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xD i was confused. I've had to do math every year since kindergarten.Lost-Memory
It's interesting to me how varied graduation requirements are depending on location. I'm not sure if all the high schools in my district were like this, but my high school required 2 years of math, 2 years of science, and then another year of either subject. Pretty much everyone I knew took 4 years of both lol.
I think they should... I mean I graduated highschool and didn't get past algebra 2. Thank god I study music and don't have to take trig or pre-calc. Its really funny because this one professor asked me if I even went to highschool- because I was incapable of doing any sort of trig/calc math. Its scary knowing my math career is over.
No people already have a hard time with math as it is. Forcing them to have each year wouldn't be fair. When I was in high school I took it each year, but that's because I didn't want to "forget" anything because I sucked at math. Anything beyond algebra II shouldn't be required.
No. It should be the kid's initiative to learn. If he knows he wants to do something where math is completely irrelevant, they shouldn't make him take much more than the basic stuff.
My school only required 3 years of math and I think that's a pretty fair amount. I took 6 years of math, but I think it should be up to the individual.
Don't they already do that? I remember having a math class every year in high school. In fact, I actually ended up taking 5 high school math courses as I was in the 8th grade advanced algebra class which was counted as a high school credit. Luckily for me though, math is pretty easy. Never got less than an A in all my math courses from high school through college.
ExoticAnimal
Same here, except I haven't graduated yet. Myhigh schoolschool requires four years of all core classes.
Yes. A lot of people these days lack the basic skills of maths and English. They should all be a compulsory module in every year of school.
You might not need to go in to all kinds of trigonometry and algebra, but the basics like fractions, decimals, etc..
Most peoples math skills are very very bad, The average american is in about 10,000 dollars of credit card debt, and has bad habits as far as buying unnesasary things, and this can all be traced back to a lack of mathematical ability.
Most kids simply lack the disiplin and are too lazy to really excell at math, and that is a problem, but that doesn't mean the skills aren't nessasary, and simply by working at math, u are "working out" portions of the brain dealing with mathematic ability, and that does help in the long run.
CaveJohnson1
How does people having credit card debt correlate to people being bad at math? Just because you say it can be traced back to it means absolutely nothing. I could say spending has nothing to do with math and everything to do with lifestyle. Prove me wrong.
I'd much rather kids be able to spell words like discipline, and necessary, honestly. Spelling is much more worthwhile than solving a mathematical equation in everyday life.
[QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]
Most peoples math skills are very very bad, The average american is in about 10,000 dollars of credit card debt, and has bad habits as far as buying unnesasary things, and this can all be traced back to a lack of mathematical ability.
Most kids simply lack the disiplin and are too lazy to really excell at math, and that is a problem, but that doesn't mean the skills aren't nessasary, and simply by working at math, u are "working out" portions of the brain dealing with mathematic ability, and that does help in the long run.
airshocker
How does people having credit card debt correlate to people being bad at math? Just because you say it can be traced back to it means absolutely nothing. I could say spending has nothing to do with math and everything to do with lifestyle. Prove me wrong.
I'd much rather kids be able to spell words like discipline, and necessary, honestly. Spelling is much more worthwhile than solving a mathematical equation in everyday life.
they both use math skills, durrr, I don't feel like looking up studies right now.Also, texting, and microsoft word both have spell check programs, why do u need to know how to spell well?
they both use math skills, durrr, I don't feel like looking up studies right now.
Also, texting, and microsoft word both have spell check programs, why do u need to know how to spell well?
CaveJohnson1
Basic math skills which everyone learns. Algebra doesn't cross anybodys mind when they think about credit cards. I'll take that as an indication that you're wrong, then.
We use writing and language to communicate to each other. It's immensely important that people know how to spell. Not to mention it's a mark of intelligence.
Uh....credit card debt has nothing to do with math skills.Most peoples math skills are very very bad, The average american is in about 10,000 dollars of credit card debt, and has bad habits as far as buying unnesasary things, and this can all be traced back to a lack of mathematical ability.
Most kids simply lack the disiplin and are too lazy to really excell at math, and that is a problem, but that doesn't mean the skills aren't nessasary, and simply by working at math, u are "working out" portions of the brain dealing with mathematic ability, and that does help in the long run.
CaveJohnson1
Uh....credit card debt has nothing to do with math skills.[QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]
Most peoples math skills are very very bad, The average american is in about 10,000 dollars of credit card debt, and has bad habits as far as buying unnesasary things, and this can all be traced back to a lack of mathematical ability.
Most kids simply lack the disiplin and are too lazy to really excell at math, and that is a problem, but that doesn't mean the skills aren't nessasary, and simply by working at math, u are "working out" portions of the brain dealing with mathematic ability, and that does help in the long run.
LJS9502_basic
While I agree that it probably doesn't have anything to do with math skills the vast majority of the time, I see no reason why it can't ever have anything to do with math skills. A person with abysmally poor math skills might lack the ability to plan their budget in a way that would allow them to consistently pay off credit card bills.
No, I don't believe so, I mean, you need the basics, but thats it really. Past year 7 it's been pretty much useless.
They already do that it my country. Most people here are great at it (A*s are standard for about 1/3 of my class, and we're the loud, undisciplined type) so it hardly bothers us that we HAVE to do it.
Now, additional mathematics is a killer. I'm pretty much the only person here who doesn't need excessive studying and practice to stay good at it.
Math is the most important subject. It needs to be taught and brought to a higher level in schools. It's is getting more and more complex, and so is what we do with it. You're going to have a hard time learning it at Uni if they keep raising the bar (which is plausible) and schools keep to their low level.
I'll continue to say it, math should not be made mandatory after a certain level. Advanced math is useless unless you want to pursue a career that makes it a requirement. Students who have have no interest in math or just aren't good at it aren't going to have an interest in careers that are math intensive, so what is the point of forcing it on them? They would be better off to pick electives that interest them rather then a mandatory math class that is going to bore the hell out of them.
Math is very important, but only to a basic extent. Also just because you're good at math doesn't make you smart, it just makes you smart at math.
Math might be getting more complex but it doesn't mean the entire population of America should have that complexity forced onto them. Also it's not the most important subject, what is important is totally subjective to the student. Yes, math is important to a basic level (very important but so is learning how to read) but after that basic level it becomes useless unless you want to pursue a career that requires complex math.Math is the most important subject. It needs to be taught and brought to a higher level in schools. It's is getting more and more complex, and so is what we do with it. You're going to have a hard time learning it at Uni if they keep raising the bar (which is plausible) and schools keep to their low level.
LieutenantFeist
[QUOTE="RK-Mara"]Wait, what? You don't need to take math every year? In Finnish high schools, you have to take math every term. Some terms more than one course.rawsavon
Quick (honest) question:
Is everyone included in that list...ALL students/kids that age must do that???
Or are some students on different tracks at that age (ages 15-18 ) and not taking those cIasses?
I think the problem with schools doesn't have anything to do with this.. But the fact of our typical "standardized test" based system.. Simply put school isn't really fun to go to because most often they consist of a class with very little student imput then ending with a boring stressful standardized test.. Math for instance needs to go on routes of real life fun problems and projects that are more interesting than doing a endless list of boring problems.. Like for instance doing a project on starting your own business hypothetically in which you do compound interest problems and what not.. I have to say that I can't think of a single person for instance that "enjoyed" the math courses they took in Highschool. More often than not they consist of things like government/political science, philosophy even science at times.. These are course that are more hands on that consist of more than just dry lectures of repititon pounding in your head.. Or English in which you had some room for creativity in writing or actual debate.sSubZerOoWhere are most people in real life solving real world 'fun' problems? ...they aren't. I agree that math and money needs to be a required course (learn how to budget, deal with loans, etc). But I don't think there needs to be a change to existing classes. (High) School is not for everyone. If kids in HS don't value education, then that is their problem.
[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="RK-Mara"]Wait, what? You don't need to take math every year? In Finnish high schools, you have to take math every term. Some terms more than one course.RK-Mara
Quick (honest) question:
Is everyone included in that list...ALL students/kids that age must do that???
Or are some students on different tracks at that age (ages 15-18 ) and not taking those cIasses?
I think the problem with schools doesn't have anything to do with this.. But the fact of our typical "standardized test" based system.. Simply put school isn't really fun to go to because most often they consist of a class with very little student imput then ending with a boring stressful standardized test.. Math for instance needs to go on routes of real life fun problems and projects that are more interesting than doing a endless list of boring problems.. Like for instance doing a project on starting your own business hypothetically in which you do compound interest problems and what not.. I have to say that I can't think of a single person for instance that "enjoyed" the math courses they took in Highschool. More often than not they consist of things like government/political science, philosophy even science at times.. These are course that are more hands on that consist of more than just dry lectures of repititon pounding in your head.. Or English in which you had some room for creativity in writing or actual debate.sSubZerOoI agree. Real life scenarios need to be implemented more in all school subjects.
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