Do you think usa would be better or worse if no white people came?

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#51 topgunmv
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If Europeans never showed up in north america, the native population would still be living in tee-pee's and scalping each other.

redstorm72

You're right, all the wars Europe fought up through WWI and II were much more civil. Better technology =\= better civilization, it just means better technology.

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#52 redstorm72
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[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

If Europeans never showed up in north america, the native population would still be living in tee-pee's and scalping each other.

topgunmv

You're right, all the wars Europe fought up through WWI and II were much more civil. Better technology =\= better civilization, it just means better technology.

That was more a reference to the fact they would not have changed or advance in any way if Europeans had never arrived, not the fact that they fought each other. If better technology =/= better civilization, then what does? More advanced technology brings about more food, longer lives, higher intelligence, better transportation, a better understanding of the world, etc. In terms of happiness or spiritual enlightenments, I don't know. However, I would be much happier to live longer and in more comfort and reach a better understanding of myself if I actually understood the world around me. Technology is just an indicator of how far a society has progressed in general, like art/culture and understanding of the world.

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#53 auron_16
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it wouldn't be the USA.
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#54 inyourface_12
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horrible, all of that pent up sexual angst would make white people angry!

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#55 slipknot0129
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What..? There wouldn't be a US.Dark__Link
Thats like saying what would the universe be like without earth. They wouldnt call it a universe probably.

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#56 xscrapzx
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As a white male I must say I'm ashamed at what happened here in America, and speaking out of what I know about Indian tribes, they got shafted big time. I look at Australia and see them living out their indigenous lives in tranquility and I look over here and think about what happened.

Technically speaking, if we had gotten beaten by the native Americans, there would have been no USA to speak of.

Also, the whole bit about the blood money that Indians receive after they turn 18 is a step in the right direction but it's not enough.

My thoughts on this topic are mixed, but I certainly won't deny that what we did ruined their culture and society in profound and unimaginable ways.

Man truly is the most violent and terrible race.

starfox15

You know I don't want to sound like a horrible person, but I'm really not ashamed of what happened in the past. Its the history of this country, doesn't mean I agree with it by any means, but people didn't know any better back then. Human rights where all but non-existent back then. The bottom line is in the state of nature, humans are no different then any other species on this planet, why people think we are somehow special is beyond me.

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#57 nitsud_19
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I'm Native American and I would rather live to work as opposed to working to live. If you understand that then you have my answer :P

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#58 Snakewiseman
Member since 2009 • 1287 Posts

worse if no white people came

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#59 Solid_Tango
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The US as we know it wouldn't exist.......:|LJS9502_basic
Why?
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#60 mrbojangles25
Member since 2005 • 60737 Posts

what happened to the American Indians (north, central, and south America too) is tragic, but I have to say that I am extremely happy to be living here.

Do I wish things were handled differerntly? Of course

But I dont want to go back in time and undo everything either