do you think a ged is that much different than a high school diploma?

[QUOTE="James161324"]

GED is worthless, its not going to get you a job, and its probley not going to get you into any major school either. Unless you buy your way in

CammiTac

But if you get a GED and then spend a couple years at a community college, would the university you want to transfer to even care that you got a GED, or will they just look at what you did during your time at the community college? Isn't a high school degree worthless after you get a higher degree, anyway?

How should i know, i don't work at a college. The second one it pretty true, high school degree means nothing. Later on, but for getting into college it matters.

[QUOTE="James161324"]

GED is worthless, its not going to get you a job, and its probley not going to get you into any major school either. Unless you buy your way in

CammiTac

But if you get a GED and then spend a couple years at a community college, would the university you want to transfer to even care that you got a GED, or will they just look at what you did during your time at the community college? Isn't a high school degree worthless after you get a higher degree, anyway?

[QUOTE="CammiTac"]

[QUOTE="James161324"]

GED is worthless, its not going to get you a job, and its probley not going to get you into any major school either. Unless you buy your way in

slipknot0129

But if you get a GED and then spend a couple years at a community college, would the university you want to transfer to even care that you got a GED, or will they just look at what you did during your time at the community college? Isn't a high school degree worthless after you get a higher degree, anyway?

If your getting d's in hs, your probley going to have a hard time getting into college in the first place, if you even can

[QUOTE="CammiTac"]

[QUOTE="James161324"]

GED is worthless, its not going to get you a job, and its probley not going to get you into any major school either. Unless you buy your way in

slipknot0129

But if you get a GED and then spend a couple years at a community college, would the university you want to transfer to even care that you got a GED, or will they just look at what you did during your time at the community college? Isn't a high school degree worthless after you get a higher degree, anyway?

Do you think a ged is that much different than a high school diploma?

slipknot0129

It's good when someone gets a GED, but there is a difference depending upon what job you're going for. The U.S. Air Force requires a high school diploma, for example- a GED is not accepted.

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

A GED can get you into Harvard?...Harvard turns down people with 2400 SATs 100s of volunteering hours and 4.0+ GPAs...

slipknot0129

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

Do you think a ged is that much different than a high school diploma?

topsemag55

It's good when someone gets a GED, but there is a difference depending upon what job you're going for. The U.S. Air Force requires a high school diploma, for example- a GED is not accepted.

Incorrect

http://www.airforce.com/contact-us/faq/eligibility/

GED is worthless, its not going to get you a job, and its probley not going to get you into any major school either. Unless you buy your way in

To the above poster, you do relize if your homeschooled you can get a real diploma you don't automaticly get a ged

James161324

You're right, but my stance is that a High school diploma is just as worthless.

There are very few doors a HS Diploma opens that a GED doesn't. Especially on low income.

[QUOTE="James161324"]

GED is worthless, its not going to get you a job, and its probley not going to get you into any major school either. Unless you buy your way in

To the above poster, you do relize if your homeschooled you can get a real diploma you don't automaticly get a ged

Blue-Sky

You're right, but my stance is that a High school diploma is just as worthless.

There are very few doors a HS Diploma opens that a GED doesn't. Especially on low income.

I agree, but i think for the college sake, finsihing hs is the better bet.

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

A GED can get you into Harvard?...Harvard turns down people with 2400 SATs 100s of volunteering hours and 4.0+ GPAs...

xaos

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]Yeah I read somewhere that 10-20 people get accepted into harvard with a ged each year.

slipknot0129

Do you relize harvard turns down people with 4.0 gpa, model citizens etc. Your not going to get into havard with a ged, unless your parents write a nice check

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]Yeah I read somewhere that 10-20 people get accepted into harvard with a ged each year.

slipknot0129

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="xaos"] Yeah, I'm gonna need more than "I read it somewhere" to consider that credible. A quick hit on Google turned up nothing that remotely supported that claim.xaos

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]I havent read anywhere that harvard sees ged's as less.

slipknot0129

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]I havent read anywhere that harvard sees ged's as less.

slipknot0129

Cool, i guess i should have applyied to harvard then. I clearly should have got in by what your saying. Just got to get the parents to cut a check to

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="xaos"] Yeah, I'm gonna need more than "I read it somewhere" to consider that credible. A quick hit on Google turned up nothing that remotely supported that claim.James161324

Do you relize harvard turns down people with 4.0 gpa, model citizens etc. Your not going to get into havard with a ged, unless your parents write a nice check

Lol yea, Harvard turned down a kid who did cancer research in the summer. As someone who will be applying for colleges in under a couple years down the road, I know that getting into an Ivy is an insane accomplishment in this day and age, unless of course there is a building in the school with the family name:P

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]I havent read anywhere that harvard sees ged's as less.

slipknot0129

I posted a link earlier that stated the Airforce only typically allows 1% of its recruited force to comprised of GED holders. According to your numbers, Harvard accepts over 1 percent. So, according to your entirely false numbers and reasoning, Harvard is less picky than the Air Force.

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="xaos"] So, because you haven't found a statement where Harvard says "GED LOL!" you are assuming that they give the same consideration to someone with a GED and someone with a sustained 4.0 GPA and HS diploma?James161324

Cool, i guess i should have applyied to harvard then. I clearly should have got in by what your saying. Just got to get the parents to cut a check to

Money isn't actually a huge issue when it comes to going to Harvard. Yes the tuition is very pricey, but assuming they accept you, they pay 100% tuition for families earning under 60k a year. If you happen to be rich then yeah, you have to pay for the tuition, but they often look to work something out with families who can't afford it.

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="xaos"] So, because you haven't found a statement where Harvard says "GED LOL!" you are assuming that they give the same consideration to someone with a GED and someone with a sustained 4.0 GPA and HS diploma?-Makaveli-

I posted a link earlier that stated the Airforce only typically allows 1% of its recruited force to comprised of GED holders. According to your numbers, Harvard accepts over 1 percent. So, according to your entirely false numbers and reasoning, Harvard is less picky than the Air Force.

Yes, just because they allow GEDs doesn't mean they prefer them. Obviously the don't want to make a statement saying they won't accept GEDs. What some tremendous kid comes along later who happens to have one. Plus homeschoolers often get them just as an extra boost to prove they learned HS academics.

If you go to college and get a degree then how you go there means nothing to potential employers. Graduating college with a degree will overshadow any HS diploma or GED. I think that generally though when ppl compare the two a diploma is considered better than a GED.

[QUOTE="topsemag55"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

Do you think a ged is that much different than a high school diploma?

-Makaveli-

It's good when someone gets a GED, but there is a difference depending upon what job you're going for. The U.S. Air Force requires a high school diploma, for example- a GED is not accepted.

Incorrect

http://www.airforce.com/contact-us/faq/eligibility/

I was not aware of the change - this is more than likely relaxed due to enlistment quotas not being met.

[QUOTE="-Makaveli-"]

[QUOTE="topsemag55"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

Do you think a ged is that much different than a high school diploma?

topsemag55

It's good when someone gets a GED, but there is a difference depending upon what job you're going for. The U.S. Air Force requires a high school diploma, for example- a GED is not accepted.

Incorrect

http://www.airforce.com/contact-us/faq/eligibility/

I was not aware of the change - this is more than likely relaxed due to enlistment quotas not being met.

When I was homeschooled, the only way I knew how to earn a high school diploma was to pass the GED test. Of course, there were probably other ways, but they were out of my control. There is a known stigma surrounding the GED, though, and it was made obvious to me while I was taking state-required GED classes prior to taking the test. One of the teachers began the first class by saying he doesn't care about the reasons for why we (the students) are there, whether it was because we dropped out of high school or what, but that it's good we're here now and we're here to learn (something to that effect). As one class was about to end, and I was getting a headstart on my homework, the teacher and I were alone, and he asked me why I was taking these classes. It was evident to him, based on my performance during classes, that I didn't belong, or at least it's unusual for him to see people like me in his classes. As far as I'm concerned, those who dropped out of high school demonstrate a level of responsibility by eventually earning a GED. It's unfair for them to be stigmatized afterwards for it.

[QUOTE="topsemag55"]

[QUOTE="-Makaveli-"]

Incorrect

http://www.airforce.com/contact-us/faq/eligibility/

-Makaveli-

I was not aware of the change - this is more than likely relaxed due to enlistment quotas not being met.

Seems like both of you missed the part in that link that says they only allow less than 1% of their accessions to be GED holders. What that means is the remaining 99% must have a high school diploma (or be a high school senior) or have a GED AND at least 15 semester hours of college to enlist. They'll take GEDs alone in very rare occasions and that 1% they do take has to score a lot higher on the ASVAB than a high school diploma holder. Even the Army frowns on GEDs, they didn't accept GED holders for over a year and when they finally did start taking them again two months ago the people with GEDs had to score higher than people with diplomas. Also, they came out with a new rule this year saying that GED holders have to be at least 18 and they had to be out of high school for at least six months. This is to discourage people from dropping out in hopes of joining faster.

It's probably harder to get in the military now than it has ever been before. It's also easier to get kicked out as well. The Army even lowered their maximum enlistment age from 42 to 35 this month to reduce the amount of people trying to join. Thank the economy for that; a lot of people who ended up unemployed due to the economy tried to join the military and as a result they just raised enlistment standards. The military had trouble recruiting in 2005 when Iraq and Afghanistan were in full swing, the economy was good, and nobody wanted to join to go to war. As a result, waivers were being handed out like candy back then. Today, recruitment is so well that the Army won't even take people who have a conviction of possession of marijuana on their record. But for some reason people still assume they're desperate for troops when that's not the case now.

The bottom line is that even though a GED supposed to be the equivalent to a high school diploma, most colleges, most employers, and the military don't see it that way and look at people with them as second-cIass citizens. Not saying that's the case but it's easier for people to judge you based on the fact that you got a GED than for the reason you got it. Duke doesn't want to hear your sob story about how you dropped out of high school and got a GED because your dad died and your mom couldn't afford to pay the bills by herself and you needed to get a job. Or the one that you got pregnant and your folks couldn't afford to pay for a babysitter so you could stay in school. All they see is that you have a GED and because of that they're going to pass you over for that guy or girl who graduated high school with a 4.0 two years after you dropped out and earned your GED.

[QUOTE="-Makaveli-"][QUOTE="topsemag55"]

I was not aware of the change - this is more than likely relaxed due to enlistment quotas not being met.

ad1x2

Seems like both of you missed the part in that link that says they only allow less than 1% of their accessions to be GED holders. What that means is the remaining 99% must have a high school diploma (or be a high school senior) or have a GED AND at least 15 semester hours of college to enlist. They'll take GEDs alone in very rare occasions and that 1% they do take has to score a lot higher on the ASVAB than a high school diploma holder. Even the Army frowns on GEDs, they didn't accept GED holders for over a year and when they finally did start taking them again two months ago the people with GEDs had to score higher than people with diplomas. Also, they came out with a new rule this year saying that GED holders have to be at least 18 and they had to be out of high school for at least six months. This is to discourage people from dropping out in hopes of joining faster.

It's probably harder to get in the military now than it has ever been before. It's also easier to get kicked out as well. The Army even lowered their maximum enlistment age from 42 to 35 this month to reduce the amount of people trying to join. Thank the economy for that; a lot of people who ended up unemployed due to the economy tried to join the military and as a result they just raised enlistment standards. The military had trouble recruiting in 2005 when Iraq and Afghanistan were in full swing, the economy was good, and nobody wanted to join to go to war. As a result, waivers were being handed out like candy back then. Today, recruitment is so well that the Army won't even take people who have a conviction of possession of marijuana on their record. But for some reason people still assume they're desperate for troops when that's not the case now.

The bottom line is that even though a GED supposed to be the equivalent to a high school diploma, most colleges, most employers, and the military don't see it that way and look at people with them as second-cIass citizens. Not saying that's the case but it's easier for people to judge you based on the fact that you got a GED than for the reason you got it. Duke doesn't want to hear your sob story about how you dropped out of high school and got a GED because your dad died and your mom couldn't afford to pay the bills by herself and you needed to get a job. Or the one that you got pregnant and your folks couldn't afford to pay for a babysitter so you could stay in school. All they see is that you have a GED and because of that they're going to pass you over for that guy or girl who graduated high school with a 4.0 two years after you dropped out and earned your GED.

[QUOTE="-Makaveli-"][QUOTE="topsemag55"]

I was not aware of the change - this is more than likely relaxed due to enlistment quotas not being met.

ad1x2

Seems like both of you missed the part in that link that says they only allow less than 1% of their accessions to be GED holders. What that means is the remaining 99% must have a high school diploma (or be a high school senior) or have a GED AND at least 15 semester hours of college to enlist. They'll take GEDs alone in very rare occasions and that 1% they do take has to score a lot higher on the ASVAB than a high school diploma holder. Even the Army frowns on GEDs, they didn't accept GED holders for over a year and when they finally did start taking them again two months ago the people with GEDs had to score higher than people with diplomas. Also, they came out with a new rule this year saying that GED holders have to be at least 18 and they had to be out of high school for at least six months. This is to discourage people from dropping out in hopes of joining faster.

It's probably harder to get in the military now than it has ever been before. It's also easier to get kicked out as well. The Army even lowered their maximum enlistment age from 42 to 35 this month to reduce the amount of people trying to join. Thank the economy for that; a lot of people who ended up unemployed due to the economy tried to join the military and as a result they just raised enlistment standards. The military had trouble recruiting in 2005 when Iraq and Afghanistan were in full swing, the economy was good, and nobody wanted to join to go to war. As a result, waivers were being handed out like candy back then. Today, recruitment is so well that the Army won't even take people who have a conviction of possession of marijuana on their record. But for some reason people still assume they're desperate for troops when that's not the case now.

The bottom line is that even though a GED supposed to be the equivalent to a high school diploma, most colleges, most employers, and the military don't see it that way and look at people with them as second-cIass citizens. Not saying that's the case but it's easier for people to judge you based on the fact that you got a GED than for the reason you got it. Duke doesn't want to hear your sob story about how you dropped out of high school and got a GED because your dad died and your mom couldn't afford to pay the bills by herself and you needed to get a job. Or the one that you got pregnant and your folks couldn't afford to pay for a babysitter so you could stay in school. All they see is that you have a GED and because of that they're going to pass you over for that guy or girl who graduated high school with a 4.0 two years after you dropped out and earned your GED.

Really? I could have sworn I've referenced that twice in this thread already.

I wouldn't think a high school diploma is all that different, except maybe in prestige. Of course, once you get an certificate, Associate's degree, or above, the emphasis shifts off your high school education.

In a related circumstance, I went to a community college to start my college career, and now I'm finishing my Master of Science degree in Mathematics. Likewise, I'm sure people have gotten advanced degrees when they started with a GED.