wrong? I don't recall Protestism being a direct result of Jesus's teachings. If I recall it came AFTER Catholism.

Indeed, Protestantism in general was another interpretation of the Bible. The same type of activity (because the Bible, as he claims, is theological truth) he is so far against.

[QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"]My best freind isdeciding if he wants to become a Catholic preist or not. Are you saying he is not a Christian? He is the most devout Christian I have ever known. How dare you. You don't get to decide who is a Christian and who is not just because of slight theological disagreement.

Catholisim and Protestantism are both Christianity. They are both Christianity with some differences. Stop being an elitist.

Crushmaster