Do you think the Republican party still has a shot?

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Dude do you really think Republicans wake up everyday and then think to themselves that they're going to screw over women (Sarah Palin says hi btw), education, etc. Seriously.

kingkong0124

Do you really think I'm racist rofl? I'm a big fan of sports, and all of my favorite teams are filled with black people...

While the GOP have a weak ticket this year Obama does not have this election locked in by any means.

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Dude do you really think Republicans wake up everyday and then think to themselves that they're going to screw over women (Sarah Palin says hi btw), education, etc. Seriously.

kingkong0124

Do you really think I'm racist rofl? I'm a big fan of sports, and all of my favorite teams are filled with black people...

Marge Schott was a big sports fan too.

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] im not a racist, I have black friends.

worlock77

Do you really think I'm racist rofl? I'm a big fan of sports, and all of my favorite teams are filled with black people...

Marge Schott was a big sports fan too.

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[QUOTE="slowpokebro"] Here is the thing I read. Pretty interesting.GIJames248

Ron Paul knows the constitution better than the other two? Ron Paul's views on the constitution go against a hundred and fifty years of judicial precedents and ignores many of the amendments. He has introduced a bill into the house more than once that would allow the states to ignore the first and fourth amendments in many cases, and he would allow state governments to crush personal freedoms. He's as much of a liar as any of them.

He wants to limit the power of the government and focus the remainder of that power in the state governments so people actually have say about how they are governed and not people in California or Texas who decide to impose their views on everyone else. I really have no idea how you could think he is against personal liberty.

He wants to completely nueter the federal government to where it has vitually no power, and allow competing currencies. We tried that. It's called the articles of confederation, and it sucked balls. That's why we have the constitution and why the civil war happened.

Yes, they have a chance of winning, but for the U.S.'s sake, they damn well shouldn't get into the White House.

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Ron Paul knows the constitution better than the other two? Ron Paul's views on the constitution go against a hundred and fifty years of judicial precedents and ignores many of the amendments. He has introduced a bill into the house more than once that would allow the states to ignore the first and fourth amendments in many cases, and he would allow state governments to crush personal freedoms. He's as much of a liar as any of them.

Guybrush_3

He wants to limit the power of the government and focus the remainder of that power in the state governments so people actually have say about how they are governed and not people in California or Texas who decide to impose their views on everyone else. I really have no idea how you could think he is against personal liberty.

He wants to completely nueter the federal government to where it has vitually no power, and allow competing currencies. We tried that. It's called the articles of confederation, and it sucked balls. That's why we have the constitution and why the civil war happened.

They only ever had a mathematical chance on paper under the best of circumstances. It was never a realistic chance outside of polls and spreadsheets. Obama was always going to win regardless of how the Republicans ran their campaign based solely on the complete lack of an electable candidate to oppose him.

Obama would have to get caught in bed with underaged prostitutes while snorting cocaine between now and the election in order to lose. There isn't anything realistic that will happen between now and then that will prevent it.

And no, it wont even be close.

Also, in the name of full disclosure, I was ( the last time I voted ) a registered Republican.

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He wants to limit the power of the government and focus the remainder of that power in the state governments so people actually have say about how they are governed and not people in California or Texas who decide to impose their views on everyone else. I really have no idea how you could think he is against personal liberty.

DevilMightCry

He wants to completely nueter the federal government to where it has vitually no power, and allow competing currencies. We tried that. It's called the articles of confederation, and it sucked balls. That's why we have the constitution and why the civil war happened.

Nothing tin-foil hat about that. Ron Paul does want to severely de-power the federal, while granting more power to the states, and he does want to allow competing currencies. This is part of his platform.

I do not like what the Republican Party has become. It has moved to being very radical and partisan, I do not like it's main candidate Romney either, particularly his VP. I wish they would use John Huntsman as the main GOP base, he was my personal candidate. He probably could have won the election too if his party wasn't so extreame.

As a whole, the GOP does have a strong voter base, so I think they do have a shot. But most people do not want radical. I am personally an independent because I find both parties to be hypocrties and just being in a political party to begin with seems kinda....sheepish to me I guess. Especially since they are both evil.

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He wants to completely nueter the federal government to where it has vitually no power, and allow competing currencies. We tried that. It's called the articles of confederation, and it sucked balls. That's why we have the constitution and why the civil war happened.

DevilMightCry

Nothing tin-foil hat about that. Ron Paul does want to severely de-power the federal, while granting more power to the states, and he does want to allow competing currencies. This is part of his platform.

Probably not until the Tea baggers leave the country...

slowpokebro

terrible. You can't rhyme rights with right.

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="Guybrush_3"] Don't forget the tinfoil hat with your order of nuts.DevilMightCry

Nothing tin-foil hat about that. Ron Paul does want to severely de-power the federal, while granting more power to the states, and he does want to allow competing currencies. This is part of his platform.

That's funny, I could have sworn we were talking about Ron Paul, not mainstream Republicans.

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Nothing tin-foil hat about that. Ron Paul does want to severely de-power the federal, while granting more power to the states, and he does want to allow competing currencies. This is part of his platform.

worlock77

That's funny, I could have sworn we were talking about Ron Paul, not mainstream Republicans.

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[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"] Ron Paul is not the nominee, and Republicans never advocated that. You can make the case against Ron Paul on a lot of things, so don't associate everything he says with mainstream Republicans.DevilMightCry

That's funny, I could have sworn we were talking about Ron Paul, not mainstream Republicans.

Yeah, Paul's about as representitave of the Republican party as Kucinich is of the Democratic party.

With that vice president choice? No way. My only concern is that people (especially younger) will assume "Oh, Obama will win, I dont need to vote, this will be a landslide". And he'll lose.

With that vice president choice? No way. My only concern is that people (especially younger) will assume "Oh, Obama will win, I dont need to vote, this will be a landslide". And he'll lose.

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Do you really think I'm racist rofl? I'm a big fan of sports, and all of my favorite teams are filled with black people...

-Karmum-

Marge Schott was a big sports fan too.

I can't believe you guys actually think i'm racist :lol:

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Marge Schott was a big sports fan too.

kingkong0124

I can't believe you guys actually think i'm racist :lol:

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Marge Schott was a big sports fan too.

kingkong0124

I can't believe you guys actually think i'm racist :lol:

Did I say you were? No, I did not.

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="Guybrush_3"] Don't forget the tinfoil hat with your order of nuts.DevilMightCry

Nothing tin-foil hat about that. Ron Paul does want to severely de-power the federal, while granting more power to the states, and he does want to allow competing currencies. This is part of his platform.

I wasn't trashing actual republicans. I was trashing Ron Paul specifically. I associate what he says with paulbots.

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[QUOTE="-Karmum-"] :lol: Perfect.worlock77

I can't believe you guys actually think i'm racist :lol:

Did I say you were? No, I did not.

The Tea Party has single handedly destroyed anything credible that was remaining with the Republican Party.

http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2012/08/22/analysis-election-factors-points-romney-win-university-colorado-study-says That's the study. It is also worth pointing out it was done by left leaning professors. It does assume that Romney wins PA, and VA, which I don't think will happen. But even without PA, and VA, Romney will win.

http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2012/08/22/analysis-election-factors-points-romney-win-university-colorado-study-says That's the study. It is also worth pointing out it was done by left leaning professors. It does assume that Romney wins PA, and VA, which I don't think will happen. But even without PA, and VA, Romney will win.

DevilMightCry

http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2012/08/22/analysis-election-factors-points-romney-win-university-colorado-study-says

Linked, just to help discussion.

In 2012, What is striking about our state-level economic indicator forecast is the expectation that Obama will lose almost all of the states currently considered as swing states, including North Carolina, Virginia, New Hampshire, Colorado, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida, Bickers said.

I find that extremely unlikely. While the economy is an important factor, there are time that it's drowned out in this election cycle, so the predictors that UC is using my not apply as well as they say. I know that they have predicted every election for quite some time, but this is not a typical election.