Do you think colonising the moon is a good idea?
Hint: Remember my moon base thread? I guess not. Mmmmuhahaha Mmmmuhahaha
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I've always wanted to see a world similar to Halo/Freelancer (not with the evil aliens), with space travel, space stations etc
Not in my lifetime. :(
No. I think Earth is too good of a planet to bail out on.Genetic_Codeit wont be if we stay exclusively here
No. Sooner or later, the Moon People are going to start to feel repressed. They are then going to take up arms and fight for independence, which leads to a whole drawn out process of war, negotation, and a lot of money lost. You know, like that stuff in the history books.
It would be very easy to stop such a rebellion. if they overtake the military or something, we just cut off space travel, and ignore them for !00years until all the radicals are dead.No. Sooner or later, the Moon People are going to start to feel repressed. They are then going to take up arms and fight for independence, which leads to a whole drawn out process of war, negotation, and a lot of money lost. You know, like that stuff in the history books.
jetpower3
it wont be if we stay exclusively here ferret-gamerIf there's overpopulation, but that doesn't appear to be happening anytime soon.
[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]it wont be if we stay exclusively here Genetic_CodeIf there's overpopulation, but that doesn't appear to be happening anytime soon. Humans have exceeded their carrying capacity long ago.
Aside from mining the moon, which we are currently in the process of findign if it is worth it, I don't see any reason to create a moon base. IT would drain massive amounts of money otu of the world economy that could be put into much better things than havign a coupel guys livign on the moon doing nothing but playign poker all day.
If we plan on going anywhere else in our solar system we kinda have to. It's much easier escaping from the moons gravity than from earths gravity. I bet a moon base would make up its initial construction costs fairly quickly when we begin deep space exploration.Locke562Or you could just use a space station close to Earth which would save the mass amounts of money it would take to travel to the moon every month or so.
Or you could just use a space station close to Earth which would save the mass amounts of money it would take to travel to the moon every month or so. A Space Station would likely be part of the equation, but you can't fire rockets that could carry enough fuel for space exploration from a space station.[QUOTE="Locke562"]If we plan on going anywhere else in our solar system we kinda have to. It's much easier escaping from the moons gravity than from earths gravity. I bet a moon base would make up its initial construction costs fairly quickly when we begin deep space exploration.BumFluff122
[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]Or you could just use a space station close to Earth which would save the mass amounts of money it would take to travel to the moon every month or so. A Space Station would likely be part of the equation, but you can't fire rockets that could carry enough fuel for space exploration from a space station. Yes you can. You wouldn't need rockets for space anyways. You bring the stuff to build the ship up to the space station and build it at a docking port. Rockets are specifically for getting away from a planets gravity, at least for the large rockets that you are probably talking about. Rocket fuel is supremely expensive.[QUOTE="Locke562"]If we plan on going anywhere else in our solar system we kinda have to. It's much easier escaping from the moons gravity than from earths gravity. I bet a moon base would make up its initial construction costs fairly quickly when we begin deep space exploration.Locke562
Not yet. When there's a reason to I think we should. It's a good idea given time, but not in our present day.
A Space Station would likely be part of the equation, but you can't fire rockets that could carry enough fuel for space exploration from a space station. Yes you can. You wouldn't need rockets for space anyways. You bring the stuff to build the ship up to the space station and build it at a docking port. Rockets are specifically for getting away from a planets gravity, at least for the large rockets that you are probably talking about. Rocket fuel is supremely expensive. For a manned craft to get home from space they would probably have to slingshot around a planet or a moon.[QUOTE="Locke562"][QUOTE="BumFluff122"]Or you could just use a space station close to Earth which would save the mass amounts of money it would take to travel to the moon every month or so.
BumFluff122
Yes you can. You wouldn't need rockets for space anyways. You bring the stuff to build the ship up to the space station and build it at a docking port. Rockets are specifically for getting away from a planets gravity, at least for the large rockets that you are probably talking about. Rocket fuel is supremely expensive. For a manned craft to get home from space they would probably have to slingshot around a planet or a moon.They already use the slingshot method for steering satellites. All you need is a single push in space and you will continue to travel in the same direction unimpeded unless acted upon by another force or object. You don't need much gas.[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]
[QUOTE="Locke562"] A Space Station would likely be part of the equation, but you can't fire rockets that could carry enough fuel for space exploration from a space station. Locke562
I do, it could ease up some of the crowded places on Earth.optiow
um how
even if you put a million people on the moon that is insignificant when you have 6.7 billion people on earth
I wish I could live to see this become a reality.You can't colonise the moon but you can in Mars by using a hypothetical method called terraformation. Though it's so expensive that it will cause global economic disaster.
Blubadox
it will of course happen eventually, but considering the cost and time to colonise another body its not worth it unless the moon is full of every resource humans would need, but there is also the side effect from living on the moon which is that because the gravity is so much lower than earths u would suffer from bone softening which is fine as long as u stay on mars but as soon as go back to earth u would collapse like a cheap tent
[QUOTE="Blubadox"]I wish I could live to see this become a reality.You can't colonise the moon but you can in Mars by using a hypothetical method called terraformation. Though it's so expensive that it will cause global economic disaster.
Tauruslink
You could see a tiny part of it, they are trying to come up ways to terraform small areas on earth, same method can be implemented to terraform other planets. Also space travel and space station are becoming increasingly expensive, the current space station we have has cost $300bn so far- that's a ridiculous amount of money...you know that? It's totally unreasonable. That's why the next best alternative would be to make Space Elevators, the problem we are facing right now is the elevator cable strength- a cable that long could not withstand its own weight so it would break. However new materials are being discovered by scientists all around the world, carbon nanotubes,carbon fiber and it's subsets seem to have large tensile strength...but it would cost $25 per gram, so when the economy stabalizes we might see a bit more progress in this area.
yes i think that is a terrific idea. since i was a kid ive always wanted to live in cities on the moon. if only some congressmen in the 60s made some different decisions regarding our national budget, we would actually be living on the moon, maybe even mars right now (because there were alot of space travel plans that got nixed because of this spending issue). also i think it would be a good idea to keep tabs on aliens (yeah i know). it would be easy to put some nuclear missile silos, even rail guns, on the moon to defend earth.
I wish I could live to see this become a reality.[QUOTE="Tauruslink"][QUOTE="Blubadox"]
You can't colonise the moon but you can in Mars by using a hypothetical method called terraformation. Though it's so expensive that it will cause global economic disaster.
Blubadox
You could see a tiny part of it, they are trying to come up ways to terraform small areas on earth, same method can be implemented to terraform other planets. Also space travel and space station are becoming increasingly expensive, the current space station we have has cost $300bn so far- that's a ridiculous amount of money...you know that? It's totally unreasonable. That's why the next best alternative would be to make Space Elevators, the problem we are facing right now is the elevator cable strength- a cable that long could not withstand its own weight so it would break. However new materials are being discovered by scientists all around the world, carbon nanotubes,carbon fiber and it's subsets seem to have large tensile strength...but it would cost $25 per gram, so when the economy stabalizes we might see a bit more progress in this area.
Yeah I've been keeping up with the space elevator idea. Hopefully I get to see it one day. Back to terraformation, though how long would it take to turn a planet like mars into a planet like earth?[QUOTE="Blubadox"][QUOTE="Tauruslink"] I wish I could live to see this become a reality.Tauruslink
You could see a tiny part of it, they are trying to come up ways to terraform small areas on earth, same method can be implemented to terraform other planets. Also space travel and space station are becoming increasingly expensive, the current space station we have has cost $300bn so far- that's a ridiculous amount of money...you know that? It's totally unreasonable. That's why the next best alternative would be to make Space Elevators, the problem we are facing right now is the elevator cable strength- a cable that long could not withstand its own weight so it would break. However new materials are being discovered by scientists all around the world, carbon nanotubes,carbon fiber and it's subsets seem to have large tensile strength...but it would cost $25 per gram, so when the economy stabalizes we might see a bit more progress in this area.
Yeah I've been keeping up with the space elevator idea. Hopefully I get to see it one day. Back to terraformation, though how long would it take to turn a planet like mars into a planet like earth?Probably hundreds years (entire planet), that's because we don't know what to do exactly. In future we might discover something that's much more quicker.
Yeah I've been keeping up with the space elevator idea. Hopefully I get to see it one day. Back to terraformation, though how long would it take to turn a planet like mars into a planet like earth?[QUOTE="Tauruslink"][QUOTE="Blubadox"]
You could see a tiny part of it, they are trying to come up ways to terraform small areas on earth, same method can be implemented to terraform other planets. Also space travel and space station are becoming increasingly expensive, the current space station we have has cost $300bn so far- that's a ridiculous amount of money...you know that? It's totally unreasonable. That's why the next best alternative would be to make Space Elevators, the problem we are facing right now is the elevator cable strength- a cable that long could not withstand its own weight so it would break. However new materials are being discovered by scientists all around the world, carbon nanotubes,carbon fiber and it's subsets seem to have large tensile strength...but it would cost $25 per gram, so when the economy stabalizes we might see a bit more progress in this area.
Blubadox
Probably hundreds years (entire planet), that's because we don't know what to do exactly. In future we might discover something that's much more quicker.
Terraforming is great and all, but we can't create a new magnetic field. Therefore we would all need to wear huge suits to protect us or we would die. Also I believe I read that Mars is too small and any amounts of oxygen would just fly off into outer space.
[QUOTE="Blubadox"]
[QUOTE="Tauruslink"] Yeah I've been keeping up with the space elevator idea. Hopefully I get to see it one day. Back to terraformation, though how long would it take to turn a planet like mars into a planet like earth?bigblunt537
Probably hundreds years (entire planet), that's because we don't know what to do exactly. In future we might discover something that's much more quicker.
Terraforming is great and all, but we can't create a new magnetic field. Therefore we would all need to wear huge suits to protect us or we would die. Also I believe I read that Mars is too small and any amounts of oxygen would just fly off into outer space.
You can produce Oxygen by planting oxgen generators by using the method called Sabatier's Reaction
Martian CO2 (carbon-di-oxide) and hydrogen
CO2 + 4H2 gives you ------> CH4(methane) + 2H20 (water/o2)
@ Blubafox
That's understandable, but I read the low gravity and the lack of a magnetic field would make all the oxygen we plant on the planet fly right into outer space. Is this true or was I misinformed?
@ Blubafox
That's understandable, but I read the low gravity and the lack of a magnetic field would make all the oxygen we plant on the planet fly right into outer space. Is this true or was I misinformed?
bigblunt537
Terraformation will restore Ozone layers...it's a slow process but will stabilize the poles - you see there is still ice near the poles of mars just like antartica- if something happens to antartica (if the ice melts) we will have severe environmental hazards........anyway the thing is Asteroid Belt is very close to Mars, so when we have the clear data we can estimate the strike probability by painting each asteroid trajectories around mars.
If we could fix a lot of the problems here first, like world hunger, malaria, and poverty, then I'd say colonizing the moon would be a pretty good next step.
I think it's probably a good idea now, if the colony would serve as a prime example where humans of different races and cultures could get along and inspire humanity to do the same. Ahhh f**k it, who am I kidding...
one of the worst ideas made by ahuman ever
on earth we still have famines,wars,diseases and a lot of threats to take care of
and instead of fixing these problems they would spend billions of billions of dollars just for some sort of rich people to have some
luxury on the moon ...............
ridiculous
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