Do you drink liquor? Anyone else here giving up liquor?

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#51  Edited By mrbojangles25
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@mrbojangles25:"This is not alcohol's fault, however, nor is it the person's."

So you won't blame food/people for obesity?

I specifically used the word "fault" instead of responsibility. When you play the blame game, you just end up making things worse. People have problems, and people need help. That's where it should end. Obviously we should look at the cause, but blame? Nah.

As a fat person myself, I have struggled with losing weight pretty much my whole life. My parents raised me to be ashamed of it, they were always hard truth/tough love types. "It's your fault" and stuff like that. It wasn't until I shed that mentality of blame, shame, and basically feeling like shit (and also hitting rock bottom) that I have been able to shed a lot of weight these past couple months.

Is it an alcoholics fault they're an alcoholic? I don't know, that depends on you and your connotation of the word. I don't think it's their fault; while I won't use excuses, I won't be so ignorant as to deny that there are numerous factors outside of a person's basic will that influence their addiction (be it food or alcohol or other drugs), either: upbringing, environment, genetics...all contribute to someone's problems.

Feeling bad will get you no where. Feeling like you are "at fault" will make you feel bad.

Neuroplasticity is your friend. Think good thoughts...do good actions...receive chemical reward in your brain....repeat.

Or you could do the opposite. Think bad thoughts about self...release stress hormones...seek exterior reward (food, alcohol, drugs)...feel worse about self than before...repeat.

Is it denial? I don't know. That's what my mom said, but then I lost about 50 pounds in three months while she is still having weight problems of her own, so we will just have to see :D hashtagfeelingsmugaboutyourvictoryisokthough.

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#52 Celldrax
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I'm drunk at this exact moment. Regularly drink throughout the week.

I couldn't cut out alcohol though. My life is too uneventful and boring to do that.

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#53 theone86
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13 Months sober. I should have quit a while ago, but I just wasn't ready.

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@LJS9502_basic: that’s one thing about pg I like. It’s not so much cliques, as is people with similar beliefs defending their views against the same people with opposing views. The conservatives are pretty uniform, but the liberals will rip each other apart hahaha.....very telling of society today!

I've only seen a liberal rip another liberal in PG once, and in my humble opinion it was very well deserved.

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#54  Edited By Mercenary848
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@theone86: Congrats on the year, what triggered the sobriety?

Also I feel like there really aren’t any true liberals in pg. I have seen so many people get called libtardfor just expressing opinions that weren’t right wing craziness. I won’t lie I fall on the left a lot, but the conservatives in pg make me seem like a crazy hippie when I debate them lol(I know you can relate)

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#55 theone86
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@Mercenary848 said:

@theone86: Congrats on the year, what triggered the sobriety?

Also I feel like there really aren’t any true liberals in pg. I have seen so many people get called libtardfor just expressing opinions that weren’t right wing craziness. I won’t lie I fall on the left a lot, but the conservatives in pg make me seem like a crazy hippie when I debate them lol(I know you can relate)

I just had a heavy drinking night where I realized it was stopping me from doing what I wanted to do. It's kind of ironic, I've blacked out at least half a dozen times and had plenty of other incidents that should have been wake-up calls, but it was a pretty mild night in comparison that made me want to quit. I kinda miss it sometimes, but I don't regret it. I regret drinking that night more.

Don't get me started. When I first came back to PG my attitude was to be more conciliatory and have more conversations rather than arguments, that didn't last long. I just snapped on someone the other day for calling a center-left publication a crazy, far-left rag, and I don't regret it. I am so over people trying to defang liberal arguments by calling all but the most centrist arguments far-left.

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#56 Mercenary848
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@theone86 said:
@Mercenary848 said:

@theone86: Congrats on the year, what triggered the sobriety?

Also I feel like there really aren’t any true liberals in pg. I have seen so many people get called libtardfor just expressing opinions that weren’t right wing craziness. I won’t lie I fall on the left a lot, but the conservatives in pg make me seem like a crazy hippie when I debate them lol(I know you can relate)

I just had a heavy drinking night where I realized it was stopping me from doing what I wanted to do. It's kind of ironic, I've blacked out at least half a dozen times and had plenty of other incidents that should have been wake-up calls, but it was a pretty mild night in comparison that made me want to quit. I kinda miss it sometimes, but I don't regret it. I regret drinking that night more.

Don't get me started. When I first came back to PG my attitude was to be more conciliatory and have more conversations rather than arguments, that didn't last long. I just snapped on someone the other day for calling a center-left publication a crazy, far-left rag, and I don't regret it. I am so over people trying to defang liberal arguments by calling all but the most centrist arguments far-left.

I hear that. My drinkin will def reduce when I start school this sept, but I dont know how much I will cut alcohol out.

Lol pg is a freaking quagmire of rightwing insecurity. Everyone got ticked off at me for going off, but if you try to be nice then they woulld just cuss you out and expect you to smile.

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#57 leafs_ducks
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i used to be a big drinker, at the bar almost everyday with friends.

now that i'm married and have a kid, i only drink a beer or two

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#58 theone86
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@Mercenary848 said:
@theone86 said:
@Mercenary848 said:

@theone86: Congrats on the year, what triggered the sobriety?

Also I feel like there really aren’t any true liberals in pg. I have seen so many people get called libtardfor just expressing opinions that weren’t right wing craziness. I won’t lie I fall on the left a lot, but the conservatives in pg make me seem like a crazy hippie when I debate them lol(I know you can relate)

I just had a heavy drinking night where I realized it was stopping me from doing what I wanted to do. It's kind of ironic, I've blacked out at least half a dozen times and had plenty of other incidents that should have been wake-up calls, but it was a pretty mild night in comparison that made me want to quit. I kinda miss it sometimes, but I don't regret it. I regret drinking that night more.

Don't get me started. When I first came back to PG my attitude was to be more conciliatory and have more conversations rather than arguments, that didn't last long. I just snapped on someone the other day for calling a center-left publication a crazy, far-left rag, and I don't regret it. I am so over people trying to defang liberal arguments by calling all but the most centrist arguments far-left.

I hear that. My drinkin will def reduce when I start school this sept, but I dont know how much I will cut alcohol out.

Lol pg is a freaking quagmire of rightwing insecurity. Everyone got ticked off at me for going off, but if you try to be nice then they woulld just cuss you out and expect you to smile.

The new right wing: be as vile and offensive as possible, when confronted call it a joke, brag that your entire mission in life is to piss off liberals, but when a liberal dares say something bad about something you like or, god forbid, actually responds with some fire in their belly cry like a baby and lament the death of civility.