Do You Think The Men's Right's Movement Is Silly?

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"] If you've ever been on one of those MRA sites you'll see pretty quick that the vast majority of the "movement" is made up of young teenagers and those who chronically blame others for their own failings. Mahlasor would fit right in.mahlasor

I bet that is the case. The overwhelming majority of mature men that I know don't buy into that stuff.

  Apeal to redicule fallacy, sir..  How old are you, I feel like I am listening to texts of a child.  Children can not think analytical very well, they always will resort to emotionally charged statements.  So what are these "mature men?"  Please tell me their properties.

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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I bet that is the case. The overwhelming majority of mature men that I know don't buy into that stuff.

PannicAtack

  Apeal to redicule fallacy, sir..  How old are you, I feel like I am listening to texts of a child.  Children can not think analytical very well, they always will resort to emotionally charged statements.  So what are these "mature men?"  Please tell me their properties.

Spelling and analytical thinking are irrevocably linked

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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I bet that is the case. The overwhelming majority of mature men that I know don't buy into that stuff.

GreySeal9

  Apeal to redicule fallacy, sir..  How old are you, I feel like I am listening to texts of a child.  Children can not think analytical very well, they always will resort to emotionally charged statements.  So what are these "mature men?"  Please tell me their properties.

Calm your t!ts, mahlasor.

One property of mature men is that they are not MRAs.

  So what?  I think you are just jelous because you know you dont have the balls to lead females in a relationship.  So you are trying to convince yourself that somehow that is a good thing, convenient simpleton thinking.  I guarentee you if you were working with me, you wouldnt even dare make insults towards me or be disliked by everyone...  Or just fired.  Notice how I dominate the thread and everyone just seems to be talking about me?  AHAHAHHAHAHAHA  On the other hand you probably just keep your feelings locked up inside, never to let out, because deep down you know you are just jelous of me.

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  Apeal to redicule fallacy, sir..  How old are you, I feel like I am listening to texts of a child.  Children can not think analytical very well, they always will resort to emotionally charged statements.  So what are these "mature men?"  Please tell me their properties.

mahlasor

Calm your t!ts, mahlasor.

One property of mature men is that they are not MRAs.

  So what?  I think you are just jelous because you know you dont have the balls to lead females in a relationship.  So you are trying to convince yourself that somehow that is a good thing, convenient simpleton thinking.  I guarentee you if you were working with me, you wouldnt even dare make insults towards me or be disliked by everyone...  Or just fired.  Notice how I dominate the thread and everyone just seems to be talking about me?  AHAHAHHAHAHAHA  On the other hand you probably just keep your feelings locked up inside, never to let out, because deep down you know you are just jelous of me.

Jealous of what? Your inability to spell correctly?

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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

That's what I was thinking. mahlasor is a manbaby. Unfortunately, manbabyism is an epidemic among the MRA community. :(

coolbeans90

  Whatever Mr. 22,000 posts.  An indicator of what your face looks like, I show you mine if you show me yours?  

Edit:  I mean, you are the one making the claim, you need to support your claim.  You seem to be taking a position that you are tough and I am weaker than you?  Post your face and we can determine then who is really the manbaby.  I guarentee in real life you wouldnt even say that no matter how much you want to.  Knowing how pathetic your attempts at attacking my character yours are.

edit2: the funny thing is, I am not even a MRA, but I dont disagree with them.

What the fvck did you just fvcking say about me, you little b!tch? Ill have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and Ive been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and Im the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fvck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fvcking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fvcker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. Youre fvcking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and thats just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little clever comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fvcking tongue. But you couldnt, you didnt, and now youre paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will sh!t fury all over you and you will drown in it. Youre fvcking dead, kiddo.

  That is funny, because people call me Rambo, I kid you not.

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[QUOTE="mahlasor"]

  Apeal to redicule fallacy, sir..  How old are you, I feel like I am listening to texts of a child.  Children can not think analytical very well, they always will resort to emotionally charged statements.  So what are these "mature men?"  Please tell me their properties.

mahlasor

Calm your t!ts, mahlasor.

One property of mature men is that they are not MRAs.

  So what?  I think you are just jelous because you know you dont have the balls to lead females in a relationship.  So you are trying to convince yourself that somehow that is a good thing, convenient simpleton thinking.  I guarentee you if you were working with me, you wouldnt even dare make insults towards me or be disliked by everyone...  Or just fired.  Notice how I dominate the thread and everyone just seems to be talking about me?  AHAHAHHAHAHAHA  On the other hand you probably just keep your feelings locked up inside, never to let out, because deep down you know you are just jelous of me.

[QUOTE="mahlasor"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Calm your t!ts, mahlasor.

One property of mature men is that they are not MRAs.

GreySeal9

  So what?  I think you are just jelous because you know you dont have the balls to lead females in a relationship.  So you are trying to convince yourself that somehow that is a good thing, convenient simpleton thinking.  I guarentee you if you were working with me, you wouldnt even dare make insults towards me or be disliked by everyone...  Or just fired.  Notice how I dominate the thread and everyone just seems to be talking about me?  AHAHAHHAHAHAHA  On the other hand you probably just keep your feelings locked up inside, never to let out, because deep down you know you are just jelous of me.

Jealous of what? Your inability to spell correctly?

  You are jelous because you know I am a better man than you are.  I can see the defense mechanisms raging right now.

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[QUOTE="mahlasor"]

  So what?  I think you are just jelous because you know you dont have the balls to lead females in a relationship.  So you are trying to convince yourself that somehow that is a good thing, convenient simpleton thinking.  I guarentee you if you were working with me, you wouldnt even dare make insults towards me or be disliked by everyone...  Or just fired.  Notice how I dominate the thread and everyone just seems to be talking about me?  AHAHAHHAHAHAHA  On the other hand you probably just keep your feelings locked up inside, never to let out, because deep down you know you are just jelous of me.

mahlasor

Jealous of what? Your inability to spell correctly?

  You are jelous because you know I am a better man than you are.  I can see the defense mechanisms raging right now.

lol. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

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[QUOTE="mahlasor"]

  So what?  I think you are just jelous because you know you dont have the balls to lead females in a relationship.  So you are trying to convince yourself that somehow that is a good thing, convenient simpleton thinking.  I guarentee you if you were working with me, you wouldnt even dare make insults towards me or be disliked by everyone...  Or just fired.  Notice how I dominate the thread and everyone just seems to be talking about me?  AHAHAHHAHAHAHA  On the other hand you probably just keep your feelings locked up inside, never to let out, because deep down you know you are just jelous of me.

mahlasor

Jealous of what? Your inability to spell correctly?

  You are jelous because you know I am a better man than you are.  I can see the defense mechanisms raging right now.

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[QUOTE="mahlasor"]

  Whatever Mr. 22,000 posts.  An indicator of what your face looks like, I show you mine if you show me yours?  

Edit:  I mean, you are the one making the claim, you need to support your claim.  You seem to be taking a position that you are tough and I am weaker than you?  Post your face and we can determine then who is really the manbaby.  I guarentee in real life you wouldnt even say that no matter how much you want to.  Knowing how pathetic your attempts at attacking my character yours are.

edit2: the funny thing is, I am not even a MRA, but I dont disagree with them.

mahlasor

What the fvck did you just fvcking say about me, you little b!tch? Ill have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and Ive been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and Im the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fvck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fvcking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fvcker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. Youre fvcking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and thats just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little clever comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fvcking tongue. But you couldnt, you didnt, and now youre paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will sh!t fury all over you and you will drown in it. Youre fvcking dead, kiddo.

  That is funny, because people call me Rambo, I kid you not.

u are 1 fvcking cheeky kunt mate i swear i am goin 2 wreck u i swear on my mums life and i no u are scared lil b!tch gettin your mates to send me messages saying dont meet up coz u r sum big bastard with muscles lol fvckin sad mate really sad jus shows what a scared lil gay boy u are and whats all this crap ur mates sendin me about sum bodybuildin website that 1 of your faverite places to look at men u lil fvckin gay boy fone me if u got da balls cheeky prick see if u can step up lil *****

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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Jealous of what? Your inability to spell correctly?

GreySeal9

  You are jelous because you know I am a better man than you are.  I can see the defense mechanisms raging right now.

lol. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

  It is kind of nice when I go to sleep and I just keep having memories of my self winning in life come up.  Like despite the changes in life, I have always won the crowd over.  Had the women swoon to my side.  One girl...  She grabbed my butt like when I was focusing on something, and its like..  Am I that hot and sexy?  Its fun being me because girls dont complain when I give them attention, like a guy like you.  I am guessing that they see you as a "creep," but me I get away with it because they like me so much.  Ever wonder why girls like jerks so much?  

  Now my issue in life is that there are not enough hot chicks to oogle at in life, too many ugly ducklings out there.  I blame feminism, with MRA, we will have the sexy hawt chicks more and more.  :)

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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

What the fvck did you just fvcking say about me, you little b!tch? Ill have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and Ive been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and Im the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fvck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fvcking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fvcker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. Youre fvcking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and thats just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little clever comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fvcking tongue. But you couldnt, you didnt, and now youre paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will sh!t fury all over you and you will drown in it. Youre fvcking dead, kiddo.

coolbeans90

  That is funny, because people call me Rambo, I kid you not.

u are 1 fvcking cheeky kunt mate i swear i am goin 2 wreck u i swear on my mums life and i no u are scared lil b!tch gettin your mates to send me messages saying dont meet up coz u r sum big bastard with muscles lol fvckin sad mate really sad jus shows what a scared lil gay boy u are and whats all this crap ur mates sendin me about sum bodybuildin website that 1 of your faverite places to look at men u lil fvckin gay boy fone me if u got da balls cheeky prick see if u can step up lil *****

  Got a pen and paper, I will be waiting, at your  mom's house.

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[QUOTE="mahlasor"]

  That is funny, because people call me Rambo, I kid you not.

mahlasor

u are 1 fvcking cheeky kunt mate i swear i am goin 2 wreck u i swear on my mums life and i no u are scared lil b!tch gettin your mates to send me messages saying dont meet up coz u r sum big bastard with muscles lol fvckin sad mate really sad jus shows what a scared lil gay boy u are and whats all this crap ur mates sendin me about sum bodybuildin website that 1 of your faverite places to look at men u lil fvckin gay boy fone me if u got da balls cheeky prick see if u can step up lil *****

  Got a pen and paper, I will be waiting, at your  mom's house.

You should have more respect for the faithful departed.

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Jealous of what? Your inability to spell correctly?

Ace6301

  You are jelous because you know I am a better man than you are.  I can see the defense mechanisms raging right now.

  I dont need to, but people like it when I do, in fact, they wait for it.  Its like if I dont, people think something is wrong suddenly.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="mahlasor"]

  You are jelous because you know I am a better man than you are.  I can see the defense mechanisms raging right now.

mahlasor

  I dont need to, but people like it when I do, in fact, they wait for it.  Its like if I dont, people think something is wrong suddenly.

real funny ******. you think this is a joke?

yea making fun of me is so funny, so funny i forgot to laugh. If you wanna talk like that to me why don't you come here and say it to me face so i can answer your insults with a swift fist to the nose. yea you have a lot to say from hundreds of miles away but i bet if my fists were in reach of your face you would be like a tv on mute with no volume button So do yourself a favor and keep your mouth shut unless you want to die. Next time you think about saying something like that to me I want you to remember one thing. I know the guy that created google maps and I can locate you in the time it took me to type this.Don't want anymore problems....didn't think so. You have any idea what gorilla warfare is? I do, I was in the US Marine Corp. and I perfected it. I'm fully capable of using it on you motherfvckers. Do you know the dander you're in if I find you? I am 100$ serious. Bunch of god damn newfan loser here and I will not have it. At least I've had sex, had girlfriends, and gotten laid, and blowjobbed unlike you virgin pieces of unpatriotic SHlT!

i will be the manliest MRA on the internet with the biggest e-muscles and e-peen before this is over

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"] I am very jealous of a man who feels the need to tout how manly he is to people on the internet. Yes indeed. Ace6301

  I dont need to, but people like it when I do, in fact, they wait for it.  Its like if I dont, people think something is wrong suddenly.

  Your act is pretty poor?  And?

edit: Yeah people probably like my confident attitude.  I guess it makes the job more fun for them and adds meaning to their life.  So going to work is not such a drag..  Never really thought about it that way.  Too bad I just quit a job due to a couple poeple being emotional tards.  I know when I left (I can get money from this situation), it was gonna bring the place down in terms of mood...:?  Oh well, I was wanting time to move out so I can move into this awesome new house.  Forget apartments.  

i will be the manliest MRA on the internet with the biggest e-muscles and e-peen before this is over

coolbeans90

   Well is this really how you think MRA's act?  Because that would explain a lot in this thread.

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i will be the manliest MRA on the internet with the biggest e-muscles and e-peen before this is over

mahlasor

   Well is this really how you think MRA's act?  Because that would explain a lot in this thread.

It is actually how they act. It's like if the worst feminists on the internet had a sex change, and it is glorious. I never EVER want them to leave.

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[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] Did you use to take mahlasor seriously?Ace6301

That's what I was thinking. mahlasor is a manbaby. Unfortunately, manbabyism is an epidemic among the MRA community. :(

edit: Yeah people probably like my confident attitude.  I guess it makes the job more fun for them and adds meaning to their life.  So going to work is not such a drag..  Never really thought about it that way.  Too bad I just quit a job due to a couple poeple being emotional tards.  I know when I left (I can get money from this situation), it was gonna bring the place down in terms of mood...:?  Oh well, I was wanting time to move out so I can move into this awesome new house.  Forget apartments.  

mahlasor

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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

i will be the manliest MRA on the internet with the biggest e-muscles and e-peen before this is over

coolbeans90

   Well is this really how you think MRA's act?  Because that would explain a lot in this thread.

It is actually how they act. It's like if the worst feminists on the internet had a sex change, and it is glorious. I never EVER want them to leave.

  Burden is on you to show proof of that, we already got a video of a feminist, but I dont think we can find lots of video of men shouting and being irrational. I look up MRA's on youtube.  This is what I find.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0fMMhbbea8  

No I dont think there silly and TBH, most comments on them must be really mis-informed or have a very different version of them in their country I think a big part of their image part though is that people mistake their view on their issues assume in that MRM's think that their issues are just as bad as the ones spoken about by feminists when realistically the issue is that compared to feminism, their issues are belittled and even completely ignored in some cases in the media and in society in general.Zuzuvela

  Yeah, I just covered that, some guy is acting and using run on sentences and then going on like "yeah see that, that is how MRA's are!"  I am not sure if he is a liar, or he actually believes that.  Problem with these particular posters is they usually react to new information with outdated information and rely on their emotional memory or something...

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[QUOTE="mahlasor"]

   Well is this really how you think MRA's act?  Because that would explain a lot in this thread.

mahlasor

It is actually how they act. It's like if the worst feminists on the internet had a sex change, and it is glorious. I never EVER want them to leave.

  Burden is on you to show proof of that, we already got a video of a feminist, but I dont think we can find lots of video of men shouting and being irrational. I look up MRA's on youtube.  This is what I find.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0fMMhbbea8  

Burden of proof? I'm just ROLFING at sh!t (and idiots) I see on the internet, specifically MRA's. They also don't have to "shout" for me to make fun of them.

Also, look through your posting history. It is p. lulzy.

  Got a pen and paper, I will be waiting, at your  mom's house.

mahlasor

sorry kid. you gotta be at least 13 to use these forums.

[QUOTE="mahlasor"]

  Got a pen and paper, I will be waiting, at your  mom's house.

Jimn_tonic

sorry kid. you gotta be at least 13 to use these forums.

[QUOTE="mahlasor"]

edit: Yeah people probably like my confident attitude.  I guess it makes the job more fun for them and adds meaning to their life.  So going to work is not such a drag..  Never really thought about it that way.  Too bad I just quit a job due to a couple poeple being emotional tards.  I know when I left (I can get money from this situation), it was gonna bring the place down in terms of mood...:?  Oh well, I was wanting time to move out so I can move into this awesome new house.  Forget apartments.  

Ace6301

[QUOTE="mahlasor"]

  Got a pen and paper, I will be waiting, at your  mom's house.

Jimn_tonic

sorry kid. you gotta be at least 13 to use these forums.

  Whatever old man, I think you are too old for these forums.

edit: also your post count sucks, noob.  Btw anyone notice all the pro feminists have high post counts?

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[QUOTE="mahlasor"]

  Got a pen and paper, I will be waiting, at your  mom's house.

Ace6301

sorry kid. you gotta be at least 13 to use these forums.

  Yeah this guy, its not could not, its "would not."  As in, that sh1t is beneath me.  Yeah it was a job working with people who have been in jail for 15 years.  I actually worked with a guy who looked exactly like Trayvon Martin.  Retard quit without sayying anything, just simply did not show up.  Basically when the communication sucks and no one is listening to what anyone says and everyone is acting like a chicken with its head cut off.  Time to put that job down...  Like a boss.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Jimn_tonic"]

sorry kid. you gotta be at least 13 to use these forums.

mahlasor

  Yeah this guy, its not could not, its "would not."  As in, that sh1t is beneath me.  Yeah it was a job working with people who have been in jail for 15 years.  I actually worked with a guy who looked exactly like Trayvon Martin.  Retard quit without sayying anything, just simply did not show up.  Basically when the communication sucks and no one is listening to what anyone says and everyone is acting like a chicken with its head cut off.  Time to put that job down...  Like a boss.

I do agree with child support and divorce.  It usually leaves the man penniless and in lawyer debt.  While the woman happily tramples all over it and takes the kid.

This Is why I would be VERY careful if I get married.

I do agree with child support and divorce.  It usually leaves the man penniless and in lawyer debt.  While the woman happily tramples all over it and takes the kid.

 

This Is why I would be VERY careful if I get married.

GOGOGOGURT

I don't really want to associate with the MRA, but there are some equalities in the courts in terms of child custody, and who gets what in divorce.

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

I do agree with child support and divorce.  It usually leaves the man penniless and in lawyer debt.  While the woman happily tramples all over it and takes the kid.

 

This Is why I would be VERY careful if I get married.

Ace6301

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

I do agree with child support and divorce.  It usually leaves the man penniless and in lawyer debt.  While the woman happily tramples all over it and takes the kid.

 

This Is why I would be VERY careful if I get married.

Ace6301

The judicial system and f*cking lawyers that have done this.  The drunken father who beats the wife and kids, and refuses to give child support is in the minority.  It's mostly been popularized by hollywood movies.

Most of the time the father still loves the child, and will pay child support, and if he doesn't it's because he can't afford it.  It's absurdly expensive, and most of the cost is unfounded.  It doesn't cost that much to support the child, especially if the mother has a job, which is usually the case.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

I do agree with child support and divorce.  It usually leaves the man penniless and in lawyer debt.  While the woman happily tramples all over it and takes the kid.

 

This Is why I would be VERY careful if I get married.

Zuzuvela

I take MRA's about as seriously as Christians who think they're persecuted in the US.

metroidfood

I take them as seriously as Women's Rights Activists, Christians claiming persecution and Jewish people named Wilfred.

Without doing a whole long speel, for which i neither have the desire or energy to go into a long debate. I have to go - again - with just about everything Rhazakna has said so far on the topic. i'm pretty much just like him on the topic of feminism/masculinism. 

Also just listening to proponents on either side just give me a headache.  I agree with the most basic definition of feminism, but before the internet's keyboard warriors claim me as one of their own, i got very little in common or agreement with a lot of social-feminists underlying theories such as the patriarchy. 

I often see both the feminist and mra people arguements and theories as a mobius strip, irregardless of their position they will flip it and claim to be a victim of  their opponents prejudices or by an abstract concept that they've formulated. 

If they're fvcking with extremist feminists that's alright with me.

[QUOTE="mahlasor"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] Whoa now, he studied criminal justice man! Then quit his job because he couldn't deal with drama. Ace6301

  Yeah this guy, its not could not, its "would not."  As in, that sh1t is beneath me.  Yeah it was a job working with people who have been in jail for 15 years.  I actually worked with a guy who looked exactly like Trayvon Martin.  Retard quit without sayying anything, just simply did not show up.  Basically when the communication sucks and no one is listening to what anyone says and everyone is acting like a chicken with its head cut off.  Time to put that job down...  Like a boss.

  Meh, I always have my cards played out, full deck, too bad a lot of them cant be used at the momment.  I always have a wild card just in case.  Right now I get to go into a new home that is better than the apartment I just escaped from.  So lose some, win some.  I also was dealing with a tenant who is a retard, you know, cant have a problem without being rude about it.  So stuff like that makes me think twice before going into criminal justice, I rather wait until I got more in my life before accepting that responsibility.  But yeah, there was a factory that would be a career type job that usually have openings, but THIS year, they downsized, right when I was ready to go into it...  Everything just seems to go South on me.  Kind of frustrating knowing that there are so many jobs I could easily do, but because the way things are, its just like being randomly picked.  Especially sincee getting a job is all on the internet, there is no examination, they just guess what they think your job history means.

Without doing a whole long speel, for which i neither have the desire or energy to go into a long debate. I have to go - again - with just about everything Rhazakna has said so far on the topic. i'm pretty much just like him on the topic of feminism/masculinism. 

 

Also just listening to proponents on either side just give me a headache.  I agree with the most basic definition of feminism, but before the internet's keyboard warriors claim me as one of their own, i got very little in common or agreement with a lot of social-feminists underlying theories such as the patriarchy. 

I often see both the feminist and mra people arguements and theories as a mobius strip, irregardless of their position they will flip it and claim to be a victim of  their opponents prejudices or by an abstract concept that they've formulated. 

 

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