Do you ever feel bad for the villains in films/games?

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#1 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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I've always wondered what motivates the villain henchmen in a lot of these games and movies. They've just seen the protagonist/hero effortlessly cut through legions of their fellow conspirators - usually in explicitly gruesome detail. Most rational thinking people would run for the hills or at least soil themselves. Yet what do they do? Do they run? No. They stay and fight the hero and then die horribly. But imagine the courage to do that. To stand and fight for your evil convictions despite knowing that you have no chance of survival. I think we should all look at these guys in a new light and respect and honor their valor and commitment.

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#2 speedfog
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I never tought about that before... Yes :D.

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#3 themajormayor
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Sometimes I support when the heroes really sucks. Can't think of an example right now but yeah. Like in tom & jerry I always support tom.

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#4 JigglyWiggly_
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Like in Bambi, the hunter got to feed him and his family.
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#5 turtlethetaffer
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I never root for the bad guys, but there are times where I feel bad. For instance, in Deus Ex HR, I felt bad killing a bunch of guys. I looked at the side mission where you need to figure out your gf's death for her mom, and it made me realize something. No matter how bad the bad guys are (actually most of them weren't even bad, they were just doing their jobs) they are all sons to someone. They have loved ones. And killing them traumatizes people. So yes occasionally I feel bad for the general bad guy.

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#6 THE_DRUGGIE
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Like in Bambi, the hunter got to feed him and his family. JigglyWiggly_

Who's to say the hunter didn't just skin Bambi's mom to make a deer suit so he could seduce bucks?

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I felt bad for the hyenas in The Lion King since their badness mostly came out of being hungry.

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#8 StarKiller77000
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Yes I do.Mostly because I have more In common with the villain than I do with the hero.

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#9 PS2_ROCKS
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MGS comes to mind here. Seriously after most the boss fights you felt bad for them. Especially The Boss. So sad...
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#10 TChaivong
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Darth Vader. He grew up without a father, His mother was kidnapped and tortured by aliens from another planet, He gets third degree burns all over his body and has to wear a respirator, Wife dies, and his reunion with his son wasn't all nice and dandy...yea

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#11 parkurtommo
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yes.

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#12 GazaAli
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All the time, I always want them to win but they never do.
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#13 -Sun_Tzu-
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Whenever I get the opportunity I am the bad guy in games
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#14 Allicrombie
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I feel bad for xaos and rawsavon. Does that count?? >.>
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#15 -Sun_Tzu-
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I feel bad for xaos and rawsavon. Does that count?? >.>Allicrombie
lol
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I feel bad for xaos and rawsavon. Does that count?? >.>Allicrombie
:nice:
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#17 Allicrombie
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[QUOTE="Allicrombie"]I feel bad for xaos and rawsavon. Does that count?? >.>Jandurin
:nice:

You would have been on the list too, but I simply cant feel bad for someone with such a righteous beard.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Allicrombie"]I feel bad for xaos and rawsavon. Does that count?? >.>Allicrombie
:nice:

You would have been on the list too, but I simply cant feel bad for someone with such a righteous beard.

i would feel bad for me too, sans beard
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#19 dercoo
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Sometimes

For example, the recent Thor movie, I actually felt bad for Loke

He needed to be stoppe, but still felt bad for him

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#20 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Sometimes

For example, the recent Thor movie, I actually felt bad for Loke

He needed to be stoppe, but still felt bad for him

dercoo
in the recent thor movie i felt bad for the entire cast especially the old dude that had to follow natalie portman's orders he's the only one of them that could act at all
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#21 GazaAli
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[QUOTE="dercoo"]

Sometimes

For example, the recent Thor movie, I actually felt bad for Loke

He needed to be stoppe, but still felt bad for him

Jandurin
in the recent thor movie i felt bad for the entire cast especially the old dude that had to follow natalie portman's orders he's the only one of them that could act at all

oh you.
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#22 MissLibrarian
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Oh wow don't say it often
But this thread

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#23 LJS9502_basic
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Sometimes when the heroes are bad.....
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#24 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Sometimes I support when the heroes really sucks. Can't think of an example right now but yeah. Like in tom & jerry I always support tom.

themajormayor

LOL, i used to root for Tom, too.

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#25 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

Sometimes I support when the heroes really sucks. Can't think of an example right now but yeah. Like in tom & jerry I always support tom.

sonicare

LOL, i used to root for Tom, too.

I support Sylvester the Cat. I hate Tweety.

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#26 Kelayr
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LOL, i used to root for Tom, too.sonicare
Wile E. Coyote as well for me - I disliked the Road Runner with a passion!
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#27 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="sonicare"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

Sometimes I support when the heroes really sucks. Can't think of an example right now but yeah. Like in tom & jerry I always support tom.

GreySeal9

LOL, i used to root for Tom, too.

I support Sylvester the Cat. I hate Tweety.

I have often wished Sylvester would eat that bird.....
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#28 lonewolf604
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I always root for anti-heroes.
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#29 Stavrogin_
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I always root for the bad guys, those cliched morally incorruptible heroes are just plain boring...
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#30 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="sonicare"] LOL, i used to root for Tom, too.

LJS9502_basic

I support Sylvester the Cat. I hate Tweety.

I have often wished Sylvester would eat that bird.....

Indeed, tho it would be advisable for him to cut Tweety in pieces before eating him because Tweety's head is so ginormous.

Oh wait. It's a cartoon. Never mind.

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[QUOTE="sonicare"]LOL, i used to root for Tom, too.silentexistence
Wile E. Coyote as well for me - I disliked the Road Runner with a passion!

I think the sympathy for these predators arises because the "prey" can't just preserve their lives with dignity and class. :lol: For some reason, they have to be annoying pricks about it.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I support Sylvester the Cat. I hate Tweety.

GreySeal9

I have often wished Sylvester would eat that bird.....

Indeed, tho it would be advisable for him to cut Tweety in pieces before eating him because Tweety's head is so ginormous.

Oh wait. It's a cartoon. Never mind.

He swallowed Tweety whole on more than one occasion, but the old lady never let him keep the bird down. If it wasn't for her Tweety would've been dead ages ago.
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I have often wished Sylvester would eat that bird.....PS2_ROCKS

Indeed, tho it would be advisable for him to cut Tweety in pieces before eating him because Tweety's head is so ginormous.

Oh wait. It's a cartoon. Never mind.

He swallowed Tweety whole on more than one occasion, but the old lady never let him keep the bird down. If it wasn't for her Tweety would've been dead ages ago.

F*** that lady!

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[QUOTE="sonicare"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

Sometimes I support when the heroes really sucks. Can't think of an example right now but yeah. Like in tom & jerry I always support tom.

GreySeal9

LOL, i used to root for Tom, too.

I support Sylvester the Cat. I hate Tweety.

Good call. And someone mentioned Wil E. Coyote. Another good one. I always rooted for them. Futile, but still felt right. Lol.

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[QUOTE="sonicare"]LOL, i used to root for Tom, too.silentexistence
Wile E. Coyote as well for me - I disliked the Road Runner with a passion!

Oh man, same here the only bad guy that I didn't like was the duck guy, forgot his name :P
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#36 Ace6301
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No can't say I do. I do enjoy the villain quite often though. But the villains I enjoy tend to be the kind you can't feel sorry for.
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#37 Gibsonsg527
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I always felt sorry for Tom in Tom and Jerry for some reason.

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liquid will always be with me.....

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Only when they change and still end up getting screwed. :P
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#40 branketra
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Imagine what would happen if they ran back to their villainous boss.
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#41 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Squidward in Spongebob is kinda portrayed negativly. One day I want him to just rip off spongebob's face and and use it in the shower.

I know filthy, but Spongebob is so damn annoying.

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Law Abiding Citizen. Letters to Iwo Jima/Flags of our Fathers as a combination. Lonesome Road fallout:NV DLC. The Green Mile. Those are a few movies where both good guys and bad guys, can easily be switched around. You can see both sides. So sure.
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Law Abiding Citizen. Letters to Iwo Jima/Flags of our Fathers as a combination. Lonesome Road fallout:NV DLC. The Green Mile. Those are a few movies where both good guys and bad guys, can easily be switched around. You can see both sides. So sure.CreasianDevaili

Gerard Butler(sp?)? that guy was an ahole, he deserved to get killed.

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[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"]Law Abiding Citizen. Letters to Iwo Jima/Flags of our Fathers as a combination. Lonesome Road fallout:NV DLC. The Green Mile. Those are a few movies where both good guys and bad guys, can easily be switched around. You can see both sides. So sure.lbjkurono23

Gerard Butler(sp?)? that guy was an ahole, he deserved to get killed.

Not really an **** He started off killing only the ones who did wrong to begin with. It wasn't until the very end where it would have reached past it. Plus giving that the justice system is kind of like a game I do not think he was an **** Even when he took out most of the district attorney's office. Plus I figured he always knew he was going to die for it. So he made a bunch of people die for their decisions. Which would of let a child killer murder his buddy and get off mostly free. ...so...?
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Sometimes, but it has to be a good villain of course.
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MGS comes to mind here. Seriously after most the boss fights you felt bad for them. Especially The Boss. So sad...PS2_ROCKS
I was going to post the same thing. I'm gonna sue. :(
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[QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]MGS comes to mind here. Seriously after most the boss fights you felt bad for them. Especially The Boss. So sad...lancea34
I was going to post the same thing. I'm gonna sue. :(

The Boss wasn't a villain. She was doing her duty. At face value, she was the villain, but that's not the whole story. So, it's inaccurate. I didn't feel bad for all of them, but I did feel like I could relate to some of them. They had emotion.
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[QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]MGS comes to mind here. Seriously after most the boss fights you felt bad for them. Especially The Boss. So sad...lancea34
I was going to post the same thing. I'm gonna sue. :(

Big Boss was even sadder, honestly.

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Law Abiding Citizen. Letters to Iwo Jima/Flags of our Fathers as a combination. Lonesome Road fallout:NV DLC. The Green Mile. Those are a few movies where both good guys and bad guys, can easily be switched around. You can see both sides. So sure.CreasianDevaili
yeah i agree with Law abiding citizen, great movie, was cheering for the villain in that movie. Which i never do
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[QUOTE="CreasianDevaili"]Law Abiding Citizen. Letters to Iwo Jima/Flags of our Fathers as a combination. Lonesome Road fallout:NV DLC. The Green Mile. Those are a few movies where both good guys and bad guys, can easily be switched around. You can see both sides. So sure.The_Last_Ride
yeah i agree with Law abiding citizen, great movie, was cheering for the villain in that movie. Which i never do

:| Why? Looking past the vengence part, he not only killed both men that murdered his family.. He tortured them to death.. Then he started killing tons of innocent people, from the defence lawyer, to the judges.. I mean really..