do you have pride in your country OT?

well with the world cup comming up i thought about how the fans are so true to their country

so i ask OT do you have pride in your country

do you support some descisions that your country makes, even though it may not be the best one in the long run?

if there was a war tomarow would you be on the frontlines with a rife in your hands?

please explain why you are or not

(keep disscussion clean please)

i like Canada so yeah

i like Canada so yeah

T_REX305

well hello canada my countrys neighbor to the north!!! lol i hate when people say that!

I sure do. I live in America. I use the resources here. No matter it's historic, current, or future negatives, I have pride because it is my home. To be to the point, even if another country went against us and for all purposes the reasoning was "true and of virtue", i'd still fight them defending my less than "true and of virtue" home to the bitter end.

No, I can't say that I have "pride". I'm glad I live in America, and I like a lot of things about it, but I can't pride myself for simply being born in a certain area. I did nothing to achieve this place, why would I be proud?

Yes, I am proud of the Great White North

Yes!..

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I live in the U.S. and overall I don't mind living here. I actually kind of like it. It has as many pros as it has cons. However, I wouldn't say that I have "pride." I like living here, but I'm not proud of where I happened to be born. I had no choice over it. I don't go nuts for patriotism, but I also don't shun my country. I like it here but I don't go nuts.t3hrubikscube

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I'm sure it's safe to say that most have pride and would fight for their country of origin be it they are right or wrong. Just as most would fight for their family

I live in the U.S. and overall I don't mind living here. I actually kind of like it. It has as many pros as it has cons. However, I wouldn't say that I have "pride." I like living here, but I'm not proud of where I happened to be born. I had no choice over it. I don't go nuts for patriotism, but I also don't shun my country. I like it here but I don't go nuts.t3hrubikscube

if you some how had a choice to be born in any country would you still want to be born in the US or another country?

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"]I live in the U.S. and overall I don't mind living here. I actually kind of like it. It has as many pros as it has cons. However, I wouldn't say that I have "pride." I like living here, but I'm not proud of where I happened to be born. I had no choice over it. I don't go nuts for patriotism, but I also don't shun my country. I like it here but I don't go nuts.Astrapsody

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I do... well did anyway... sometimes... meh, I just don't know anymore...67gt500

what country do you live in?

if you dont mind me asking

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"]I live in the U.S. and overall I don't mind living here. I actually kind of like it. It has as many pros as it has cons. However, I wouldn't say that I have "pride." I like living here, but I'm not proud of where I happened to be born. I had no choice over it. I don't go nuts for patriotism, but I also don't shun my country. I like it here but I don't go nuts.diegosanchezMMA

if you some hoe had a choice to be born in any country would you still want to be born in the US or another country?

Yes!..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

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[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"]I live in the U.S. and overall I don't mind living here. I actually kind of like it. It has as many pros as it has cons. However, I wouldn't say that I have "pride." I like living here, but I'm not proud of where I happened to be born. I had no choice over it. I don't go nuts for patriotism, but I also don't shun my country. I like it here but I don't go nuts.t3hrubikscube

if you some hoe had a choice to be born in any country would you still want to be born in the US or another country?

yes i agree i myself feel iffy about the US but i to have little time in any other countrys but canada and US, i mean i been to canada like 32479417049 times i live an hour away from there.

i guess it would be interesting to be born some where else like, greece or brazil or something idk

[QUOTE="T_REX305"]

i like Canada so yeah

diegosanchezMMA

well hello canada my countrys neighbor to the north!!! lol i hate when people say that!

btw do Americans think we live in igloos??? i though it was just a good old joke till i went to America on boxing day...
I felt unwanted and ppl were saying eh a lot... :|

anyway Canada and US still rocks!!!

I'm sure it's safe to say that most have pride and would fight for their country of origin be it they are right or wrong. Just as most would fight for their family

bshanholtzer

i can roll with that, but there are some who wished they lived some where else you know?

yes i agree i myself feel iffy about the US but i to have little time in any other countrys but canada and US, i mean i been to canada like 32479417049 times i live an hour away from there.

i guess it would be interesting to be born some where else like, greece or brazil or something idk

diegosanchezMMA

It is interesting to think about what it'd be like had you been born in a different country. Of course it seems weird since you're used to being from where you're from, but it's still interesting to consider. :)

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[QUOTE="T_REX305"]

i like Canada so yeah

T_REX305

well hello canada my countrys neighbor to the north!!! lol i hate when people say that!

btw do Americans think we live in igloos??? i though it was just a good old joke till i went to America on boxing day...
I felt unwanted and ppl were saying eh a lot... :|

anyway Canada and US still rocks!!!

i live an hour away from canada lol so i know how NORMAL it is you know, some people who live in california or texas probably dont even know canada exist, americans are ignorate

anyways yea ill go for it go canada and US...i always said if there was a war i didnt support id flee to canada lol!!

Yes I do.

No I don't, and I wouldn't be proud no matter what country I lived in. We are all the same species living on the same planet, I couldn't care less what arbitrary, imaginary lines governments draw on it.

Sometimes the notion of national pride seems so absurd to me. Especially on these forums, where people think it somehow makes them better than others or they feel all giddy when someone complements the nation they reside in. When you really think about it, it's just silly at times.

If my freedom was jeopardized then I would fight but I don't hold pride in a country itself.

I like for what certain parts of my country stand for and I hate other parts.

I don't hate the government I hate a lot of the people in the government.

I think having pride for being born in a certain country is stupid.

You are supposed to take pride in accomplishing things not for stuff that automatically happens without your choice.

I live in America and for all it's corruption I still think it's one of the best places to live.

I don't support a team just because they live where I live. I like the Dallas Cowboys but I live in California and I never liked Raiders.

[QUOTE="diegosanchezMMA"]yes i agree i myself feel iffy about the US but i to have little time in any other countrys but canada and US, i mean i been to canada like 32479417049 times i live an hour away from there.

i guess it would be interesting to be born some where else like, greece or brazil or something idk

t3hrubikscube

It is interesting to think about what it'd be like had you been born in a different country. Of course it seems weird since you're used to being from where you're from, but it's still interesting to consider. :)

yea i know

and why i asked if people had pride, when you think of it what if you were born in hati or guam or some very poor country, life would be so so so diffrent, its bizzar

No. I while I like living in the US, I don't care about it at all.

Don't mix up country and government. They're not one and the same.

[QUOTE="67gt500"]I do... well did anyway... sometimes... meh, I just don't know anymore...diegosanchezMMA

what country do you live in?

if you dont mind me asking

Don't mix up country and government. They're not one and the same.

SgtKevali

Depends upon what one means by "pride." I am impressed with the country that I reside in, (the U.S.) glad that I live here, am grateful to all who have made it as great as it is, and will gladly do my part to better it myself. If that falls within the "pride" category, I suppose so.

Don't mix up country and government. They're not one and the same.

SgtKevali

i dissagree country is government exactly, im a political science major so im sorry to strongly dissagree

your local governments effect you every day in the town you live in, resulting in how you feel about your town for example

or on a larger scale do you support the war in iraq, because governemnt allowed for this country to go at war with iraq

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

Don't mix up country and government. They're not one and the same.

diegosanchezMMA

i dissagree country is government exactly, im a political science major so im sorry to strongly dissagree

your local governments effect you every day in the town you live in, resulting in how you feel about your town for example

or on a larger scale do you support the war in iraq, because governemnt allowed for this country to go at war with iraq

I suppose it all depends on definition.

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

Don't mix up country and government. They're not one and the same.

sonicare

Agreed. I like how Samuel Clemens put it: "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it."

Yes I do.

Pirate700

could not have said it better.

My only problem with patriotism is when it's only reflected in words, rather than action.

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

Don't mix up country and government. They're not one and the same.

diegosanchezMMA

i dissagree country is government exactly, im a political science major so im sorry to strongly dissagree

your local governments effect you every day in the town you live in, resulting in how you feel about your town for example

or on a larger scale do you support the war in iraq, because governemnt allowed for this country to go at war with iraq

They most certainly are NOT the same, dude. Many political science majors I've spoken to have mention the distinct difference between the nation, and the government.

Local governments may effect everyday business, but they are not by any stretch of the imagination the only thing that effects you. A tree I don't like that i drive past everyday could make me feel different about the town, or for that matter the entirety of existence. That does not make it all that exists however.

One of the specific tasks government has is to handle international diplomacy etc. Even then, it is very difficult to say whether because a government declares war upon a nation that the whole nation is actually at war. A country is a region of land. If a "country" is at war with another one, one must either assume that all members living are at war (never the case) or that just simply the government is. Long story short, unless you want to just define "country" as "government," you are very, very mistaken.

I'm proud to live in my country, but I'm not proud of most of my country's actions.

i do. I am a dual. call two countries my home. so yeah!

There may be problems in both countries, but i still have a lot of pride, hope, love, and respect for them.

as i sometimes say with friends.. God Bless the USA and KSA.

I have tons of pride in my country.

I like being English. I'm not proud of being English per se, although I feel a sense of pride when we do something well. Alas that won't be in the world cup this time I feel. Incidentally it's the likes of the world cup and the Olympics that I find brings out the greatest patriotism in people – it's the one time where the country feels unified. After the world cup we'll all be back to belittling each other and complaining about immigrants, chavs and the weather.

[QUOTE="diegosanchezMMA"]

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

Don't mix up country and government. They're not one and the same.

coolbeans90

i dissagree country is government exactly, im a political science major so im sorry to strongly dissagree

your local governments effect you every day in the town you live in, resulting in how you feel about your town for example

or on a larger scale do you support the war in iraq, because governemnt allowed for this country to go at war with iraq

They most certainly are NOT the same, dude. Many political science majors I've spoken to have mention the distinct difference between the nation, and the government.

Local governments may effect everyday business, but they are not by any stretch of the imagination the only thing that effects you. A tree I don't like that i drive past everyday could make me feel different about the town, or for that matter the entirety of existence. That does not make it all that exists however.

One of the specific tasks government has is to handle international diplomacy etc. Even then, it is very difficult to say whether because a government declares war upon a nation that the whole nation is actually at war. A country is a region of land. If a "country" is at war with another one, one must either assume that all members living are at war (never the case) or that just simply the government is. Long story short, unless you want to just define "country" as "government," you are very, very mistaken.

governemnt effects every day life

let me ask you this then

if america was run by a dictatorship would it effect your pride in your country, would it effect your life, DUHHDUMM yes it would. why do you think people left europe and came to america. governemnt it a part of your country! i work with people who lived in cuba and left because of fidel castro and his policys and have no pride in their country

sometime's i feel like my countries overall I.Q drops every day more, they've replaced common sense with blind patriotism.

of course i'm talking about the U.S

I do... well did anyway... sometimes... meh, I just don't know anymore...67gt500

Essentially this. :?