Do you think Disney has gotten better or worse over the years?

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#1 EvilEightBallz
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compare todays tv shows/movies/cartoons to past tv shows/movies/cartoons....

what do you think?

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Much, much worse. And I've never even been that big of a fan...
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Disney was best during what is referred to as the "Disney Renaissance" or the period beginning with "The Little Mermaid" and ending with "Tarzan" peaking of course at "The Lion King".
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#4 Bloodaxe726
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Their animated movies got significantly worse for a while, now they're getting great again. Tangled is possibly the best Disney movie out there.

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#5 DJ419
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If you can count Pixar, they still are making fantastic movies. The Disney animation studios has been going downhill since the late 90s. The animators are still the best in the business, but the writing is lacking. As for their television, lets not even go there........

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#6 EvilEightBallz
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Their animated movies got significantly worse for a while, now they're getting great again. Tangled is possibly the best Disney movie out there.

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yea and i heard that The Princess and the Frog (i think that wat its called) was possibly the best animated film since The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast. well on the female point of view lol. i've never seen it before.

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#7 AvatarMan96
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The TV channel? Terrible.

The movies? Ok, but only because of Pixar

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#8 EvilEightBallz
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If you can count Pixar, they still are making fantastic movies. The Disney animation studios has been going downhill since the late 90s. The animators are still the best in the business, but the writing is lacking. As for their television, lets not even go there........

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omg pixar will always be great no matter what! wasnt Toy Story the very first film made by Pixar?

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Worse. Much worse. The only thing they have going for them now is Phineas and Ferb.

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The old Disney movies are all classics, there hasn't been a comparable one made in years.
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#11 CaptainAhab13
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Disney Renaissance was the best. It was all downhill from there... except for Pixar.

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#12 yagr_zero
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They've been on a down turn for a while. Hopefully they get their act together.
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#13 EvilEightBallz
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The old Disney movies are all classics, there hasn't been a comparable one made in years.harashawn

plus the old disney movies actually have feeling in them. i'm a 26 year old guy and i still can't watch The Fox and the Hound without getting a lil emotional and watery eyed :')

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They were getting worse for quite a while, but they actually got a bit better in recent years. Phineas and Ferb is a decent show which is the best I can say about their tv programming in a while, and in terms of movies, Bolt was kind of good and Tangled was actually really good. So still mostly pretty bad, but there's at least SOME good stuff in there now.

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Worse, I think.
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#16 BuryMe
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I think they're rebounding now, but after the renaisance ended, they really went downhill fast.

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#17 chessmaster1989
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As far as Disney animated movies goes, much worse. That said, cIassic Disney is amazing, definitely better than Pixar.
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[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

Their animated movies got significantly worse for a while, now they're getting great again. Tangled is possibly the best Disney movie out there.

EvilEightBallz

yea and i heard that The Princess and the Frog (i think that wat its called) was possibly the best animated film since The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast. well on the female point of view lol. i've never seen it before.

I have to agree with this, I was surprised how The Princess and the Frog made its way directly to my top 3 Disney films on the very first watch, drawing with but not displacing Beauty and the Beast which is my favourite Disney film of all (and is part of the aforementioned Disney Renaissance of course). It showed that Disney still has some of the old magic imo but sadly I remember someone mentioning they have decided to move away from the whole Princess thing which for me as a sad girl is a shame. Their current run can be hit and miss anyway - Tangled was a bit weak to me but that's just me - they're not 100% guaranteed to spin a masterpiece like they were in the 90s etc. That being said I think they have a lot of potential in re-releasing their old stuff; watching Beauty and the Beast on BluRay was honestly one of the most bombastic movie experiences I've ever encountered. However living off of pre-gnawed bones isn't so admirable a trait in such a company.
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It has its peeks and yuck moments
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#20 SilentFireX
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Disney was best during what is referred to as the "Disney Renaissance" or the period beginning with "The Little Mermaid" and ending with "Tarzan" peaking of course at "The Lion King".trick_man01
I agree with this 100%.
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#21 LoG-Sacrament
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i think they've always been patchy. i mean, i think fantasia is one of the very best (and most influential) animated films ever made, but i dont agree with the classic status of a lot of the other classic disney films like snow white, the lion king, or the little mermaid. the 90's and on have still had some greats like beauty and the beast, fantasia 2000, and wall-e.
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#22 Kentisc
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Worse, nothing beats the Lion King

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#23 peterw007
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Their animated movies got significantly worse for a while, now they're getting great again. Tangled is possibly the best Disney movie out there.

Bloodaxe726

The quality of Disney movies ebb and flow. Some decades they are great, other decades they are terrible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Disney_theatrical_animated_features

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Generally:

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GOOD YEARS: Snow White-Bambi (1937-1942) (Disney's Golden Age)

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BAD YEARS: Saludos Amigos-The Adventures of Ichabod (1943-1949) (Disney's War Era)

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GOOD YEARS: Cinderella-The Jungle Book (1950-1967) (Disney's Silver Age, ended with the death of Walt Disney)

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BAD YEARS: The Aristocats-Oliver & Company (1968-1988 ) (Disney's Dark Ages)

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GOOD YEARS: The Little Mermaid-Fantasia 2000 (1989-1999) (Disney's Renaissance)

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BAD YEARS: Dinosaur-Bolt (2000-2008 ) (Disney's Digital Age)

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GOOD YEARS: The Princess and the Frog-Winnie the Pooh (2009-Present) (The Present)

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I think most people would agree that this is the general Disney progression in terms of quality.

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#24 ShadowDragon78
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much much much worse...
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#25 shakmaster13
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90's Disney movies are still some of the best movies I have ever seen. But it all went downhill since then and they are much worse now. It's as if the creativity of Disney just left for Dreamworks.
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Worse, definately. Unless you count pixar (they own them now) otherwise it's not good.

For one thing what the hell is up with Disney channel? I have younger nephews and nieces that come over to my house and they turn on Disney Channel and there isn't a single cartoon on there. It's all this "tween wave" crap that they have on there like Hannah Montanna ect.. These shows look more like advertisements and trends than actual anything else. I don't know what happens but I'll be glad when this stuff finally blows over and some different trend starts, I just hope it isn't as bad.

As for Disney animation, I can't really remember the last time they made a move. I know they have done them but they just didn't look good. Although it's not animated but Pirates of the Carribeean is good so there is still some Disney magic in there somehwere.

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Worse, definately. Unless you count pixar (they own them now) otherwise it's not good.

For one thing what the hell is up with Disney channel? I have younger nephews and nieces that come over to my house and they turn on Disney Channel and there isn't a single cartoon on there. It's all this "tween wave" crap that they have on there like Hannah Montanna ect.. These shows look more like advertisements and trends than actual anything else. I don't know what happens but I'll be glad when this stuff finally blows over and some different trend starts, I just hope it isn't as bad.

As for Disney animation, I can't really remember the last time they made a move. I know they have done them but they just didn't look good. Although it's not animated but Pirates of the Carribeean is good so there is still some Disney magic in there somehwere.

ShadowMoses900

Phineas and Ferb is basically the only Disney cartoon they still make for television...and it's actually a good cartoon.

There is one other cartoon however...but it's atrociously bad. Not even worth naming.

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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Worse, definately. Unless you count pixar (they own them now) otherwise it's not good.

For one thing what the hell is up with Disney channel? I have younger nephews and nieces that come over to my house and they turn on Disney Channel and there isn't a single cartoon on there. It's all this "tween wave" crap that they have on there like Hannah Montanna ect.. These shows look more like advertisements and trends than actual anything else. I don't know what happens but I'll be glad when this stuff finally blows over and some different trend starts, I just hope it isn't as bad.

As for Disney animation, I can't really remember the last time they made a move. I know they have done them but they just didn't look good. Although it's not animated but Pirates of the Carribeean is good so there is still some Disney magic in there somehwere.

peterw007

Phineas and Ferb is basically the only Disney cartoon they still make for television...and it's actually a good cartoon.

There is one other cartoon however...but it's atrociously bad. Not even worth naming.

You mean the Kyle Massey fish one? Then I agree.

Pixar still makes great movies (Excluding Up), and Princess and the Frog was actually pretty good. But thats still not enough to redeem them for being horrible.

Pixar movies are mainly the only reason I watch DC now. And P&F.

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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Worse, definately. Unless you count pixar (they own them now) otherwise it's not good.

For one thing what the hell is up with Disney channel? I have younger nephews and nieces that come over to my house and they turn on Disney Channel and there isn't a single cartoon on there. It's all this "tween wave" crap that they have on there like Hannah Montanna ect.. These shows look more like advertisements and trends than actual anything else. I don't know what happens but I'll be glad when this stuff finally blows over and some different trend starts, I just hope it isn't as bad.

As for Disney animation, I can't really remember the last time they made a move. I know they have done them but they just didn't look good. Although it's not animated but Pirates of the Carribeean is good so there is still some Disney magic in there somehwere.

peterw007

Phineas and Ferb is basically the only Disney cartoon they still make for television...and it's actually a good cartoon.

There is one other cartoon however...but it's atrociously bad. Not even worth naming.

I remember when I was a kid they had all kinds of cartoons on there like duck tails ect...

But know I'm just like "wtf?" you know.

Oh but princess and the frog was pretty good but I don't know if that was pixar or not, still some disney magic is in there. i just think they need to get rid of all this hanna montanna stuff and go back to being good. Hell even nickelodean has gone that way aswell. I don't watch these channels regularly or anything so I don't know, but when ever my younger family members come to visit they turn that stuff on and I can't understand what happened.

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always been bad
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#31 peterw007
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You mean the Kyle Massey fish one? Then I agree.

Pixar still makes great movies (Excluding Up), and Princess and the Frog was actually pretty good. But thats still not enough to redeem them for being horrible.

Pixar movies are mainly the only reason I watch DC now. And P&F.

TrapJak

That's the one.

For those of you who don't know what we're talking about, watch the opening:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNwtdfKXSnY

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Yes, the show is as stupid as the opening.

Pixar had a bit of a slipup with Cars 2... I can say with authority that Cars 2 is the first Pixar movie I watched that felt like it had no soul.

Let's hope they redeem themselves with their next film Brave:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYg0VgPy6Uk

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Regardless, I'm probably going to be at the NYC premiere of Brave...I love Pixar to death.

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always been badUniverseIX
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[QUOTE="UniverseIX"]always been badharashawn
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[QUOTE="peterw007"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Worse, definately. Unless you count pixar (they own them now) otherwise it's not good.

For one thing what the hell is up with Disney channel? I have younger nephews and nieces that come over to my house and they turn on Disney Channel and there isn't a single cartoon on there. It's all this "tween wave" crap that they have on there like Hannah Montanna ect.. These shows look more like advertisements and trends than actual anything else. I don't know what happens but I'll be glad when this stuff finally blows over and some different trend starts, I just hope it isn't as bad.

As for Disney animation, I can't really remember the last time they made a move. I know they have done them but they just didn't look good. Although it's not animated but Pirates of the Carribeean is good so there is still some Disney magic in there somehwere.

ShadowMoses900

Phineas and Ferb is basically the only Disney cartoon they still make for television...and it's actually a good cartoon.

There is one other cartoon however...but it's atrociously bad. Not even worth naming.

I remember when I was a kid they had all kinds of cartoons on there like duck tails ect...

But know I'm just like "wtf?" you know.

Oh but princess and the frog was pretty good but I don't know if that was pixar or not, still some disney magic is in there. i just think they need to get rid of all this hanna montanna stuff and go back to being good. Hell even nickelodean has gone that way aswell. I don't watch these channels regularly or anything so I don't know, but when ever my younger family members come to visit they turn that stuff on and I can't understand what happened.

Don't even get me started on Nickelodeon. They now consist of only tween wave crap, and have several different channels running spongebob and showing reruns of it all day. They have the occasional avatar and dragon ball z but they've gone to **** too. And yes, I am a grown man in my 20's that still watches cartoons, if there were any. All I watch on tv now is jersey shore, wilfred, adventure time, regular show, and anything on boomerang.

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I think they are fine. It's just that people are getting older so they dont seem as wondrous to them anymore. But young kids still love them.

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Their broadcast programming has practically hit rock bottom compared to the efforts of Disneytoon Studios in the late 80s early 90s.

However, their feature films still have some weight. We all know the Renaissance starting in 1989 was their highest point since their start, but even the latest films haven't been ALL bad. As an avid Disney follower (from birth), I think they've slipped up several times like any other company. However, they are making an effort to turn things around, thanks in part (or entirely) to new management.

And regardless of the company's failures or successes with films/TV, their theme parks remain on top always. Never been to a more enjoyable theme park in my life.

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[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="UniverseIX"]always been badUniverseIX
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How could you say such a horrible thing? :cry:
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TV is getting worser and worser on it's Disney Cartoons. I miss the old cartoons like Ducktales and Recess

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I like how they're getting into more live action movies. The only thing that I really don't like is how Disney now completely owns Pixar, and has pretty much made it clear that Pixar won't be making anymore movies like Up or Wall-E. Though, Pixar's new movie, Brave looks pretty good. I'd say they're doing pretty good right now since the movies they're releasing are mostly pretty good, and I'd rather have good movies rather than a lot of mediocre ones.

I would like to see them care more about owning ABC and actually put a good show on ABC, especially after the ending of Lost (I don't watch it, but I heard from a lot of dedicated Lost fans that the ending was horrible). They definitely are doing good with ESPN, it's just ABC needs some help.

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Disney movies and themparks have always been great to me throughout my life.

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#41 VendettaRed07
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Well lets compare the diversity and originality of the Disney Channel original movies from the mid 90s to early 2000s

Suzie-Q

Brink

Johnny Tsunami

Gunther's Paint Ball Bergade

Under Wraps

Halloweentown I + II

Escape to Witch Mountain

You Lucky Dog

The Thirteenth Year

Horse Sense

Jump Ship

Alley Cats Strike

Moms got a Date with a Vampire

Quints

Stepsister from Planet Weird

Miracle in Lane 2

The Color of Friendship

Phantom of the Megaplex

The Luck of the Irish

Motocrossed

Get a Clue

Hounded

Twas' the Night

... Ok you get the idea.. These were all very different movies with their own unique concepts and morals and they all taught kids different life lessions and they were also funny and entertaining........but now lets look at what it looks like from 2006 to the present

Highschool Musical

Highschool Musical 2

Cheetagirls 2

Camp Rock

Camp Rock 2

Star Struck

Avalon high

and so on... Yes I know there was stuff like the Phineas and Ferb movie that I left out, but seriously almost EVERY SINGLE disney channel original movie, and disney show is all the same exact thing, getting famous in highschool and becoming a pop star.. It is insane.. All these movies do is have kids crave adolation and want to be better than everybody else .. Its really terrible. Their aren't any morals or lessons taught of be good to your family and friends anymore, its all about how getting rich and being famous is the best thing their is. It sucks

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Disney has aged like fine wine. Granted their best movies right now are coming from Pixar, but I loved The Princess and the Frog. Also the upcoming Chimpanzee movie from Disneynature looks like it will be very special.
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Disney Renaissance was the best. It was all downhill from there... except for Pixar.

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exactly what this guy said. Though "Princess and the Frog" i thought was great. Was happy to see Disney go back to what it's good at.
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#44 blueboxdoctor
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[QUOTE="CaptainAhab13"]

Disney Renaissance was the best. It was all downhill from there... except for Pixar.

SaudiFury

exactly what this guy said. Though "Princess and the Frog" i thought was great. Was happy to see Disney go back to what it's good at.

I think they're going more towards this style again. Somewhere I'm pretty sure I read something along the lines that they want to stop doing experimental stuff and go back to the classic type of movies they've done that are basically guaranteed to be good. Granted, when people get tired of this they'll probably go back to doing other types of movies again (like the Wall-E/Up type movies, but for now even Pixar is taking a hold on that since Disney now basically controls what they do).

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#45 Moriarity_
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Movies are great. Everything else hit rock bottom and is still dropping.