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#101 chaoscougar1
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Are you kidding?

GamerwillzPS

No Other stars =/= The Sun

Wow!

You probably should read about the universe more.

Oh the irony The Sun is the name of the star that our solar system orbits There are no other "Sun(s)" They are stars which go by different names You should probably read about the universe more
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#102 GamerwillzPS
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[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] No Other stars =/= The Sunchaoscougar1

Wow!

You probably should read about the universe more.

Oh the irony The Sun is the name of the star that our solar system orbits There are no other "Sun(s)" They are stars which go by different names You should probably read about the universe more

Oh my god. I can't believe that I'm reading this.

All stars are the same as our sun in the physical form. Obviously not the name of "sun" which is made up by the human race. Our sun is in the same form as other stars, but maybe different in sizes. If you travel many light years to reach a star out there, you'll feel the heat from it and it will provide light. Just like the sun. Duh...

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#103 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Wow!

You probably should read about the universe more.

GamerwillzPS

Oh the irony The Sun is the name of the star that our solar system orbits There are no other "Sun(s)" They are stars which go by different names You should probably read about the universe more

Oh my god. I can't believe that I'm reading this.

All stars are the same as our sun in the physical form. Obviously not the name of "sun" which is made up by the human race. Our sun is in the same form as other stars, but maybe different in sizes. If you travel many light years to reach a star out there, you'll feel the heat from it and it will provide light. Just like the sun. Duh...

He is just taking the piss.

In the same way that there are not other earths. other Planets yes.

There are obviously many stars, we call our star the sun.

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#104 chaoscougar1
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Wow!

You probably should read about the universe more.

GamerwillzPS

Oh the irony The Sun is the name of the star that our solar system orbits There are no other "Sun(s)" They are stars which go by different names You should probably read about the universe more

Oh my god. I can't believe that I'm reading this.

All stars are the same as our sun in the physical form. Obviously not the name of "sun" which is made up by the human race. Our sun is in the same form as other stars, but maybe different in sizes. If you travel many light years to reach a star out there, you'll feel the heat from it and it will provide light. Just like the sun. Duh...

Wow

Our sun is the same form as other stars? Since when?

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#105 GamerwillzPS
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[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] Oh the irony The Sun is the name of the star that our solar system orbits There are no other "Sun(s)" They are stars which go by different names You should probably read about the universe morechaoscougar1

Oh my god. I can't believe that I'm reading this.

All stars are the same as our sun in the physical form. Obviously not the name of "sun" which is made up by the human race. Our sun is in the same form as other stars, but maybe different in sizes. If you travel many light years to reach a star out there, you'll feel the heat from it and it will provide light. Just like the sun. Duh...

Wow

Our sun is the same form as other stars? Since when?

Ok, you're just trolling.

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#106 sune_Gem
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I thought our star was called Sol. Then we sort of just adapted to calling it Sun instead.

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#107 wis3boi
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I thought our star was called Sol. Then we sort of just adapted to calling it Sun instead.

sune_Gem

and the Moon is Luna and Earth is Terra. True story. I guess it's a way to confuse the alien invaders :P

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#108 sune_Gem
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[QUOTE="sune_Gem"]

I thought our star was called Sol. Then we sort of just adapted to calling it Sun instead.

wis3boi

and the Moon is Luna and Earth is Terra. True story. I guess it's a way to confuse the alien invaders :P

I thought Luna was a equestrian princess, as well as being a hero on DoTA 2. And Terra was a MMO. :o

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#109 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="sune_Gem"]

I thought our star was called Sol. Then we sort of just adapted to calling it Sun instead.

sune_Gem

and the Moon is Luna and Earth is Terra. True story. I guess it's a way to confuse the alien invaders :P

I thought Luna was a equestrian princess, as well as being a hero on DoTA 2. And Terra was a MMO. :o

foiled again!

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#110 nunovlopes
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I thought our star was called Sol. Then we sort of just adapted to calling it Sun instead.

sune_Gem

Sol is just Sun in a few languages.

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#111 notsoawesome
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The scale of the universe is incomprehensible and if our basis for intelligent life is our species, then yes.
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#112 chaoscougar1
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Oh my god. I can't believe that I'm reading this.

All stars are the same as our sun in the physical form. Obviously not the name of "sun" which is made up by the human race. Our sun is in the same form as other stars, but maybe different in sizes. If you travel many light years to reach a star out there, you'll feel the heat from it and it will provide light. Just like the sun. Duh...

GamerwillzPS

Wow

Our sun is the same form as other stars? Since when?

Ok, you're just trolling.

No You completely missed the point So I went with your idea
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#113 SirWander
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dunno

maybe

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#114 bootybin
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I think there is def life on other planets, the solar system is just so darn big. That and im a huge xfiles fanboy.
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#115 worlock77
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Wow!

You probably should read about the universe more.

GamerwillzPS

Oh the irony The Sun is the name of the star that our solar system orbits There are no other "Sun(s)" They are stars which go by different names You should probably read about the universe more

Oh my god. I can't believe that I'm reading this.

All stars are the same as our sun in the physical form. Obviously not the name of "sun" which is made up by the human race. Our sun is in the same form as other stars, but maybe different in sizes. If you travel many light years to reach a star out there, you'll feel the heat from it and it will provide light. Just like the sun. Duh...

Way to have an obvious point sail a mile over your head. Congrats dude.

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#116 worlock77
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I think there is def life on other planets, the solar system is just so darn big. That and im a huge xfiles fanboy.bootybin

It's extremely unlikely that there is life on any other planet in the Solar System.

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#117 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="bootybin"]I think there is def life on other planets, the solar system is just so darn big. That and im a huge xfiles fanboy.worlock77

It's extremely unlikely that there is life on any other planet in the Solar System.

I think there may be some on that ice moon, Hoth, I think its called.

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#118 _R34LiTY_
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Of course there is intelligent life elsewhere besides here on Earth.

In my opinion, it would be incredibly naive to postulate that we humans are the only forms of life in the vastness of the universe. However, just as with us humans, whether we and other intelligent life are a result of natural evolution or a product of directed panspermia is another discussion that is just as intriguing.

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#119 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="bootybin"]I think there is def life on other planets, the solar system is just so darn big. That and im a huge xfiles fanboy.tenaka2

It's extremely unlikely that there is life on any other planet in the Solar System.

I think there may be some on that ice moon, Hoth, I think its called.

Well played, sir. ;)
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#120 Morphic
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Its practically imposible for it not to be since there are so many planets and stars out there.

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#121 iHarlequin
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I thought our star was called Sol. Then we sort of just adapted to calling it Sun instead.

sune_Gem
It is called Sol in most Latin-derived languages. Similarly, we (Portuguese speakers, in my case), call Earth 'Terra' and Moon 'Lua'.
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#122 Venom_Raptor
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Yes, and anyone who says no is either stupid or stubborn to accept it. With the trillions of planets in the universe it's obvious there is other life out there.

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#123 sune_Gem
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[QUOTE="bootybin"]I think there is def life on other planets, the solar system is just so darn big. That and im a huge xfiles fanboy.worlock77

It's extremely unlikely that there is life on any other planet in the Solar System.

They do think that one of the moons in our Solar System may have an underwater ocean that could contain life similar to that of our deep water life here on Earth actually.

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#124 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="bootybin"]I think there is def life on other planets, the solar system is just so darn big. That and im a huge xfiles fanboy.sune_Gem

It's extremely unlikely that there is life on any other planet in the Solar System.

They do think that one of the moons in our Solar System may have an underwater ocean that could contain life similar to that of our deep water life here on Earth actually.

Two moons, Europa (Jupiter) and Enceladus (Saturn) both seem to have liquid water under their icy surfaces. And Titan(Saturn) has a thick atmosphere, liquid hydrocarbon lakes on its surface and is larger than Mercury, though less massive.

Picture from Titan's surface! (Huygens probe)

Titan's surface

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#125 sune_Gem
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[QUOTE="sune_Gem"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

It's extremely unlikely that there is life on any other planet in the Solar System.

Inconsistancy

They do think that one of the moons in our Solar System may have an underwater ocean that could contain life similar to that of our deep water life here on Earth actually.

Two moons, Europa (Jupiter) and Enceladus (Saturn) both seem to have liquid water under their icy surfaces. And Titan(Saturn) has a thick atmosphere, liquid hydrocarbon lakes on its surface and is larger than Mercury, though less massive.

Is it possible for our sea life to live on the surface of a planet or moon without having an atmosphere though? Like if we some how went to a planet with decent gravity, made a lake and put fish in it, would they survive?

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#126 The_Last_Ride
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There is always a chance, but we honestly don't know, and what we know now is a no. but i would like to think so that there is intelligent life
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#127 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

[QUOTE="sune_Gem"]

They do think that one of the moons in our Solar System may have an underwater ocean that could contain life similar to that of our deep water life here on Earth actually.

sune_Gem

Two moons, Europa (Jupiter) and Enceladus (Saturn) both seem to have liquid water under their icy surfaces. And Titan(Saturn) has a thick atmosphere, liquid hydrocarbon lakes on its surface and is larger than Mercury, though less massive.

Is it possible for our sea life to live on the surface of a planet or moon without having an atmosphere though? Like if we some how went to a planet with decent gravity, made a lake and put fish in it, would they survive?

Nope, the water would just boil w/o the pressure of an atmosphere to keep it liquid.
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#128 sune_Gem
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[QUOTE="sune_Gem"]

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] Two moons, Europa (Jupiter) and Enceladus (Saturn) both seem to have liquid water under their icy surfaces. And Titan(Saturn) has a thick atmosphere, liquid hydrocarbon lakes on its surface and is larger than Mercury, though less massive.

Inconsistancy

Is it possible for our sea life to live on the surface of a planet or moon without having an atmosphere though? Like if we some how went to a planet with decent gravity, made a lake and put fish in it, would they survive?

Nope, the water would just boil w/o the pressure of an atmosphere to keep it liquid.

So how is there water on these moons, or believed to be so? Does it have some form of atmosphere on them?

I didn't pay attention in science. :P

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#129 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="sune_Gem"]

Is it possible for our sea life to live on the surface of a planet or moon without having an atmosphere though? Like if we some how went to a planet with decent gravity, made a lake and put fish in it, would they survive?

sune_Gem

Nope, the water would just boil w/o the pressure of an atmosphere to keep it liquid.

So how is there water on these moons, or believed to be so? Does it have some form of atmosphere on them?

I didn't pay attention in science. :P

It's ice at the surface, that acts as(well, is) an atmosphere for the water under it.

The boiling point of a liquid is when the ambient pressure is = the vapor pressure of the liquid, but since space is a near vacuum the ambient pressure is always too low for water to not boil (assuming it's hot enough to be a liquid).

Sort of like CO2, it doesn't have a liquid state on Earth (at normal atmospheric pressure), it's either a solid, or a gas, pressure's too low to make it a liquid.

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#130 MercenaryMafia
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Yep, I think so.
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#131 sune_Gem
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Well, the tally sure is in favour of yes. I'm still uncertain myself. The odds seem likely, but for what ever reason I can't bring myself to think there's another planet that had the exact same evolutionary experience as Earth.

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#132 CptJSparrow
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There's not a whole lot of intelligent life here.
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#133 wis3boi
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Well, the tally sure is in favour of yes. I'm still uncertain myself. The odds seem likely, but for what ever reason I can't bring myself to think there's another planet that had the exact same evolutionary experience as Earth.

sune_Gem

if there was a planet with the same atmosphere and the same gravity and temperature, life that formed would probably at least develop similar features

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#134 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="bootybin"]I think there is def life on other planets, the solar system is just so darn big. That and im a huge xfiles fanboy.sune_Gem

It's extremely unlikely that there is life on any other planet in the Solar System.

They do think that one of the moons in our Solar System may have an underwater ocean that could contain life similar to that of our deep water life here on Earth actually.

Europa (a satellite of Jupiter) is thought to contain liquid water under its icy surface, but the idea of it supporting life is nothing more than speculation with no evidence for it at this point (and liquid water hasn't even been positively confirmed yet).

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#135 CycleOfViolence
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Most likely.

Though they probably took one look at us and said "No thanks" :P

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#136 ShadowsDemon
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Yes, and anyone who says no is either stupid or stubborn to accept it. With the trillions of planets in the universe it's obvious there is other life out there.

Venom_Raptor
The same applies to belief in God, though...and saying that about non-theists won't exactly go well. :P
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#137 MannyDelgado
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[QUOTE="Venom_Raptor"]

Yes, and anyone who says no is either stupid or stubborn to accept it. With the trillions of planets in the universe it's obvious there is other life out there.

ShadowsDemon
The same applies to belief in God, though...and saying that about non-theists won't exactly go well. :P

yeah except it doesn't, at all
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#138 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="Venom_Raptor"]

Yes, and anyone who says no is either stupid or stubborn to accept it. With the trillions of planets in the universe it's obvious there is other life out there.

MannyDelgado
The same applies to belief in God, though...and saying that about non-theists won't exactly go well. :P

yeah except it doesn't, at all

If you want to claim that there is outside life and that anyone who disagrees is "either stupid or stubborn to accept it", then the same applies to deities. There's no direct evidence for life on other planets, just as there is no direct evidence for the existence of any deities. It's just a conclusion that one draws from observing the universe. If I'm saying you have to believe in one or the other, but from what it says the same principle applies...
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#139 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] The same applies to belief in God, though...and saying that about non-theists won't exactly go well. :PShadowsDemon
yeah except it doesn't, at all

If you want to claim that there is outside life and that anyone who disagrees is "either stupid or stubborn to accept it", then the same applies to deities. There's no direct evidence for life on other planets, just as there is no direct evidence for the existence of any deities. It's just a conclusion that one draws from observing the universe. If I'm saying you have to believe in one or the other, but from what it says the same principle applies...

Hardly, but whatever floats that boat

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#140 bnarmz
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IDK, Life as we know it may only exist here. I can't say I believe there's other life out there until life is shown that it actually exist out there. I'm not going to let movies and/or mere speculations convince me.
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#141 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]
The same applies to belief in God, though...and saying that about non-theists won't exactly go well. :PShadowsDemon
yeah except it doesn't, at all


If you want to claim that there is outside life and that anyone who disagrees is "either stupid or stubborn to accept it", then the same applies to deities. There's no direct evidence for life on other planets, just as there is no direct evidence for the existence of any deities. It's just a conclusion that one draws from observing the universe. If I'm saying you have to believe in one or the other, but from what it says the same principle applies...


We have observed life, intelligent life even; so we know for a fact that life 'does' exist. With several hundred billion stars, for each of the several hundred billion galaxies, it would be absurd to think that life could have only happened once.

Find a planet of ~the same composition and location as Earth, with an Oxygen rich atmosphere, then we've almost certainly found life. And that's just life as we know it, standard Earth-like conditions. Maybe, if we'd send more probes, we could find out if any of our Moons have life; Europa, Enceladus and Titan being the most likely candidates.

We've never observed a God-like entity. What are the conditions we could expect a God-like entity to exist? (besides in the imaginations of an intelligent species)

1 example of life, millions of examples of speciation
0 examples of God

To say with absolute confidence, that there 'is' life, may be a bit wrong, but it would be 'extremely' odd if there wasn't any other life in the universe. But to say, a belief in God is just as likely as believing there's more life in the universe, is silly.

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#142 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="MannyDelgado"]yeah except it doesn't, at allwis3boi

If you want to claim that there is outside life and that anyone who disagrees is "either stupid or stubborn to accept it", then the same applies to deities. There's no direct evidence for life on other planets, just as there is no direct evidence for the existence of any deities. It's just a conclusion that one draws from observing the universe. If I'm saying you have to believe in one or the other, but from what it says the same principle applies...

Hardly, but whatever floats that boat

I'm not saying you have to belief in one or the other or both, I'm just saying that it's somewhat of a paralleled idea. I'd love for there to be aliens. Truly, I would, but I don't think that it's that likely.
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#143 sune_Gem
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Just asking, if some insane scientific discovery was made that pretty much clarified that no life existed other than on Earth within our galaxy. What would your thoughts on that be?

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#144 Miroku32
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I pretty much doubt Earth is the only planet with life on the universe.
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#145 Rich3232
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probably.

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#146 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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It's statistically improbable that there wouldn't be.
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#147 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] If you want to claim that there is outside life and that anyone who disagrees is "either stupid or stubborn to accept it", then the same applies to deities. There's no direct evidence for life on other planets, just as there is no direct evidence for the existence of any deities. It's just a conclusion that one draws from observing the universe. If I'm saying you have to believe in one or the other, but from what it says the same principle applies...ShadowsDemon

Hardly, but whatever floats that boat

I'm not saying you have to belief in one or the other or both, I'm just saying that it's somewhat of a paralleled idea. I'd love for there to be aliens. Truly, I would, but I don't think that it's that likely.

I know, but we and our planet are proof that life can sprout up, and the cosmos is teeming with the organic compounds for life. Then you have a few hundred billion galaxies each with a few hundred billion stars, and each of those with planets...even if it was a one in a billion chance, with the number of planets out there, a billion would have life...obviously they'd be too spread out for them to come into contact. I think stuff like bacteria and whatnot are probably very common, and anything more is a lot more rare.

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#148 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

Hardly, but whatever floats that boat

wis3boi

I'm not saying you have to belief in one or the other or both, I'm just saying that it's somewhat of a paralleled idea. I'd love for there to be aliens. Truly, I would, but I don't think that it's that likely.

I know, but we and our planet are proof that life can sprout up, and the cosmos is teeming with the organic compounds for life. Then you have a few hundred billion galaxies each with a few hundred billion stars, and each of those with planets...even if it was a one in a billion chance, with the number of planets out there, a billion would have life...obviously they'd be too spread out for them to come into contact. I think stuff like bacteria and whatnot are probably very common, and anything more is a lot more rare.

Indeed, but the chances of hydrogen forming by itself is extremely small. Not to say that it can't be done, but it's still a small chance of it actually forming to the same chemical compound as the one we ourselves have. In short: the universe is unpredictable. :P
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#149 bjvill
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There are moments when I doubt there is anything less intelligent than a human being...
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#150 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] I'm not saying you have to belief in one or the other or both, I'm just saying that it's somewhat of a paralleled idea. I'd love for there to be aliens. Truly, I would, but I don't think that it's that likely.ShadowsDemon

I know, but we and our planet are proof that life can sprout up, and the cosmos is teeming with the organic compounds for life. Then you have a few hundred billion galaxies each with a few hundred billion stars, and each of those with planets...even if it was a one in a billion chance, with the number of planets out there, a billion would have life...obviously they'd be too spread out for them to come into contact. I think stuff like bacteria and whatnot are probably very common, and anything more is a lot more rare.

Indeed, but the chances of hydrogen forming by itself is extremely small. Not to say that it can't be done, but it's still a small chance of it actually forming to the same chemical compound as the one we ourselves have. In short: the universe is unpredictable. :P

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