Do you feel safe not believing in god?

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#101 hiphops_savior
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[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]This is my view on the situation - if God is as great as believers say he is, and if I live as good a life as I can and do my best to leave future generations a better world, then I think that me merely not believing and/or worshiping in him shouldn't be of any significance, and if he is so narcissistic that he actually condemns all those who merely don't believe and/or worship him, regardless of how the condemned actually live their lives - why would I even want to be in heaven with an entity like that? How great could heaven actually be if God were actually like that? bionicle_lover

Maybe the answer why is in the very post you wrote. Maybe the very people who think they did good deeds and did their part in making the world a better place for their future generations are the ones going to hell for their foolish pride. Maybe the reason why people are going to hell is because they don't want to go to heaven to begin with. If you don't think heaven is great, God isn't forcing you to go there. Therefore, you cannot blame God for sending people to hell when they only go themselves to blame.

Why is there only hell as a second option? What is wrong with pride in doing a good job if the pride hurts no one, but the resulting actions only help? Maybe they dont want to go to heaven, so they have to go to hell? a place of eternal suffering? God isnt forcing you to choose heaven, unless you dont like torture, that's the way i see the "option" of choosing heaven. unless there is somewhere in between. Like purgatory? but isnt that stage only transitory until you get sentenced to one of the above? if not, then cool, i guess people can just hang there with their buddies.

now i feel a need to relate back to the main topic at hand so not as to get into a debate about a specific religion... i'd probably be even more scared if i believed in a god, even more so if it were the God of hell and heaven.

Purgatory is not a belief held by almost all Christians except for Catholics and thus is a man-made concept. Pride can lead to boasting, and yet, Christian beliefs teaches that man is hopeless without God. The whole concept of salvation is based on man accepting that he cannot be saved by their own efforts, but must need Jesus' help to get salvation. A person is saved once they received God and start to learn to rely on Him to make them a better person by changing them from within. Hell is does not have fire, it is a place where it is completely forsaken by God. If a person is forced into heaven against their will, not only would that no longer make heaven a utopia, but it also makes it a hell for the person themselves. Back to the main topic, I feel very safe in believing God, but I'm also depressed in how people can be so prideful that they feel that because of their own efforts, they don't need God.
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#102 supergt1
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I believe in god and I feel safe.
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#103 coolbeans90
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Well, I do believe in God. Not really sure how safety plays into it though. Fear of eternal damnation isn't the most convincing argument I've heard. A lot of religions claim that theirs is the only one that can "save" the soul from hell.

On that note I am not sure how harshly God will judge based upon faith. "If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." Corinthians 13:2

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#104 black_cat19
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Purgatory is not a belief held by almost all Christians except for Catholics and thus is a man-made concept. hiphops_savior

That is some lovely logic you have there...

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#105 mephie25
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[QUOTE="mephie25"]

I used to not believe in god. Thought it was all bunk, thought I felt safe at the time. Then I grew up.

BumFluff122

So you grew up and began believing in something that you read from a book of fiction? I don't think that's called growing up...

What the hell are you talking about? I didnt mention a book of any kind. Yes, I grew up, it was childish to think there was no god.
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#106 XturnalS
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Yep. I live my life and enjoy it quite well. I've come to terms with my mortality and am content with the finality of it. I don't need to serve anyone to feel safe.

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#107 BumFluff122
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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

[QUOTE="mephie25"]

I used to not believe in god. Thought it was all bunk, thought I felt safe at the time. Then I grew up.

mephie25

So you grew up and began believing in something that you read from a book of fiction? I don't think that's called growing up...

What the hell are you talking about? I didnt mention a book of any kind. Yes, I grew up, it was childish to think there was no god.

Why is it childish may I ask?

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#108 Devil-Itachi
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Yes I feel safe not believing in god. I feel if there really is a god he wouldn't be so petty to give eternal punishment for not believing.
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#109 supa_badman
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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

[QUOTE="mephie25"][QUOTE="BumFluff122"]So you grew up and began believing in something that you read from a book of fiction? I don't think that's called growing up...

What the hell are you talking about? I didnt mention a book of any kind. Yes, I grew up, it was childish to think there was no god.

Why is it childish may I ask?

If the guy believes he believes. >_> Is it childish to believe there is one? Is that you're trying to get at?
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#110 BumFluff122
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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

[QUOTE="mephie25"] What the hell are you talking about? I didnt mention a book of any kind. Yes, I grew up, it was childish to think there was no god.supa_badman

Why is it childish may I ask?

If the guy believes he believes. >_> Is it childish to believe there is one? Is that you're trying to get at?

No. Me saying that was a reference to his prvious post that I answered. He stated that the non-belief in a God is childish. What exactly makes somethign childish to state that you do not believe it is there if there is no evidence to back up the claim? In another thread it states somethign similar to "God is beyond our comprehension." If he is beyond our comprehension then why believe in him in the first place?