Do you consider the Lord Of The Rings trilogy a modern film classic?

Do you? Please say why. :D

No. I think they're terrible films.

To visualise such an extensive series of novels like that with great artistic flair while maintaining the subtext of the stories, like the character relationships, as well as the main plot points, was an extraordinary achievement. I am sure there were plenty of naysayers who thought it couldn't be done. The director too is an unlikely hero. This is the guy who made horror films with budgets so low he had to mold the masks of the monsters in his mothers oven. All three - though they have their strengths and weaknesses - are definitely modern classics.

Of course it is. because I will show it to my kids, just like my parents showed me star wars...

For sure. They're like the Lawrence of Arabia of our time. Completely epic, and not in the overused sense of the word :).

No I dont. Film classics push or introduce something new to the art of film, and I dont feel that Lord of the Rings did anything to contribute to the artform in any significant way. They were well produced blockbuster entertainments, and great adaptations, but nothing that I consider a film classic.

In fact, I think Avatar will be remembered far more as a classic than LOTR in the years to come.

To visualise such an extensive series of novels like that with great artistic flair while maintaining the subtext of the stories, like the character relationships, as well as the main plot points, was an extraordinary achievement. I am sure there were plenty of naysayers who thought it couldn't be done. The director too is an unlikely hero. This is the guy who made horror films with budgets so low he had to mold the masks of the monsters in his mothers oven. All three - though they have their strengths and weaknesses - are definitely modern classics.

biggest_loser

Sure. It's very well crafted movies that brings the world to life.LJS9502_basic

[spoiler] Not that I disagree with you in everything; just an agreement I felt like pointing out... [/spoiler]

I find them to be a great technical achievement and visually rich, but overall I found the story to be dull and plodding much like the novels despite the great editing down of the story in general. I would probably still expose them to my children if I chose to have them however as I'm quite a large fan of the fantasy genre in general and there just aren't that many well crafted fantasy movies out there.

No I dont. Film classics push or introduce something new to the art of film, and I dont feel that Lord of the Rings did anything to contribute to the artform in any significant way. They were well produced blockbuster entertainments, and great adaptations, but nothing that I consider a film classic.

In fact, I think Avatar will be remembered far more as a classic than LOTR in the years to come.

Samurai_Xavier

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Sure. It's very well crafted movies that brings the world to life.Teenaged

No I dont. Film classics push or introduce something new to the art of film, and I dont feel that Lord of the Rings did anything to contribute to the artform in any significant way. They were well produced blockbuster entertainments, and great adaptations, but nothing that I consider a film classic.

In fact, I think Avatar will be remembered far more as a classic than LOTR in the years to come.

Samurai_Xavier

In fact, I think Avatar will be remembered far more as a classic than LOTR in the years to come.

Samurai_Xavier

Absolutely.

No doubt

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No I dont. Film classics push or introduce something new to the art of film, and I dont feel that Lord of the Rings did anything to contribute to the artform in any significant way. They were well produced blockbuster entertainments, and great adaptations, but nothing that I consider a film classic.

In fact, I think Avatar will be remembered far more as a classic than LOTR in the years to come.

Teenaged

Its pretty obvious. Its what the art of film is all about. Its a visual art, and Avatar did something no movie has ever done visually. This is why the film is getting tremendous amounts of praise from some critics. It might change the film industry forever.

Avatar gets the hate for its familiar story, but thats not what the movie is about. Its about the incredible experience of the visuals. I guarantee you, Avatar is going to be bigger than LOTR in the years to come.

Absolutely.

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No I dont. Film classics push or introduce something new to the art of film, and I dont feel that Lord of the Rings did anything to contribute to the artform in any significant way. They were well produced blockbuster entertainments, and great adaptations, but nothing that I consider a film classic.

In fact, I think Avatar will be remembered far more as a classic than LOTR in the years to come.

Samurai_Xavier

Its pretty obvious. Its what the art of film is all about. Its a visual art, and Avatar did something no movie has ever done visually. This is why the film is getting tremendous amounts of praise from some critics. It might change the film industry forever.

Avatar gets the hate for its familiar story, but thats not what the movie is about. Its about the incredible experience of the visuals. I guarantee you, Avatar is going to be bigger than LOTR in the years to come.

Besides lets not forget that Avatar utilises 3D projection, something which was not widespread when LOTR came out 8-6 years ago.

They are as good as the books so yes, however overall im not really a big fan of LOTR.

To visualise such an extensive series of novels like that with great artistic flair while maintaining the subtext of the stories, like the character relationships, as well as the main plot points, was an extraordinary achievement. I am sure there were plenty of naysayers who thought it couldn't be done. The director too is an unlikely hero. This is the guy who made horror films with budgets so low he had to mold the masks of the monsters in his mothers oven. All three - though they have their strengths and weaknesses - are definitely modern classics.

biggest_loser

This. Except the wrong statement that's bolded. He made his masterpiece, Heavenly Creatures, before he did The Lord of the Rings.

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[QUOTE="Teenaged"] And Avatar pushed or introduced something new to the art of film? What would that be?Teenaged

Its pretty obvious. Its what the art of film is all about. Its a visual art, and Avatar did something no movie has ever done visually. This is why the film is getting tremendous amounts of praise from some critics. It might change the film industry forever.

Avatar gets the hate for its familiar story, but thats not what the movie is about. Its about the incredible experience of the visuals. I guarantee you, Avatar is going to be bigger than LOTR in the years to come.

Besides lets not forget that Avatar utilises 3D projection, something which was not widespread when LOTR came out 8-6 years ago.

Whether it was praised the same or more is irrelevant. Avatar has done more for filmmaking than any film in a long, long time.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

Its pretty obvious. Its what the art of film is all about. Its a visual art, and Avatar did something no movie has ever done visually. This is why the film is getting tremendous amounts of praise from some critics. It might change the film industry forever.

Avatar gets the hate for its familiar story, but thats not what the movie is about. Its about the incredible experience of the visuals. I guarantee you, Avatar is going to be bigger than LOTR in the years to come.

Samurai_Xavier

Besides lets not forget that Avatar utilises 3D projection, something which was not widespread when LOTR came out 8-6 years ago.

Whether it was praised the same or more is irrelevant. Avatar has done more for filmmaking than any film in a long, long time.

Unless you would like to add a "imo" in your post.

One of the few book to film adaptions that managed the translation to screen whilst keeping the integrity of the books in line, and since those books are the LOTR trilogy then we can agree that the movies are very good, and dare I say, a modern classic.Im_single

You are the one who mentioned praise from critics. LOTR received equivalent praise from critics as well. Pretty simple.

Teenaged

The Lord of the Rings received way more praise than Avatar. Just pointing that out.

:)

Whether it was praised the same or more is irrelevant. Avatar has done more for filmmaking than any film in a long, long time.

Samurai_Xavier

Ugh anyway it'd be stupid to have a "serious" debate over such a matter as LOTR or movie preferences in general.

Anyway...

Whether it was praised the same or more is irrelevant. Avatar has done more for filmmaking than any film in a long, long time.Samurai_Xavier

While I'm really not that into LotR (books or the movies) I will say they excellently edited, filmed, and adapted. The story and format just wasn't quite my style which is why I didn't enjoy it as much as many other people did. Though in there own right they are modern film classics.

yes i do, brilliant movies

No. I think they're terrible films.

valgear

I'm curious to what you think are good films?

[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]Whether it was praised the same or more is irrelevant. Avatar has done more for filmmaking than any film in a long, long time.

LJS9502_basic

Directors probably want to try out these effects and such, but that's about it.

Cameron stole two stories from books, then merged them together to create Avatar, what a "director".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_Me_Joe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jesus_Incident

definately, i just finished watching the 10 hour movie total just last week by the way haha

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[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]Whether it was praised the same or more is irrelevant. Avatar has done more for filmmaking than any film in a long, long time.

CBR600-RR

Directors probably want to try out these effects and such, but that's about it.

Cameron stole two stories from books, then merged them together to create Avatar, what a "director".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_Me_Joe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jesus_Incident

Say whatever you will about Cameron, but the man is a marketing genius. How else do you get two films in the two highest grossing spots in history.

Saying that the books are better than the movies is totally unnecessary, but as adaptations the movies are absolutely astonishing. Everyone involved in the trilogy did a great job and showed great respect for Tolkien's work.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] What exactly has Avatar done for film?

MystikFollower

Directors probably want to try out these effects and such, but that's about it.

Cameron stole two stories from books, then merged them together to create Avatar, what a "director".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_Me_Joe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jesus_Incident

Say whatever you will about Cameron, but the man is a marketing genius. How else do you get two films in the two highest grossing spots in history.

HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Say whatever you will about Cameron, but the man is a marketing genius. How else do you get two films in the two highest grossing spots in history.

MystikFollower

Yes, marketing genius, he should do marketing, not directing, he's not good enough. I thought Avatar was 7/10 at best.

[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]Whether it was praised the same or more is irrelevant. Avatar has done more for filmmaking than any film in a long, long time.

LJS9502_basic

Did you see the movie? Do you understand the way it was made?

I wouldnt be surprised if the Academy didnt give Cameron an Special Achievement Academy Award just for making this film (the same Award given to Toy Story).

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[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]Whether it was praised the same or more is irrelevant. Avatar has done more for filmmaking than any film in a long, long time.

CBR600-RR

Directors probably want to try out these effects and such, but that's about it.

Cameron stole two stories from books, then merged them together to create Avatar, what a "director".