Do you think the Iraq war justified?

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#1 LiquidAjax
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It did end a tryants rule, and got rid of weapons of mass destruction.
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#2 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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#3 BossPerson
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and got rid of weapons of mass destruction.LiquidAjax
...wat
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#4 LiquidAjax
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[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] and got rid of weapons of mass destruction.BossPerson
...wat

what did Saddam gas his own people with? Exactly. Just because there was no nukes, doesn't mean there wasn't weapons of mass destruction
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#5 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] and got rid of weapons of mass destruction.LiquidAjax
...wat

what did Saddam gas his own people with? Exactly. Just because there was no nukes, doesn't mean there wasn't weapons of mass destruction

I'm not sure if those are considered wmds
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#7 CycleOfViolence
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No.

We were led into the war under false pretenses.

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#8 Jebus213
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It did end a tryants rule, and got rid of weapons of mass destruction.LiquidAjax
We found WMD's? 8 years, a trillion dollars, and 100,000+ dead.
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#9 LJS9502_basic
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No I do not....
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#10 hippiesanta
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yes... or else Uday Hussien will rape more schoolgirls and dump them at the river
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#11 Rattlesnake_8
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It did end a tryants rule, and got rid of weapons of mass destruction.LiquidAjax
What weapons of mass destruction? They never found any!
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#12 strategyfn
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No, was Hitler justified in invading Poland. For the sake of world peace, a countrys' soveriegn borders deserve to be respected imo, unless you are given a solid reason to attack.

The USA, Britain and France have chemical/biological weapons; should Russia or some other country give the same reason to invade those countries?

Besides if Iraq tried anything against the USA, the USA could just wipe the floor with them.

It's my opinion the war wasn't justified, but that's just what it is an opinion, much like pro-war people have theirs.

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#13 outworld222
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] and got rid of weapons of mass destruction.LiquidAjax
...wat

what did Saddam gas his own people with? Exactly. Just because there was no nukes, doesn't mean there wasn't weapons of mass destruction

You're under the false perception that Saddam had WMD in 2003 when we invaded. He did use them, but that was in the 1980s. They were all destroyed after the Gulf war in the 90s. Meaning he had NO WEAPONS, and the war was just some sort of military adventurism that didn't pay off since we left Iraq about a year ago.
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#14 lamprey263
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Saddam had chemical weapons many years back, used them in the Iran-Iraq War, even had a nuclear weapons program, but after the Gulf War he was supposed to dismantle them and over the years he did, gave enough evidence to UN inspectors to show lots of work was done but in other regards wouldn't allow them enough access to conclusively prove 100% of the weapons we dismantled interviews with Saddam by the FBI before he was executed said Saddam's purposeful ambiguity regarding WMD dismantling was done to deter Iran from any aggression, he didn't want to advertise they'd been disposed of even though he did follow through on it, he wanted to leave enough doubt so Iran would never consider attacking his country overall I wouldn't say the Iraq War was justified, first off there's the cost in dollars and in lives, and the reduction of necessary military resources from Afghanistan, it was a blight on the integrity of US leadership around the world, our cherry picked intelligence proved to be faulty, people like to say stuff like oil was the reason go to war though I highly doubt this as the motive, though military conflicts in the Middle East do cause the price of oil to go up, so energy groups that produce and sell gasoline would make a killing regardless of an increased access of oil rather they make huge profits after oil prices sore, but even then I feel issues regarding rebuilding and logistics contracts to private third parties without any bidding process to be where the real corruption lies, like the reason to have a war is to have a war, but those corporate connections came from Cheney's end, I feel as far as Bush was concerned that his motives simply lied in the vanity of having a war
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#15 jim_shorts
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No way. It's the worst decision of the Bush presidency and will tarnish his otherwise not so bad presidency.

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#16 WhiteKnight77
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I'll just leave this here that showed even Nancy Pelosi knew that 500 shells were found after 2003.

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#17 WhiteKnight77
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[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]...watBossPerson
what did Saddam gas his own people with? Exactly. Just because there was no nukes, doesn't mean there wasn't weapons of mass destruction

I'm not sure if those are considered wmds

What do you call mustard gas artillery shells then? What about VX gas?

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#18 PernicioEnigma
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It did end a tryants rule, and got rid of weapons of mass destruction.LiquidAjax
You mean the imaginary WMD's?
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#19 Zeviander
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War committed in aggression is never justified.
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#20 tocool340
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No......

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#21 kuraimen
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Fvck no only to further US imperialist delusions but not much else.
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#22 LiquidAjax
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I'll just leave this here that showed even Nancy Pelosi knew that 500 shells were found after 2003.

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#23 thebest31406
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It did end a tryants rule, and got rid of weapons of mass destruction.LiquidAjax
1. Not a justifiable reason to go war with another country 2. No WMD's were found.
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#24 LiquidAjax
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[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"]It did end a tryants rule, and got rid of weapons of mass destruction.thebest31406
1. Not a justifiable reason to go war with another country 2. No WMD's were found.

Chemical weapons are WMD's. They were found. Read the thread.
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#25 thebest31406
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[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"]It did end a tryants rule, and got rid of weapons of mass destruction.LiquidAjax
1. Not a justifiable reason to go war with another country 2. No WMD's were found.

Chemical weapons are WMD's. They were found. Read the thread.

During the lead up to the 2003 war, the UN inspectors found no stockpiles of WMDs. But even if they did, that still doesn't justify war.
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#26 LiquidAjax
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[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] 1. Not a justifiable reason to go war with another country 2. No WMD's were found.

Chemical weapons are WMD's. They were found. Read the thread.

During the lead up to the 2003 war, the UN inspectors found no stockpiles of WMDs. But even if they did, that still doesn't justify war.

They were found. The inspectors weren't allowed in anyways. Yes that does justify a war, because they were used on their own people.
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#27 thebest31406
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[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] Chemical weapons are WMD's. They were found. Read the thread.

During the lead up to the 2003 war, the UN inspectors found no stockpiles of WMDs. But even if they did, that still doesn't justify war.

They were found. The inspectors weren't allowed in anyways. Yes that does justify a war, because they were used on their own people.

War is only justified if state attacks or plans to attack the US. Also, when did Saddam use weapons against his people?
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#28 LiquidAjax
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[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] During the lead up to the 2003 war, the UN inspectors found no stockpiles of WMDs. But even if they did, that still doesn't justify war.

They were found. The inspectors weren't allowed in anyways. Yes that does justify a war, because they were used on their own people.

War is only justified if state attacks or plans to attack the US. Also, when did Saddam use weapons against his people?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack Do you people know anything about the world? Seriously?
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#29 thebest31406
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[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] They were found. The inspectors weren't allowed in anyways. Yes that does justify a war, because they were used on their own people.

War is only justified if state attacks or plans to attack the US. Also, when did Saddam use weapons against his people?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack Do you people know anything about the world? Seriously?

Then you must know that this was also the same time period in which Bush Sr. supported the war crime by politically and financially backing saddam up until 1990. This was after saddam gassed his people. So I suspect that in addition to supporting the Iraq war, you're also in support of prosecuting Bush Sr. and his administration?
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#30 LiquidAjax
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[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] War is only justified if state attacks or plans to attack the US. Also, when did Saddam use weapons against his people?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack Do you people know anything about the world? Seriously?

Then you must know that this was also the same time period in which Bush Sr. supported the war crime by politically and financially backing saddam up until 1990. This was after saddam gassed his people. So I suspect that in addition to supporting the Iraq war, you're also in support of prosecuting Bush Sr. and his administration?

You're an idiot.
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#31 thebest31406
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[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack Do you people know anything about the world? Seriously?

Then you must know that this was also the same time period in which Bush Sr. supported the war crime by politically and financially backing saddam up until 1990. This was after saddam gassed his people. So I suspect that in addition to supporting the Iraq war, you're also in support of prosecuting Bush Sr. and his administration?

You're an idiot.

I'll take that as a no.
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#32 LiquidAjax
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[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] Then you must know that this was also the same time period in which Bush Sr. supported the war crime by politically and financially backing saddam up until 1990. This was after saddam gassed his people. So I suspect that in addition to supporting the Iraq war, you're also in support of prosecuting Bush Sr. and his administration?

You're an idiot.

I'll take that as a no.

Sure lets take part of a scenario, and use it to prove our point. George Bush SR is a war criminal, you're the smartest person alive.
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#33 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack Do you people know anything about the world? Seriously?

Then you must know that this was also the same time period in which Bush Sr. supported the war crime by politically and financially backing saddam up until 1990. This was after saddam gassed his people. So I suspect that in addition to supporting the Iraq war, you're also in support of prosecuting Bush Sr. and his administration?

You're an idiot.

Lol you got cornered dude
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#34 LiquidAjax
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] Then you must know that this was also the same time period in which Bush Sr. supported the war crime by politically and financially backing saddam up until 1990. This was after saddam gassed his people. So I suspect that in addition to supporting the Iraq war, you're also in support of prosecuting Bush Sr. and his administration?

You're an idiot.

Lol you got cornered dude

Yeah because the CIA supporting Iraq fighting Iran for stability in the region is the same as george bush supporting genocide. You're just as much of an idiot as he is.
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#35 jetpower3
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The more time goes by, the less justified it seems, especially in light of the Arab Spring, which is starting to be revitalized in Iraq's Sunni heartland as we speak, and the sheer amount of influence and leverage both Al Qaeda and Iran now have in the country.

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#36 ShoTTyMcNaDeS
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Part of me feels that it was justified because Saddam had to be dealt with and was! Then there is the other part of me that wishes that we as a nation would stop being the global Police force. The trillions of dollars that have been spent on the Iraq war and the pursuit of Al-Queda could have been spent on a lot of things here at home! The problem is that nobody else will stand up to these people. Canada is non commital and the European nations are a bunch of pansies in all honesty, so that leaves us, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!
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#37 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] During the lead up to the 2003 war, the UN inspectors found no stockpiles of WMDs. But even if they did, that still doesn't justify war.

They were found. The inspectors weren't allowed in anyways. Yes that does justify a war, because they were used on their own people.

War is only justified if state attacks or plans to attack the US. Also, when did Saddam use weapons against his people?

Dude seriously. I'm not for the Iraq War but that is common knowledge.:|
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#38 LiquidAjax
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] They were found. The inspectors weren't allowed in anyways. Yes that does justify a war, because they were used on their own people.

War is only justified if state attacks or plans to attack the US. Also, when did Saddam use weapons against his people?

Dude seriously. I'm not for the Iraq War but that is common knowledge.:|

People only know what they're told them these days and they don't pay attention much.
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#39 thebest31406
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[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] They were found. The inspectors weren't allowed in anyways. Yes that does justify a war, because they were used on their own people.LJS9502_basic
War is only justified if state attacks or plans to attack the US. Also, when did Saddam use weapons against his people?

Dude seriously. I'm not for the Iraq War but that is common knowledge.:|

Did you bother to read the following post? No, of course not.

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#40 LiquidAjax
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[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] War is only justified if state attacks or plans to attack the US. Also, when did Saddam use weapons against his people?

Dude seriously. I'm not for the Iraq War but that is common knowledge.:|

Did you bother to read the following post? No, of course not?

He probably did and ignored it because of how ignorant and trolling it was.
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#41 thebest31406
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[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Dude seriously. I'm not for the Iraq War but that is common knowledge.:|LiquidAjax
Did you bother to read the following post? No, of course not?

He probably did and ignored it because of how ignorant and trolling it was.

ok...

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#42 GreySeal9
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No, it wasn't, and I honestly question the judgment of people who still think it was.

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#43 LiquidAjax
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No, it wasn't, and I honestly question the judgment of people who still think it was.

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#44 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

No, it wasn't, and I honestly question the judgment of people who still think it was.

LiquidAjax

So ignorant.

Coming from somebody who thinks the Iraq War was justified, I'll go ahead and take that as a compliment.

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#45 LiquidAjax
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[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

No, it wasn't, and I honestly question the judgment of people who still think it was.

GreySeal9

So ignorant.

Coming from somebody who thinks the Iraq War was justified, I'll go ahead and take that as a compliment.

We went there for the right reasons. Now a mad man doesn't have chemical weapons.
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#46 Palantas
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I don't think "justified" is a concept that necessarily applies to war. I do think the Iraq war was a mismanaged bungle of the highest order.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] War is only justified if state attacks or plans to attack the US. Also, when did Saddam use weapons against his people?thebest31406

Dude seriously. I'm not for the Iraq War but that is common knowledge.:|

Did you bother to read the following post? No, of course not.

I did. It wasn't on point and frankly was a bit silly.
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#48 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] So ignorant.LiquidAjax

Coming from somebody who thinks the Iraq War was justified, I'll go ahead and take that as a compliment.

We went there for the right reasons. Now a mad man doesn't have chemical weapons.

That ridiculous logic could be used to justify sooooo many wars, which is the reason that war should almost always be used as a last resort.

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#49 LiquidAjax
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[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Coming from somebody who thinks the Iraq War was justified, I'll go ahead and take that as a compliment.

GreySeal9

We went there for the right reasons. Now a mad man doesn't have chemical weapons.

That ridiculous logic could be used to justify sooooo many wars, which is the reason that war should almost always be used as a last resort.

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#50 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] We went there for the right reasons. Now a mad man doesn't have chemical weapons.LiquidAjax

That ridiculous logic could be used to justify sooooo many wars, which is the reason that war should almost always be used as a last resort.

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