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Yes it is. Some people need to learn about birth control because I don't think there will be enough resources to sustain that many people come a few more hundred, maybe thousand, more years.
No, I don't think the world is overpopulated. Have you ever driven across just the US? I'm not even talking about all of the other landmass in this world... just the US. There is so much open space it's not even funny. The issue isn't the number of people on the planet, it's where they're living. Cities are most definitely overpopulated. Continued industrialization just keeps making the problem worse. I know most people don't want to hear this, but if we were living simpler lives and not jamming ourselves together in big cities, nobody would be talking about overpopulation with less than 7 billion people on the planet. There is so much usable land that's untouched.
Anyone with at least a bit of knowledge in human geography will know that the world is in fact, not overpopulated. By no means.UCF_Knight
Exactly.
I agree with that - but the more we expand, the more land we destroy. This world used to be covered in trees, and now look at it. Only 6% of the world are rain forests now.No, I don't think the world is overpopulated. Have you ever driven across just the US? I'm not even talking about all of the other landmass in this world... just the US. There is so much open space it's not even funny. The issue isn't the number of people on the planet, it's where they're living. Cities are most definitely overpopulated. Continued industrialization just keeps making the problem worse. I know most people don't want to hear this, but if we were living simpler lives and not jamming ourselves together in big cities, nobody would be talking about overpopulation with less than 7 billion people on the planet. There is so much usable land that's untouched.
hartsickdiscipl
[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]I agree with that - but the more we expand, the more land we destroy. This world used to be covered in trees, and now look at it. Only 6% of the world are rain forests now.No, I don't think the world is overpopulated. Have you ever driven across just the US? I'm not even talking about all of the other landmass in this world... just the US. There is so much open space it's not even funny. The issue isn't the number of people on the planet, it's where they're living. Cities are most definitely overpopulated. Continued industrialization just keeps making the problem worse. I know most people don't want to hear this, but if we were living simpler lives and not jamming ourselves together in big cities, nobody would be talking about overpopulation with less than 7 billion people on the planet. There is so much usable land that's untouched.
optiow
All because of industrialization.
No, I don't think the world is overpopulated. Have you ever driven across just the US? I'm not even talking about all of the other landmass in this world... just the US. There is so much open space it's not even funny. The issue isn't the number of people on the planet, it's where they're living. Cities are most definitely overpopulated. Continued industrialization just keeps making the problem worse. I know most people don't want to hear this, but if we were living simpler lives and not jamming ourselves together in big cities, nobody would be talking about overpopulation with less than 7 billion people on the planet. There is so much usable land that's untouched.
hartsickdiscipl
Do you honestly think that when someone says the world is overpopulated they're talking in terms of space? We're talking natural resources, humans consume them, we're running out, and we keep growing in numbers at an exponensial rate.
[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]
No, I don't think the world is overpopulated. Have you ever driven across just the US? I'm not even talking about all of the other landmass in this world... just the US. There is so much open space it's not even funny. The issue isn't the number of people on the planet, it's where they're living. Cities are most definitely overpopulated. Continued industrialization just keeps making the problem worse. I know most people don't want to hear this, but if we were living simpler lives and not jamming ourselves together in big cities, nobody would be talking about overpopulation with less than 7 billion people on the planet. There is so much usable land that's untouched.
GenericUser12
Do you honestly think that when someone says the world is overpopulated they're talking in terms of space? We're talking natural resources, humans consume them, we're running out, and we keep growing in numbers at an exponensial rate.
The world has plenty of resources. Just not enough to support the way humans are now living.. hence my references to the evils of industrialization. If we lived simpler lives and used more of the land for agriculture, we'd have more than enough truly essential resources for twice the world's current population.
That really depends on what you mean by "overpopulation".
We have enough resources to feed and supply6.9 billion to a standard that will keep them alive and capable of learning enough to do simple jobs. We don't have enough to feed and supply those 6.9 billion to the standard that everyone of them will be capable of going for high-grade education and doing extensive bodybuilding, though.
Of course it is. The only reason our planet can support it's current population is because of the incredible disparity in wealth.
What about things like roads and buildings other than houses? What about food? Fields and factories ect. It would take up 10 times that space.[QUOTE="adamosmaki"]
I believe not. The problem is the way we handle our planet resources
Link ( overpopulation is a myth )
No way everyone could fit in Texas . . .
According to the U.N. Population Database, the world's population in 2010 will be6,908,688,000.The landmass of Texas is268,820 sq mi (7,494,271,488,000 sq ft).
So, divide7,494,271,488,000 sq ftby6,908,688,000 people, and you get1084.76 sq ft/person.That's approximately a 33' x 33' plot of land for every person on the planet, enough space for a town house.
Given an average four person family, every family would have a 66' x 66' plot of land, which would comfortably provide a single family home and yard -- and all of them fit on a landmass the size of Texas. Admittedly, it'd basically be one massive subdivision, but Texas is a tiny portion of the inhabitable Earth.
Such an arrangement would leavethe entire rest of the worldvacant. There's plenty of space for humanity.
brandontwb
Australia is 7,686,850 sq km and the world has 6,790,062,216 people. This would allow for 884 people per square kmh, which is smaller than most over 1million people cities like toronto or Lyon or Athens so if texas is small then Austalia would allow all the world population be fitted there have each person his/her garden, roads public building and still australia wouldnt fill ( some cities have 7-8000 people population per square mile if not more )
I believe not. The problem is the way we handle our planet resourceswow, thats a really cool and interesting fact :o thanks doodLink ( overpopulation is a myth )
No way everyone could fit in Texas . . .
According to the U.N. Population Database, the world's population in 2010 will be6,908,688,000.The landmass of Texas is268,820 sq mi (7,494,271,488,000 sq ft).
So, divide7,494,271,488,000 sq ftby6,908,688,000 people, and you get1084.76 sq ft/person.That's approximately a 33' x 33' plot of land for every person on the planet, enough space for a town house.
Given an average four person family, every family would have a 66' x 66' plot of land, which would comfortably provide a single family home and yard -- and all of them fit on a landmass the size of Texas. Admittedly, it'd basically be one massive subdivision, but Texas is a tiny portion of the inhabitable Earth.
Such an arrangement would leavethe entire rest of the worldvacant. There's plenty of space for humanity.adamosmaki
I always have to facepalm when I read this forum.
a large percentage of this earth lives below the poverty line without even basic things like education/health care and we have people coming in here saying there's no overpopulation just because there's alot of free land.
it's about resources and sustainability.
I always have to facepalm when I read this forum.
a large percentage of this earth lives below the poverty line without even basic things like education/health care and we have people coming in here saying there's no overpopulation just because there's alot of free land.
it's about resources and sustainability.
Deano
Hey i agree with you i said that the problem is the way we handle our planets resources. There is enough land and also there is enough food
Food is a lot like money: just because some people have none doesn't mean that there isn't enough of it--it's just spread unevenly.
Back to topExactly that. Thanks to continuing increases in crop yields, the world's farmers are harvesting hundreds of millions of tonsmore graineach year on tens of millions acresless landthan they did in the 1970s and '80s. For instance, according to USDA figures, the world was producing 1.9 million metric tons of grain from 579.1 hectares of land (a hectare is 2.47 acres) in 1976. In 2004, we got 3.1 million metric tons of grain from only 517.9 hectares of land. This is quite a jump.
This is not to say that we won't possibly need to dedicate more land to farming in the future. The point is, a rise in population is not always matched by a rise in the amount of land required to feed that population.
why not cities under the sea? like rapture Living in such a constrained setting would have adverse psychological effects on anyone living there, kinda like how Bioshock 2 touches upon. Main problem is the lack of sunlight. We simply aren't supposed to live in the ocean in any way for extended periods of time, so sky cities would be more preferable, though perhaps not as conventional. Plus sky cities are just cooler.[QUOTE="PcGamingRig"]
we need sky cities. :)
TheShadowLord07
There's no thinking or believing in an cold hard fact. It's something we need to get on top of before it becomes an even bigger issue.SeraphimGoddess
i dont think some/most/all americans(or anyone from any any country) would not support the idea of being limit to like to one or two children for the future of mankind. (though I do support the idea for a family having a limit of children)
why not cities under the sea? like raptureyeh but you would need a contant supply of oxygen tanks then, it would waste too much money :P[QUOTE="PcGamingRig"]
we need sky cities. :)
TheShadowLord07
[QUOTE="SeraphimGoddess"]There's no thinking or believing in an cold hard fact. It's something we need to get on top of before it becomes an even bigger issue.TheShadowLord07
i dont think some/most/all americans(or anyone from any any country) would not like the idea of being limit to like one or two children for future of mankind. (though I do support the idea for a family having a limit of children)
Then they need to realize that if population levels continue to rise, their quality of life will plummet. There's no need to have more than maybe 2 children tops, and I'm not just talking about America here. But saying that right now in America at least as a politician would have you called a socialist dictator communist scum or something similar. I can only really :( at that.[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"][QUOTE="SeraphimGoddess"]There's no thinking or believing in an cold hard fact. It's something we need to get on top of before it becomes an even bigger issue.SeraphimGoddess
i dont think some/most/all americans(or anyone from any any country) would not like the idea of being limit to like one or two children for future of mankind. (though I do support the idea for a family having a limit of children)
Then they need to realize that if population levels continue to rise, their quality of life will plummet. There's no need to have more than maybe 2 children tops, and I'm not just talking about America here. But saying that right now in America at least as a politician would have you called a socialist dictator communist scum or something similar. I can only really :( at that.I feel they wont though, atleast not till its too late. Right now most people not worry about that type of stuff.
their are other ways to to solve an over population but their expensive. but it's not just that. it's people who might not feel comfortable living in the sea,they, or even another planet.or we can do is cut forest which will affect both us and and nature itself to make more room.(I am not big on this subject but I'm assuming there will be major increase if population grows or it couls be even starting now).
It sounds like how the previous presidents use the red scare tactic and that how something like that is probably still around today. A shame, wouldn't mind taking some idea how other countries like china or russia do it. (don't feel right about a 100% capitalist society)
Absolutly, yes. Considering that carrying capacity includes sustainability and we've used up 1/3 of the world's unrenewable resources in the last 150 years.
some countries are.
As for my country, the USA...no, not really.
I can drive for hours without seeing a town of significant size, or developed land, in almost any direction. Lots of empty space in California, and I like it that way. I want to keep everyone out of California...just let a trickle of illegal immigrants in every year to keep costs down, keep others out lol.
[QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"]I remember a week ago I found an interesting census statistic showing that half the world's current popular is desperately poor, as in, make less than 2 dollars per day. As the population goes up, that percentage will probably go up as well. "Poor" people in America don't realize how good they've got it.Chickity_ChinaAnd what exacerbates the problem is that the desperately poor have the highest birth rates....
Thats due to a lot of reasons.. One of the top being in many of these countries thats the only way to get by.. The more people you birth, the more working hands you have for farming and other such things.
You think the world overpopulation is about the amount of land?TheFlushThe amount of land and natural resources needed to sustain life, yes. And what is it with everyone in this thread thinking that if the population were much lower, there'd be no poverty? There'd be fewer poor people, as it would decrease along with the rest of the population, but all the wealth in the world would not magically distribute itself equally.
Yes, it is overpopulated, and it will become a problem in the future.Dgalmun
Its already a problem now.. Our logistics is a mess and we have countless people around the world.. Dieing from starvation, malnutrition and easily curable/preventable diseases. Furthermore I disagree with the premise that the US is not overpopulated because you can drive for a long time with out seeing any one.. I think we should base it around the fact of how much of a effect we have on our environment.. Due to the fact that numerous systems are any trouble or other such thing, I would consider that a far greater key indicator.
[QUOTE="TheFlush"]You think the world overpopulation is about the amount of land?UCF_KnightThe amount of land and natural resources needed to sustain life, yes. And what is it with everyone in this thread thinking that if the population were much lower, there'd be no poverty? There'd be fewer poor people, as it would decrease along with the rest of the population, but all the wealth in the world would not magically distribute itself equally.
Yes and no.... The greatest indicator for personal wealth seems to have nothing to do with ability half time.. But luck, luck that you were born in a first world country with public education.. Instead of a poor nation with Africa with a brutal environment and minimal local resources.. I would argue with a smaller population that we wouldn't enccesarly have the resource problems we have for many now.
Yes and no.... The greatest indicator for personal wealth seems to have nothing to do with ability half time.. But luck, luck that you were born in a first world country with public education.. Instead of a poor nation with Africa with a brutal environment and minimal local resources.. I would argue with a smaller population that we wouldn't enccesarly have the resource problems we have for many now.sSubZerOoA smaller population would not give Africa the peace and political stability necessary to efficiently use their resources. This is a world peace issue, not an overpopulation one.
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Yes and no.... The greatest indicator for personal wealth seems to have nothing to do with ability half time.. But luck, luck that you were born in a first world country with public education.. Instead of a poor nation with Africa with a brutal environment and minimal local resources.. I would argue with a smaller population that we wouldn't enccesarly have the resource problems we have for many now.UCF_KnightA smaller population would not give Africa the peace and political stability necessary to efficiently use their resources. This is a world peace issue, not an overpopulation one.
That is just one of the problems plaguing Africa.. There are many many other problems as well, the majority being environmental related and the like. Africa has numerous problems with their agriculture, diseases and far more environmental problems. Should read the book "Guns, Germs and Steel" by Jared Diamond.
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