[QUOTE="biggest_loser"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"]Yes, it's a cultural thing in Spain. I see no difference in this and a butcher.Fightingfan
Its slaughter for the sake of entertainment and spectacle as opposed to a satisfying a need like hunger? People due tend to eat the bull, just like in Puerto Rico with the Cock fights.
I believe in Spain, they feed the meat to the poor, and homeless. SO bleeding-hearts can be satisfied too.
no...spaniards should just stop it with that...here in costa rica we have bull rodeos, which are more fun and less cruel...we dont hurt the animals, we dont stap them so that they get weaker or begin to bleed out, we dont kill them after the fight...they just release a bull in a corral with a bunch of people in it and everyone just run to save their asses...heck there has actually been more human than bovine casualties in that thing...
At least the bull isnt getting grinded up in a slaughterhouse, plus they eat it after so its not a waste
Lief_Ericson
dude...in a slaughterhouse the animal dies like in 2 seconds, maybe less...in a bullfight the first thing they do is stabbing the bull a bunch of times so that he begins to bleed out, then they put him to run against the matador, which makes him bleed out way faster. after that the bull cant move anymore because of the lost of blood, so he falls to the ground, and the macho matador, thinking that he just took out a T rex single handedly, gives one final stab to the bull... how is that faster/less painful than killing the animal with a meat grinder?
At least the bull isnt getting grinded up in a slaughterhouse, plus they eat it after so its not a waste
lightleggy
dude...in a slaughterhouse the animal dies like in 2 seconds, maybe less...in a bullfight the first thing they do is stabbing the bull a bunch of times so that he begins to bleed out, then they put him to run against the matador, which makes him bleed out way faster. after that the bull cant move anymore because of the lost of blood, so he falls to the ground, and the macho matador, thinking that he just took out a T rex single handedly, gives one final stab to the bull... how is that faster/less painful than killing the animal with a meat grinder?[spoiler] sometimes the bull stabs the matador :P [/spoiler] It still has better chances than in a slaughterhouse.
Yes. The bull would end up in a slaughter house anyway.
not_wanted
Yeah but lots of other animals eat meat, in fact the human body was also made for you to eat meat. No other animal enjoys seeing other animals being tortured, besides humans.
At least the bull isnt getting grinded up in a slaughterhouse, plus they eat it after so its not a waste
lightleggy
dude...in a slaughterhouse the animal dies like in 2 seconds, maybe less...in a bullfight the first thing they do is stabbing the bull a bunch of times so that he begins to bleed out, then they put him to run against the matador, which makes him bleed out way faster. after that the bull cant move anymore because of the lost of blood, so he falls to the ground, and the macho matador, thinking that he just took out a T rex single handedly, gives one final stab to the bull... how is that faster/less painful than killing the animal with a meat grinder?I don't think killing in slaughterhouses is nearly as immediate or humane as you imagine, there are plenty of Youtube videos out there as testament to that. On top of that, it's the entire bull's life we should be comparing. It's a lovely image that all the cows you eat spend their entire lives roaming around in fields and generally having a laugh with other cows until that fateful day comes, but that's not always a realistic scenario either. I don't know anything about how bulls are kept until the fight: how well they're fed, how much space they're given, etc., but I'd hazard a guess that it's far better that the condition your average livestock cattle are held in.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not "pro" bull fighting; I just eat beef on a regular basis and try not to live under any illusions of my own relative humanity just because I don't have to witness the death or life myself.
No, but at the same time, I think banning it is something the Spaniards to decide for themselves, instead of the European Union interfering. That would just create more bad sentiment.
At least the bull isnt getting grinded up in a slaughterhouse, plus they eat it after so its not a waste
not_wanted
dude...in a slaughterhouse the animal dies like in 2 seconds, maybe less...in a bullfight the first thing they do is stabbing the bull a bunch of times so that he begins to bleed out, then they put him to run against the matador, which makes him bleed out way faster. after that the bull cant move anymore because of the lost of blood, so he falls to the ground, and the macho matador, thinking that he just took out a T rex single handedly, gives one final stab to the bull... how is that faster/less painful than killing the animal with a meat grinder? sometimes the bull stabs the matador :P It still has better chances than in a slaughterhouse.
ehm...no...even if the bull wins, he gets send to the slaughterhouse or is killed by another matador
At least the bull isnt getting grinded up in a slaughterhouse, plus they eat it after so its not a waste
jimmyjammer69
dude...in a slaughterhouse the animal dies like in 2 seconds, maybe less...in a bullfight the first thing they do is stabbing the bull a bunch of times so that he begins to bleed out, then they put him to run against the matador, which makes him bleed out way faster. after that the bull cant move anymore because of the lost of blood, so he falls to the ground, and the macho matador, thinking that he just took out a T rex single handedly, gives one final stab to the bull... how is that faster/less painful than killing the animal with a meat grinder?I don't think killing in slaughterhouses is nearly as immediate or humane as you imagine, there are plenty of Youtube videos out there as testament to that. On top of that, it's the entire bull's life we should be comparing. It's a lovely image that all the cows you eat spend their entire lives roaming around in fields and generally having a laugh with other cows until that fateful day comes, but that's not always a realistic scenario either. I don't know anything about how bulls are kept until the fight: how well they're fed, how much space they're given, etc., but I'd hazard a guess that it's far better that the condition your average livestock cattle are held in.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not "pro" bull fighting; I just eat beef on a regular basis and try not to live under any illusions of my own relative humanity just because I don't have to witness the death or life myself.
ofc is not very humane, a lot of people abuse them there...but its way faster (or atleast its supposed to be) than in a bull fight
Yes. The bull would end up in a slaughter house anyway.
supergoat777
Yeah but lots of other animals eat meat, in fact the human body was also made for you to eat meat. No other animal enjoys seeing other animals being tortured, besides humans.
no, the human body is not designed to eat meat, sure we can eat it but we are not "optimized" for that
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