do you think circumcision should be the persons choice?

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#51 DJ_Lae
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The funniest thing about this whole thread is the number of guys saying certain penises are disgusting. I'm curious, how many have you guys been judging and what other traits do you find enjoyable in a man's penisSolidSnake35
True, especially as erect penises look identical.
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#52 Tokugawa77
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Absolutely. The only reason it's still done is because people view it as aesthetically superior, which is just a result of centuries of mutilation with the initial intent of preventing masturbation And with it being the very center of maleness, fathers continue to cut their sons because they don't want that manhood challenged.DJ_Lae

Joke??

No, it is not mutilation, and since not a singly circumcised person feels mutilated or would rather have not been circumcised, this whole topic is made invalid. And it makes masturbation easier. :roll:

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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]The one glaringly obvious advantage would that of STD transmission however, that cannot be overlooked.DJ_Lae
Weren't those all condomless studies in Africa? It seems like sex without a condom would be a poor choice regardless if the person is cut or not.

Well obviously condoms should always be used, the reality of the situation is that they aren't.
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on males.. as a kid its not really your call.. but to women.. now thats one scene i dont wanna remember seeing in real..
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The funniest thing about this whole thread is the number of guys saying certain penises are disgusting. I'm curious, how many have you guys been judging and what other traits do you find enjoyable in a man's penisSolidSnake35

You've never watched porn?

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#56 foxhound_fox
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There is absolutely no reason to have the procedure done unless one is a soldier on a long term of service without access to proper hygiene (clean water is all that is necessary) or someone who has a constriction problem. There are several reasons why nature hasn't evolved the foreskin out of the gene pool. One very important one being the fact it contains thousands of nerve endings that are extremely pleasurable for the man.
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#57 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Absolutely. The only reason it's still done is because people view it as aesthetically superior, which is just a result of centuries of mutilation with the initial intent of preventing masturbation And with it being the very center of maleness, fathers continue to cut their sons because they don't want that manhood challenged.Tokugawa77

Joke??

No, it is not mutilation, and since not a singly circumcised person feels mutilated or would rather have not been circumcised, this whole topic is made invalid. And it makes masturbation easier. :roll:

When you're playing with an uncircumcised penis how much more difficult do you find it over one that is circumcised?
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There is absolutely no reason to have the procedure done unless one is a soldier on a long term of service without access to proper hygiene (clean water is all that is necessary) or someone who has a constriction problem. There are several reasons why nature hasn't evolved the foreskin out of the gene pool. One very important one being the fact it contains thousands of nerve endings that are extremely pleasurable for the man.foxhound_fox
That's the glans.
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#59 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]The funniest thing about this whole thread is the number of guys saying certain penises are disgusting. I'm curious, how many have you guys been judging and what other traits do you find enjoyable in a man's penisROFLCOPTER603

You've never watched porn?

From what I've seen, they're all circumcised. Which you would expect; most porn comes from the states...
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I had it done when I was like 10 for medical reasons and it was one of the most painful things ever when they were taking off the dressing, they put me in a bath to remove it and I passed out. Not to mention after you get it done your penis inflates to the size of a freakin bowling ball.
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#61 Tokugawa77
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[QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Absolutely. The only reason it's still done is because people view it as aesthetically superior, which is just a result of centuries of mutilation with the initial intent of preventing masturbation And with it being the very center of maleness, fathers continue to cut their sons because they don't want that manhood challenged.SolidSnake35

Joke??

No, it is not mutilation, and since not a singly circumcised person feels mutilated or would rather have not been circumcised, this whole topic is made invalid. And it makes masturbation easier. :roll:

When you're playing with an uncircumcised penis how much more difficult do you find it over one that is circumcised?

Please stop with these posts. If I were actually gay I'd be pretty pissed off at the way you keep insinuating negativity towards homosexuality. In any case, it is just things you hear.

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#62 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

Joke??

No, it is not mutilation, and since not a singly circumcised person feels mutilated or would rather have not been circumcised, this whole topic is made invalid. And it makes masturbation easier. :roll:

Tokugawa77

When you're playing with an uncircumcised penis how much more difficult do you find it over one that is circumcised?

Please stop with these posts. If I were actually gay I'd be pretty pissed off at the way you keep insinuating negativity towards homosexuality. In any case, it is just things you hear.

It's a simple question. i assumed you had experience with both. :?
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I had it done when I was like 10 for medical reasons and it was one of the most painful things ever when they were taking off the dressing, they put me in a bath to remove it and I passed out. Not to mention after you get it done your penis inflates to the size of a freakin bowling ball.V4LENT1NE
Some people would pay big money for that. lol.
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That's the glans.sonicare
Nope. There are more nerve endings in the foreskin than in the glans. Which is why the anti-masturbation crowd were so adamant to get it removed from all the little boys.
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#65 Tokugawa77
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[QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] When you're playing with an uncircumcised penis how much more difficult do you find it over one that is circumcised?SolidSnake35

Please stop with these posts. If I were actually gay I'd be pretty pissed off at the way you keep insinuating negativity towards homosexuality. In any case, it is just things you hear.

It's a simple question. i assumed you had experience with both. :?

Oh please.

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#66 ROFLCOPTER603
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[QUOTE="ROFLCOPTER603"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]The funniest thing about this whole thread is the number of guys saying certain penises are disgusting. I'm curious, how many have you guys been judging and what other traits do you find enjoyable in a man's penisSolidSnake35

You've never watched porn?

From what I've seen, they're all circumcised. Which you would expect; most porn comes from the states...

Very few have uncircumcised penises, but some do. Anyways my point was that you seem tosuggest that everyone's gay for having an opinion on circumcision and then you go on to admit that you've seen penises too.

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#67 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

Please stop with these posts. If I were actually gay I'd be pretty pissed off at the way you keep insinuating negativity towards homosexuality. In any case, it is just things you hear.

Tokugawa77

It's a simple question. i assumed you had experience with both. :?

Oh please.

The question still stands.
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#68 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="ROFLCOPTER603"]

You've never watched porn?

ROFLCOPTER603

From what I've seen, they're all circumcised. Which you would expect; most porn comes from the states...

Very few have uncircumcised penises, but some do. Anyways my point was that you seem tosuggest that everyone's gay for having an opinion on circumcision and then you go on to admit that you've seen penises too.

But I've made no comment about which I find to be pretty to the eye.
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#69 ROFLCOPTER603
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[QUOTE="ROFLCOPTER603"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] From what I've seen, they're all circumcised. Which you would expect; most porn comes from the states...SolidSnake35

Very few have uncircumcised penises, but some do. Anyways my point was that you seem tosuggest that everyone's gay for having an opinion on circumcision and then you go on to admit that you've seen penises too.

But I've made no comment about which I find to be pretty to the eye.

So you just like them all equally? See, I can make inflammatory comments too.

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#70 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="ROFLCOPTER603"]

Very few have uncircumcised penises, but some do. Anyways my point was that you seem tosuggest that everyone's gay for having an opinion on circumcision and then you go on to admit that you've seen penises too.

ROFLCOPTER603

But I've made no comment about which I find to be pretty to the eye.

So you just like them all equally? See, I can make inflammatory comments too.

Yeah, I do. :?
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#71 weezyfb
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it is fine either way
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[QUOTE="ROFLCOPTER603"]

Uncircumcized penises are disgusting. I'm glad I'm circumcized.

Tokugawa77

This. Plus circumsicision helps reduce the chances of getting certain STDs. Not to mention that you can do your business anywhere without lotion.

Lol you have no clue, the skin is to help you out without the use of the lotion when circumcised one need lotion
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#73 ROFLCOPTER603
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[QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

[QUOTE="ROFLCOPTER603"]

Uncircumcized penises are disgusting. I'm glad I'm circumcized.

RankaiOwnz

This. Plus circumsicision helps reduce the chances of getting certain STDs. Not to mention that you can do your business anywhere without lotion.

Lol you have no clue, the skin is to help you out without the use of the lotion when circumcised one need lotion

I don't need lotion.

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it is fine either way weezyfb
Those are my thoughts.
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#75 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="RankaiOwnz"][QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

This. Plus circumsicision helps reduce the chances of getting certain STDs. Not to mention that you can do your business anywhere without lotion.

ROFLCOPTER603

Lol you have no clue, the skin is to help you out without the use of the lotion when circumcised one need lotion

I don't need lotion.

Tell me more.
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#76 ROFLCOPTER603
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[QUOTE="ROFLCOPTER603"]

[QUOTE="RankaiOwnz"] Lol you have no clue, the skin is to help you out without the use of the lotion when circumcised one need lotionSolidSnake35

I don't need lotion.

Tell me more.

I imagine google images could help you out. It won't be me, so sorry if you're disappointed.

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#77 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="ROFLCOPTER603"]

I don't need lotion.

ROFLCOPTER603

Tell me more.

I imagine google images could help you out. It won't be me, so sorry if you're disappointed.

Just wanted an expert's opinion.
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#78 ROFLCOPTER603
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[QUOTE="ROFLCOPTER603"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] Tell me more.SolidSnake35

I imagine google images could help you out. It won't be me, so sorry if you're disappointed.

Just wanted an expert's opinion.

You could probably just ask yourself in that case. You have over 50k posts, so I'm sure that you're close with your computer.

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#79 DarkFadi
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[QUOTE="ROFLCOPTER603"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] Tell me more.SolidSnake35
I imagine google images could help you out. It won't be me, so sorry if you're disappointed.

Just wanted an expert's opinion.


:lol:

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#80 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="ROFLCOPTER603"]

I imagine google images could help you out. It won't be me, so sorry if you're disappointed.

ROFLCOPTER603

Just wanted an expert's opinion.

You could probably just ask yourself in that case. You have over 50k posts, so I'm sure that you're close with your computer.

You don't get to 50k by taking time out for that, son.
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#81 ROFLCOPTER603
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[QUOTE="ROFLCOPTER603"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] Just wanted an expert's opinion.SolidSnake35

You could probably just ask yourself in that case. You have over 50k posts, so I'm sure that you're close with your computer.

You don't get to 50k by taking time out for that, son.

That's true.

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me personally, I think it's sexual mutilation, but I'm not going to making a spectacle out of my beliefs for this, if I have kids I'll just not have them circumcised and if they want to be circumcised later in life that's there decision
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#83 DarkFadi
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me personally, I think it's sexual mutilation, but I'm not going to making a spectacle out of my beliefs for this, if I have kids I'll just not have them circumcised and if they want to be circumcised later in life that's there decisionlamprey263
leaving kids circumcised means they get used to it like that.. so its like leaving them circumcised for life
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#84 spacesheikh
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Yeah, and while we're at it, let's ask babies if they want to get aborted as well.

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[QUOTE="ROFLCOPTER603"]

Uncircumcized penises are disgusting. I'm glad I'm circumcized.

Tokugawa77

This. Plus circumsicision helps reduce the chances of getting certain STDs. Not to mention that you can do your business anywhere without lotion.

Lotion? Where the hell are you getting your info from?
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[QUOTE="ROFLCOPTER603"]

Uncircumcized penises are disgusting. I'm glad I'm circumcized.

Tokugawa77

This. Plus circumsicision helps reduce the chances of getting certain STDs. Not to mention that you can do your business anywhere without lotion.

Well, considering one of the main purposes of a foreskin is to produce a natural secretion (a.k.a. natural lube) of the glans of the penis which would then be spread down the shaft through certain motions, you are incorrect. It is actually easier for an uncircumcised male to masturbate without lotion since they essentially make their own.
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Yeah let's give the baby the red pill and blue pill to let him decide.
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In my opinion, parents should only be allowed to have their children circumcised for religious or medical reasons. I bet the majority of Americans (excluding Jews and some Muslims) who get their children circumcised do it for aesthetic reasons, not for concerns over their health (which have very little basis in fact; the only situation where circumcision would be advantageous to one's health is if they lived in unsanitary conditions, which is why they are trying to spread the occurrence of the procedure in third-world countries. If you live in the US and you shower on a monthly basis, there is little to no health risk associated with not being circumcised). I don't understand why parents are allowed to decide to cut of part of their child's penis because they think it looks stupid. IIRC, the US is the only predominately Christian developed nation that has a majority of the newborn population being circumcised (even though that number is dropping rapidly and soon circumcised babies will become the minority).

If there is no medical or religious reason for circumcision, it shouldn't be performerd. Doctor's should be aware of this. If a person really, really wants it, they can go through the procedure when they are older.

EDIT: For what Wikipedia is worth (it cites actual research), I was correct in my assumption. The US is by far the country with the highest rate with about 55%. Canada is next with about 30%. Then Australia with 20%. And it drops fast from there.

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Just when I thought we (as a society) agreed leave eachother's private life alone........
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#90 VanHelsingBoA64
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Some of you guys are very defensive about your penis
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#91 slipknot0129
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Yeah, and while we're at it, let's ask babies if they want to get aborted as well.

spacesheikh

Those two things dont relate at all.

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[QUOTE="VanHelsingBoA64"]Some of you guys are very defensive about your penis

That is my no no square.
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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Absolutely. The only reason it's still done is because people view it as aesthetically superior, which is just a result of centuries of mutilation with the initial intent of preventing masturbation And with it being the very center of maleness, fathers continue to cut their sons because they don't want that manhood challenged.Tokugawa77

Joke??

No, it is not mutilation, and since not a singly circumcised person feels mutilated or would rather have not been circumcised, this whole topic is made invalid. And it makes masturbation easier. :roll:

How do you know that? It isn't something most people would bring up in public.

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circumcision prevents the transmission of some stds. So you could say someone thats not circumcised is willfully putting all their sexual partners in life and themselves at greater risk of disease. Its cleaner and less disease prone, i see nothing wrong with circumcising babies. We dont wait till someone is 18 so they can choose if they want vaccinations or not... the health benefits win out, If we cant circumcise children, you must be against child vaccinations as well.
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circumcision prevents the transmission of some stds. So you could say someone thats not circumcised is willfully putting all their sexual partners in life and themselves at greater risk of disease. Its cleaner and less disease prone, i see nothing wrong with circumcising babies. We dont wait till someone is 18 so they can choose if they want vaccinations or not... the health benefits win out, If we cant circumcise children, you must be against child vaccinations as well.TonyDanzig
Circumscision does not recude the risk of spreading stds. Wearing a condom or abstaining from sex reduces the risk of stds.

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#96 poptart
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circumcision prevents the transmission of some stds. So you could say someone thats not circumcised is willfully putting all their sexual partners in life and themselves at greater risk of disease. Its cleaner and less disease prone, i see nothing wrong with circumcising babies. We dont wait till someone is 18 so they can choose if they want vaccinations or not... the health benefits win out, If we cant circumcise children, you must be against child vaccinations as well.TonyDanzig

Hmm... a little extreme for a negligible benefit which some still dispute?

And if protection against STD's is the argument for circumcision, it's hardly going to impact an infant now is it (unless of course they're out on the tiles at an early age).

Besides I like my little cozy - keeps the fella warm in winter.

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[QUOTE="TonyDanzig"]circumcision prevents the transmission of some stds. So you could say someone thats not circumcised is willfully putting all their sexual partners in life and themselves at greater risk of disease. Its cleaner and less disease prone, i see nothing wrong with circumcising babies. We dont wait till someone is 18 so they can choose if they want vaccinations or not... the health benefits win out, If we cant circumcise children, you must be against child vaccinations as well.slipknot0129

Circumscision does not recude the risk of spreading stds. Wearing a condom or abstaining from sex reduces the risk of stds.

It actually does.

Condoms are still the best line of defense, but to say that it doesn't reduce tranmission rates or risk of infections AT ALL is just wrong. Besides HIV, it also cuts down the tranmission rates of other viral STDs like HPV and Herpes.

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#98 TonyDanzig
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[QUOTE="TonyDanzig"]circumcision prevents the transmission of some stds. So you could say someone thats not circumcised is willfully putting all their sexual partners in life and themselves at greater risk of disease. Its cleaner and less disease prone, i see nothing wrong with circumcising babies. We dont wait till someone is 18 so they can choose if they want vaccinations or not... the health benefits win out, If we cant circumcise children, you must be against child vaccinations as well.slipknot0129

Circumscision does not recude the risk of spreading stds. Wearing a condom or abstaining from sex reduces the risk of stds.

Thats like saying wearing a seatbelt doesnt reduce vehicle fatalities because airbags do. The fact of the matter is they both do. They are both prevention measures,
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#99 poptart
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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="TonyDanzig"]circumcision prevents the transmission of some stds. So you could say someone thats not circumcised is willfully putting all their sexual partners in life and themselves at greater risk of disease. Its cleaner and less disease prone, i see nothing wrong with circumcising babies. We dont wait till someone is 18 so they can choose if they want vaccinations or not... the health benefits win out, If we cant circumcise children, you must be against child vaccinations as well.HoolaHoopMan

Circumscision does not recude the risk of spreading stds. Wearing a condom or abstaining from sex reduces the risk of stds.

It actually does.

Condoms are still the best line of defense, but to say that it doesn't reduce tranmission rates or risk of infections AT ALL is just wrong. Besides HIV, it also cuts down the tranmission rates of other viral STDs like HPV and Herpes.

HIV maybe, but other STD's the benefits are minimal/negligible, hence the reason that it isn't deemed a neccesary procedure.

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#100 TonyDanzig
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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]Circumscision does not recude the risk of spreading stds. Wearing a condom or abstaining from sex reduces the risk of stds.

poptart

It actually does.

Condoms are still the best line of defense, but to say that it doesn't reduce tranmission rates or risk of infections AT ALL is just wrong. Besides HIV, it also cuts down the tranmission rates of other viral STDs like HPV and Herpes.

HIV maybe, but other STD's the benefits are minimal/negligible, hence the reason that it isn't deemed a neccesary procedure.

I dont know of many procedures deemed necessary for children... unless they are life saving. But circumcision is certainly beneficial to the child, and alot easier to do earlier in life.