Do you think there's some truth about what Adolf H. believed?

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#1 LegitGamer3212
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Hitler believed that if the world was just one race it would be a better place. There's no doubt that he's a horrible person, he's responsible for a war and the murders of millions of people. Some good things he has done was bring a country devasted from WW1 back on it's foot and made it a super power by WW2. Do you think if America was one race it would be a better place? I know people are people but I mean one race as in like 1 skin color or 1 ethnicity. There are hundreds of thousands of hate crimes in America annually, people experience prejudice and racism, there are racial disparities of people in prison and in poverty. So if America was all white or all asian or all black do you think it would be a better place to live in? There would be a lot less hate crimes, a lot less of the "i'm suing him for racism" type of thing, and less hatred, what you think?

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#2 zakkro
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The more genetic diversity, the better. So no.
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#3 Wolls
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The more genetic diversity, the better. So no. zakkro
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#4 spazzx625
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Absolutely not. If we weren't fighting over the color of our skin it would be for something else, i.e. beliefs.
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#5 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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I think people will always find some perceived difference in each other. Eliminate race and people will separate based on some other issue.

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#6 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="spazzx625"]Absolutely not. If we weren't fighting over the color of our skin it would be for something else, i.e. beliefs.

Then we kill those with different beliefs till there is only one person left :P
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#7 worlock77
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No. Racism is just another form of tribalism and tribalism will always exist. Even if two groups of people are the same color and ethnicity the groups will still find differences to hate each other over.

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#8 zakkro
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="spazzx625"]Absolutely not. If we weren't fighting over the color of our skin it would be for something else, i.e. beliefs.

Then we kill those with different beliefs till there is only one person left :P

After that, it will be blue-eyed people vs brown-eyed people. :o
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#9 Pirate700
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It's certainly a possibility but that's not the world we live in.

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#10 madsnakehhh
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No.

There would be probably no racism (probably) but violence and discrimination would always be present, skin, color, religion, etc, not to mention, it would be way to boring if everyone was the same.

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#11 Pirate700
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Absolutely not. If we weren't fighting over the color of our skin it would be for something else, i.e. beliefs.spazzx625
Fighting over beliefs already exists.

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#12 deleterguy
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Yes.
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#13 spazzx625
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[QUOTE="spazzx625"]Absolutely not. If we weren't fighting over the color of our skin it would be for something else, i.e. beliefs.Pirate700

Fighting over beliefs already exists.

Exactly.
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#14 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="zakkro"][QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="spazzx625"]Absolutely not. If we weren't fighting over the color of our skin it would be for something else, i.e. beliefs.

Then we kill those with different beliefs till there is only one person left :P

After that, it will be blue-eyed people vs brown-eyed people. :o

If everyone is dead apart from one guy then there won't be anything after that, silly :P
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#15 osan0
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hitler made germany powerful by turning it into a war machine....thats not something to be proud of. and no. were human. if its not colour or race or origin then itll be something else we fight over. pretty land....shiny things, the shape of someones face, their size, eye colour, wealth, sexual orientation, political standpoint, someones shoes. you name it..we will fight over it. crimes and wars and such like dont happen because there are different types of people....wars and such like happen because there are enough *BEEP*ers in the world to make it happen. the current excuses we have are just that...excuses. humans are good at coming up with those.
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="zakkro"][QUOTE="toast_burner"] Then we kill those with different beliefs till there is only one person left :P

After that, it will be blue-eyed people vs brown-eyed people. :o

If everyone is dead apart from one guy then there won't be anything after that, silly :P

What if he has a brown eye and a blue eye, though?
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#17 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="spazzx625"]Absolutely not. If we weren't fighting over the color of our skin it would be for something else, i.e. beliefs.spazzx625

Fighting over beliefs already exists.

Exactly.

The question though was would one race make the world "a better place". If it would alleviate most if not all racism, it could be argued that it would. I'm in no way defending the beliefs but to the TC's question, it could be possible.

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#18 deactivated-59913425220eb
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No way, that obviously wouldn't solve the problem. Who knows what might come out of a country promoting only one race. But wait.. we do know the outcome, its what Hitler did. What Hitler did was really the bowels of evil, he justified what was going on and what he and the Nazis were doing to people by saying this was benefiting humanity. If your justifying something then your doing it the wrong way. The outcome doesn't matter (like a better world or a more peaceful civilization) if you are trying to get to that end by selfish and/or evil means like Hitler did.
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#19 spazzx625
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[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Fighting over beliefs already exists.

Pirate700

Exactly.

The question though was would one race make the world "a better place". If it would alleviate most if not all racism, it could be argued that it would. I'm in no way defending the beliefs but to the TC's question, it could be possible.

Eliminating racism wouldn't solve anything if there are other negative -isms out there. There are still conflicts between people of the same race, that's my point.
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#20 LoG-Sacrament
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he may have had an epiphany at some point like "my hair is kinda brown", but i feel comfortable in saying he was wrong in general.
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#21 worlock77
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="zakkro"] After that, it will be blue-eyed people vs brown-eyed people. :ozakkro
If everyone is dead apart from one guy then there won't be anything after that, silly :P

What if he has a brown eye and a blue eye, though?

"Heterochromia is a genetic abberation and must be cleansed from humanity!"

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#22 Buttons1990
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No, Hitler's beliefs were simply racism at its worse... He believed one race was superior and that they should rein supreme on the planet... That is all... It had nothing to do with removing conflit, or making the world better... It had everything to do with making Germany the supreme super power over the planet and made up only of a race of superior beings.

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#23 Drakes_Fortune
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No, but we would be better without religion.
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#24 worlock77
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No, but we would be better without religion.Drakes_Fortune

I fail to see how so.

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Hitler did turn Germany into a superpower in less than 5 years, and that's the only credit I give him.
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#26 Drakes_Fortune
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[QUOTE="Drakes_Fortune"]No, but we would be better without religion.worlock77

I fail to see how so.

There wouldnt be so many wars. There has been more wars in name of religion than anything else. Just look at Middle East nowadays.
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#27 Crimsader
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The only good thing Hitler did was to forbid smoking on public places... and establishing Volkswagen.
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#28 Shrimp_Scampi
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No

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#29 DeepSigh
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[QUOTE="Drakes_Fortune"]No, but we would be better without religion.worlock77

I fail to see how so.

There wouldn't be an incredibly annoying Christian man in my town centre singing at the top of his lungs about how great Jebus is and trying to hand me leaflets that I don't currently, nor will I ever want.

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#30 DivergeUnify
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Drakes_Fortune"]No, but we would be better without religion.Drakes_Fortune

I fail to see how so.

There wouldnt be so many wars. There has been more wars in name of religion than anything else. Just look at Middle East nowadays.

Wars are done in the name of religion as a justification, not for religious reasons. They're all political, geographical, or there is something to gain
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Drakes_Fortune"]No, but we would be better without religion.Drakes_Fortune

I fail to see how so.

There wouldnt be so many wars. There has been more wars in name of religion than anything else. Just look at Middle East nowadays.

And if were not religion it would be something else. It'd be over ethnicity, or it would be nationalism, or it would over differences between cultures, etc. People will always find differences to fight each other over.

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#32 spazzx625
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Drakes_Fortune"]No, but we would be better without religion.Drakes_Fortune

I fail to see how so.

There wouldnt be so many wars. There has been more wars in name of religion than anything else. Just look at Middle East nowadays.

Do you have a statistic for that? I believe more wars are fought over land/resources than anything else, historically.
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#33 worlock77
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[QUOTE="Drakes_Fortune"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

I fail to see how so.

spazzx625

There wouldnt be so many wars. There has been more wars in name of religion than anything else. Just look at Middle East nowadays.

Do you have a statistic for that? I believe more wars are fought over land/resources than anything else, historically.

Yep. Hell, people use to fight wars over salt.

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Hitler believed that if the world was just one race it would be a better place. There's no doubt that he's a horrible person, he's responsible for a war and the murders of millions of people. Some good things he has done was bring a country devasted from WW1 back on it's foot and made it a super power by WW2. Do you think if America was one race it would be a better place? I know people are people but I mean one race as in like 1 skin color or 1 ethnicity. There are hundreds of thousands of hate crimes in America annually, people experience prejudice and racism, there are racial disparities of people in prison and in poverty. So if America was all white or all asian or all black do you think it would be a better place to live in? There would be a lot less hate crimes, a lot less of the "i'm suing him for racism" type of thing, and less hatred, what you think?

LegitGamer3212

If people weren't so shallow and could see beyond the outward differences America would be a better place. (Ignore the First Sentence)

If people could allow others to be themselves (Faith & Religion, Race, etc...) then America would be a better place.

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Wasn't it more about creating a supreme race than creating 1 race? Like by mingling superior genes and stuff like that?
They've been doing that in the UK some time after WW2, breeding people with high IQ's and all that. Weird stuff.

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#37 spazzx625
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[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

Hitler believed that if the world was just one race it would be a better place. There's no doubt that he's a horrible person, he's responsible for a war and the murders of millions of people. Some good things he has done was bring a country devasted from WW1 back on it's foot and made it a super power by WW2. Do you think if America was one race it would be a better place? I know people are people but I mean one race as in like 1 skin color or 1 ethnicity. There are hundreds of thousands of hate crimes in America annually, people experience prejudice and racism, there are racial disparities of people in prison and in poverty. So if America was all white or all asian or all black do you think it would be a better place to live in? There would be a lot less hate crimes, a lot less of the "i'm suing him for racism" type of thing, and less hatred, what you think?

lowkey254

If people weren't so shallow and could see beyond the outward differences America would be a better place.

That's not an ideal only to be held to America...
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No. Even if everyone was white, black, or asian, we'd discriminate over something stupid like whether you're right or left handed, tall or short, etc.
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[QUOTE="lowkey254"]

[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

Hitler believed that if the world was just one race it would be a better place. There's no doubt that he's a horrible person, he's responsible for a war and the murders of millions of people. Some good things he has done was bring a country devasted from WW1 back on it's foot and made it a super power by WW2. Do you think if America was one race it would be a better place? I know people are people but I mean one race as in like 1 skin color or 1 ethnicity. There are hundreds of thousands of hate crimes in America annually, people experience prejudice and racism, there are racial disparities of people in prison and in poverty. So if America was all white or all asian or all black do you think it would be a better place to live in? There would be a lot less hate crimes, a lot less of the "i'm suing him for racism" type of thing, and less hatred, what you think?

spazzx625

If people weren't so shallow and could see beyond the outward differences America would be a better place.

That's not an ideal only to be held to America...

Its hard not to imagine all your posts to a Jack Nicholson voice
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Its hard not to imagine all your posts to a Jack Nicholson voiceDivergeUnify
Good. I want you to picture Jack saying everything I type and looking exactly how he looks in my sig.
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]Its hard not to imagine all your posts to a Jack Nicholson voicespazzx625
Good. I want you to picture Jack saying everything I type and looking exactly how he looks in my sig.

It's working man, it's working.
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#42 lowkey254
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[QUOTE="lowkey254"]

[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

Hitler believed that if the world was just one race it would be a better place. There's no doubt that he's a horrible person, he's responsible for a war and the murders of millions of people. Some good things he has done was bring a country devasted from WW1 back on it's foot and made it a super power by WW2. Do you think if America was one race it would be a better place? I know people are people but I mean one race as in like 1 skin color or 1 ethnicity. There are hundreds of thousands of hate crimes in America annually, people experience prejudice and racism, there are racial disparities of people in prison and in poverty. So if America was all white or all asian or all black do you think it would be a better place to live in? There would be a lot less hate crimes, a lot less of the "i'm suing him for racism" type of thing, and less hatred, what you think?

spazzx625

If people weren't so shallow and could see beyond the outward differences America would be a better place.

That's not an ideal only to be held to America...

Agreed, but he mentioned America specifically.

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#43 spazzx625
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Agreed, but he mentioned America specifically.

lowkey254
Ah, true. My scope broadened after I read the OP.
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#44 KungfuKitten
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[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="lowkey254"] If people weren't so shallow and could see beyond the outward differences America would be a better place.

lowkey254

That's not an ideal only to be held to America...

Agreed, but he mentioned America specifically.

Now you're doing it too!
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#45 Funconsole
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Not at all. More races create more genetic diversity and a better population. If you believe in Hitler's "belief" than you're no better than him/the nazis and you're a disgrace to every soldier and all the jewish people that died during the war
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#46 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Hitler's judgement was proved to be incorrect. Look at this horrible judgement call by him. Even I could have seen that coming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBQCO8v1v3Q

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#47 67gt500
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If you think about it -- and I mean really think about it for a protracted period of time it doesn't seem plausible that anti-semitism could have been around for as long as it has (and it's still very much alive and well in the world today) unless there was some basis for it -- some truth behind it all... If you look all the way back to Antiquity anti-semitic sentiment has been prevalent in some form or another... but regardless -- genocide by means of systematic mass murder ( or any other means for that matter) is not an ethical or morally sound way of expressing contempt...
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Hell no. No Brazilian women is a place I don't want to live.
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Hell no. No Brazilian women is a place I don't want to live.metallica_fan42
Truth is: Brazilian women are another breed of hotness
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#50 weezyfb
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No. if we were all one skin color we would fight over other things, ie religion, beliefs, borders, resources.