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They have a Presidential Hall of Fame? Why the hell would Bush be in the HoF?MattUD1
Bad people are famous. Everybody knows who Adolph Hitler was, but less people know of Charlemagne.
[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="MattUD1"]They have a Presidential Hall of Fame? Why the hell would Bush be in the HoF?MattUD1
Bad people are famous. Everybody knows who Adolph Hitler was, but less people know of Charlemagne.
French Emperor... Merovingian, correct?I thought he was German or Frank.
[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="MattUD1"]They have a Presidential Hall of Fame? Why the hell would Bush be in the HoF?Video_Game_King
Bad people are famous. Everybody knows who Adolph Hitler was, but less people know of Charlemagne.
French Emperor... Merovingian, correct?I thought he was German or Frank.
Perhaps he was Germanic... Early French history is a very large weakness of mine.[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="MattUD1"]They have a Presidential Hall of Fame? Why the hell would Bush be in the HoF?MattUD1
Bad people are famous. Everybody knows who Adolph Hitler was, but less people know of Charlemagne.
French Emperor... Merovingian, correct?I thought he was German or Frank.
Perhaps he was Germanic... Early French history is a very large weakness of mine.Turns out he was just Frank. Looked it up.
War in Iraq....... His fault too?mohan88
Yes, it is. He lied to the people, wasting taxpayer money, and everything he's said will happen if we leave happened by going there.
He will probably be remembered in the future as Truman. PS: Truman had the lowest approval ratings since polling and look at how we remember him today.LuminouslightTruman was almost a great president, but congress kept him from fulfilling his potential.
Wasn't Lincoln considered a "bad" president during his time?II-FBIsniper-II
Wasn't he facing an actual threat during his presidency?
[QUOTE="james28893"]He'll be remembered all right, but mostly for his mindless ramblings.Sajo7
I'll have you know that human-fish relations here in Michigan has improved drastically.
*Falls off Segway in amazement*.
He is a very good president.
And for people who say worst ever, you cant go lower than JFK, man that guy was bad.
He is a very good president.
And for people who say worst ever, you cant go lower than JFK, man that guy was bad.
kool-aids
He was assassinated, you have to love him.
He's probably the best president we've had. We only don't realize it, because he's fighting people brainwashed by the liberal media. However in 50 years or so, we'll realize he's the man that saved America from terrorismDivergeUnify
How has America been saved from terrorism?
[QUOTE="kool-aids"]And for people who say worst ever, you cant go lower than JFK, man that guy was bad.
Sajo7
A bit unfair don't you think? He didn't really get a solid chance at it.
Most of his beliefs were borderline communism, and he didnt want the CIA.
[QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="kool-aids"]And for people who say worst ever, you cant go lower than JFK, man that guy was bad.
kool-aids
A bit unfair don't you think? He didn't really get a solid chance at it.
Most of his beliefs were borderline communism, and he didnt want the CIA.
Namely? Medicare and Medicaid were the only policies I can remember that even vaguely hinted at socialist ideals.
[QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="kool-aids"]And for people who say worst ever, you cant go lower than JFK, man that guy was bad.
kool-aids
A bit unfair don't you think? He didn't really get a solid chance at it.
Most of his beliefs were borderline communism, and he didnt want the CIA.
Um...have you ever heard of the Bay of Pigs?
[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="mohan88"]War in Iraq....... His fault too?AmyMizuno
Yes, it is. He lied to the people, wasting taxpayer money, and everything he's said will happen if we leave happened by going there.
Don't you worry, why, Rush Limbaugh said the Iraqis would love us, and greet us with flowers. As I'm sure you know, Rush Limbaugh is never dishonest.:o You mean the Iraqis had flower guns? The hippies invaded Iraq before us! We need to bomb California :P!
[QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="kool-aids"]And for people who say worst ever, you cant go lower than JFK, man that guy was bad.
kool-aids
A bit unfair don't you think? He didn't really get a solid chance at it.
Most of his beliefs were borderline communism, and he didnt want the CIA.
And you think the world is a better place with the CIA?
[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]Wasn't Lincoln considered a "bad" president during his time?Video_Game_King
Wasn't he facing an actual threat during his presidency?
?George bush will undoubtably go down as one of the most unjustifably hated presidents in history.
George Bush is a frat boy who inherited the country (im stealing that line). He is a pupet. You can TELL he is not evil. Those who pull his strings, the neo-cons... now there you have a group of evil men.
Either way, in his term in office he has probably 'made' some of the most influential decisions on America's future. America is now embroiled in Vietnam Mark2, Desert version. He pushed America into a path of no return. She can't return because she is too proud to admit that she is actually losing a war to a bunch of pissed off teenagers, despite the fact that her soldiers kill thousands for every one of their own who dies.
But if anyone thinks he will realistically be remembered as one of the greatest presidents ever... haha... you have got to be kidding me. The words 'George Bush' resonate throughout the entire world as meaning 'complete chump', people in Africa will bring their kids up, telling them about how there was this total moron who entertained the world for 8 looooong years.
[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]Wasn't Lincoln considered a "bad" president during his time?DivergeUnify
Wasn't he facing an actual threat during his presidency?
?The Confederacy. They actually opened fire on federal property. He didn't want to go into war unless they wanted to first. The CSA attacked them.
Truman was almost a great president, but congress kept him from fulfilling his potential.[QUOTE="Luminouslight"]He will probably be remembered in the future as Truman. PS: Truman had the lowest approval ratings since polling and look at how we remember him today.A_Tarkovsky
sort of like Quincy Adams, I suppose.
George bush will undoubtably go down as one of the most unjustifably hated presidents in history.
George Bush is a frat boy who inherited the country (im stealing that line). He is a pupet. You can TELL he is not evil. Those who pull his strings, the neo-cons... now there you have a group of evil men.
Either way, in his term in office he has probably 'made' some of the most influential decisions on America's future. America is now embroiled in Vietnam Mark2, Desert version. He pushed America into a path of no return. She can't return because she is too proud to admit that she is actually losing a war to a bunch of pissed off teenagers, despite the fact that her soldiers kill thousands for every one of their own who dies.
But if anyone thinks he will realistically be remembered as one of the greatest presidents ever... haha... you have got to be kidding me. The words 'George Bush' resonate throughout the entire world as meaning 'complete chump', people in Africa will bring their kids up, telling them about how there was this total moron who entertained the world for 8 looooong years.
RKfromDownunder
Well thats your opinion.
And why Africa.
Bush will go down as one of the worst presidents in the history of the united states according to any objective historian.
I cant wait til I am a grandparent and my grandkids get a project about the early 21st century and they ask me whether or not Bush was the worst president alive.
If it is the cIass-clown hall of fame then yes. Every time he speaks he makes me laugh.foxhound_fox
He even invented a new game for us: Sad Libs :P.
[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]Wasn't Lincoln considered a "bad" president during his time?Video_Game_King
Wasn't he facing an actual threat during his presidency?
?The Confederacy. They actually opened fire on federal property. He didn't want to go into war unless they wanted to first. The CSA attacked them.
mkayhe's just another sub par president. There hasn't been a good one since the first T. Roosevelt. The best ever is Andrew Jackson imomohfrontline
We've been going downhill ever since Nixon (inclusive), and the last good president would be Kennedy in my opinion. And I didn't find AJ to be a good president. Exceeded his limit.
[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]Wasn't Lincoln considered a "bad" president during his time?Video_Game_King
Wasn't he facing an actual threat during his presidency?
?The Confederacy. They actually opened fire on federal property. He didn't want to go into war unless they wanted to first. The CSA attacked them.
I believe he went to war to preserve the union, not because the Confederacy attacked.I don't think the Confederacy had any reason to attack, all they had to do was defend at the start of the war/before.
[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]Wasn't Lincoln considered a "bad" president during his time?II-FBIsniper-II
Wasn't he facing an actual threat during his presidency?
?The Confederacy. They actually opened fire on federal property. He didn't want to go into war unless they wanted to first. The CSA attacked them.
I believe he went to war to preserve the union, not because the Confederacy attacked.I don't think the Confederacy had any reason to attack, all they had to do was defend at the start of the war/before.
No, they attacked. Yea, that was his reason (the Union thing), but he didn't start the war. It started once Confederate forces attacked Fort Sumter, which was still federal property of the Union.
[QUOTE="mohfrontline"]he's just another sub par president. There hasn't been a good one since the first T. Roosevelt. The best ever is Andrew Jackson imoVideo_Game_King
We've been going downhill ever since Nixon (inclusive), and the last good president would be Kennedy in my opinion. And I didn't find AJ to be a good president. Exceeded his limit.
Kennedy didn't do anything though :| He just sparked the idea of going to the moon. Reagan was a good president[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="mohfrontline"]he's just another sub par president. There hasn't been a good one since the first T. Roosevelt. The best ever is Andrew Jackson imoDivergeUnify
We've been going downhill ever since Nixon (inclusive), and the last good president would be Kennedy in my opinion. And I didn't find AJ to be a good president. Exceeded his limit.
Kennedy didn't do anything though :| He just sparked the idea of going to the moon. Reagan was a good presidentGood, but not legendary. Besides, opinions of him are fairly mixed. And I'm saying Kennedy because he's on the "Good President List" :P.
[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="mohfrontline"]he's just another sub par president. There hasn't been a good one since the first T. Roosevelt. The best ever is Andrew Jackson imoVideo_Game_King
We've been going downhill ever since Nixon (inclusive), and the last good president would be Kennedy in my opinion. And I didn't find AJ to be a good president. Exceeded his limit.
Kennedy didn't do anything though :| He just sparked the idea of going to the moon. Reagan was a good presidentGood, but not legendary. Besides, opinions of him are fairly mixed. And I'm saying Kennedy because he's on the "Good President List" :P.
meh- kennedy wasn't good nor horrible. he didn't have enough time- he's non existent :Pand Reagan was probably the best or second best president of 20th century :P
and on the good list, reagan is pretty legendary :P
I accept your opinion, though
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