Does anyone actually think Obama will lose re-election?

Why? The chance of Obama losing to Romney is slim at best.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

Before you scream "ERMAHGERD NYTIMES!!! LIBERAL TRASH!!!," Nate Silver accurately predicted the electoral map in 2008. If there's anyone to trust with regards to political predictions--a messy, chaotic business in itself--it's quite possibly this guy.

Key points:

1) Obama still enjoys positive approval ratings

2) Obama has the electoral advantage over Romney

3) The RNC did little to boost Romney's poll numbers

4) Based on what happened today at the DNC tonight, it's safe to say that Obama will keep rising in the polls, ignoring his campaign's inevitable ramp-up and capability to best Romney in the televised debates

The Republicans can rely on Ryan spreading lies and wild claims (such as the ludicrous declaration that Obama's first term was worse than Jimmy Carter's) and can pretend that chanelling Reagan is the path to victory--even though the stiff, awkward corporate-cutout Romney is anything but. Obama has had the clear advantage this coming election and the Republicans are desperately fighting an uphill battle.

An Obama victory is far from guaranteed, even with the Republican candidates being as pathetic as they are.

Lets see. Romney is promising to cut back programs geared toward the poor when there are more poor Americans than any time in recent history. Yeah that sounds like a winning strategy :roll: That said, I would vote for him if I were American because I'm an elitist ahole. I can't say I have much respect for his strategy though. You tell people what want they want to hear. Most don't know the reality of the situation or that much the same will happen regardless of who is elected. Considering this maybe I would vote for Obama. He might be an elitist ahole too but simply smart enough not to act like one.

No, but OT's reaction would be hilarious if he did.

A large amount of voters don't give a crap about the truth, numbers or platforms. They care that their guy wins.Ace6301

I don't see any way Obama loses. I never thought I would pull for Obama, but god Romney is an idiot. I feel like anybody who supports Romney only does so because they hate Obama so much that they will do anything they can to convince themselves that Romney is better.

There is no way he is going to lose. Don't even waste the gas going to the polls and voting for him.

Where I am, a lot of people say if Obama can't get the job done, then it's time for him to pack up and let someone else give it a try. If that guy can't do it, then fire him too in 2016.

My wife and I are lucky to be relatively unscathed during the last few years. But, there's so many people here who weren't as lucky and can't even live from paycheck to paycheck.

Considering how useless Mitt Romney is, and what the GOP platform has transformed into, it should be an easy win for Obama. However, with the economy still struggling, Obama is very vulnerable.

If Obama really is going to offer a concrete way of moving forward to improve the economy in the next four years, eh'll be up on Romney, who has shown no plan at all.

The GOP is running almost completely on "Anyone but Obama", which will only get so many votes. That kind of campaign underestimates the intelligence of the voting public.

It would an upset if he wins it like Truman over Dewey.

Obama will not lose

Romney is either up by 1 point or even according to RCP. Also an overwhelming number of people say we're on the wrong track and that we are worse off today then when the President took office... not only is it possible, but likely that Obama will lose.DevilMightCry

Fours years of Romney pushing austerity and social conservatism would turn people back to the Democratic party, I'm sure.

romney wants to cut the poor.....why would anybody vote for him?

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"]Romney is either up by 1 point or even according to RCP. Also an overwhelming number of people say we're on the wrong track and that we are worse off today then when the President took office... not only is it possible, but likely that Obama will lose.jimkabrhel

Fours years of Romney pushing austerity and social conservatism would turn people back to the Democratic party, I'm sure.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"]Romney is either up by 1 point or even according to RCP. Also an overwhelming number of people say we're on the wrong track and that we are worse off today then when the President took office... not only is it possible, but likely that Obama will lose.DevilMightCry

Fours years of Romney pushing austerity and social conservatism would turn people back to the Democratic party, I'm sure.

[/QUOTE Maybe. I think Mitt is serious about wanting to fix the financial and fiscal mess. Of course Democrats are going to oppose him. I still think to this day that we would have been better off with Hilary.

You might be right about Hillary. I would have voted for her, and I respect her a great deal. I do hope she runs in 2016.

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"]Romney is either up by 1 point or even according to RCP. Also an overwhelming number of people say we're on the wrong track and that we are worse off today then when the President took office... not only is it possible, but likely that Obama will lose.jimkabrhel

Fours years of Romney pushing austerity and social conservatism would turn people back to the Democratic party, I'm sure.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"]Romney is either up by 1 point or even according to RCP. Also an overwhelming number of people say we're on the wrong track and that we are worse off today then when the President took office... not only is it possible, but likely that Obama will lose.cslayer211

Fours years of Romney pushing austerity and social conservatism would turn people back to the Democratic party, I'm sure.

I agree with you about what he might truly be, but he has shown that he'll pander to the far-right of his party, and if he wins, they will make him push those views through Congress, if the GOP has control there too.

Romney has proven that the'll change his views to suit the political winds of his party, and those winds are pushing right these days.

Romney/Ryan is just a really lousy ticket.

Problem is the GoP doesn't have anyone they can promote that isn't deranged, ultra-right-wing-conservative or obsolete.

And because their platform is so close-minded, it's difficult for a legit moderate to make it up their ranks and be taken seriously. Romney is as moderate as they can find, but he can't even committ to a position for more than 3 or 4 years before he's flip-flopping all over the place. He's just another "tell everyone what they want to hear until you get what you want."

As for Ryan... well, if you are going to put a guy on your ticket that every major Labor Union in the country hates, you won't get much support from them or their families. So, you can kiss all those votes goodbye.

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

You might be right about Hillary. I would have voted for her, and I respect her a great deal. I do hope she runs in 2016.

jimkabrhel

[QUOTE="cslayer211"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

Fours years of Romney pushing austerity and social conservatism would turn people back to the Democratic party, I'm sure.

jimkabrhel

I agree with you about what he might truly be, but he has shown that he'll pander to the far-right of his party, and if he wins, they will make him push those views through Congress, if the GOP has control there too.

Romney has proven that the'll change his views to suit the political winds of his party, and those winds are pushing right these days.

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[QUOTE="cslayer211"] Lol you think Romney would push social conservatism? At the very least Romney is a centrist. Deep down he really isn't even that conservative. He just says those things so he can get real conservatives to the polls. If he is elected, he will be pushing the more politically popular things than ideological.cslayer211

I agree with you about what he might truly be, but he has shown that he'll pander to the far-right of his party, and if he wins, they will make him push those views through Congress, if the GOP has control there too.

Romney has proven that the'll change his views to suit the political winds of his party, and those winds are pushing right these days.

If that happens, the Tea Party will tear him a new one, and the fractures in the GOP will get far worse.

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"]Romney is either up by 1 point or even according to RCP. Also an overwhelming number of people say we're on the wrong track and that we are worse off today then when the President took office... not only is it possible, but likely that Obama will lose.jimkabrhel

Fours years of Romney pushing austerity and social conservatism would turn people back to the Democratic party, I'm sure.

[/QUOTE Maybe. I think Mitt is serious about wanting to fix the financial and fiscal mess. Of course Democrats are going to oppose him. I still think to this day that we would have been better off with Hilary.

You might be right about Hillary. I would have voted for her, and I respect her a great deal. I do hope she runs in 2016.

I had wanted Hillary in the White House, not Obama. But I voted for Obama in the 2008 election and I'll vote for him again. Romney = bad choice.

[QUOTE="cslayer211"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

I agree with you about what he might truly be, but he has shown that he'll pander to the far-right of his party, and if he wins, they will make him push those views through Congress, if the GOP has control there too.

Romney has proven that the'll change his views to suit the political winds of his party, and those winds are pushing right these days.

jimkabrhel

If that happens, the Tea Party will tear him a new one, and the fractures in the GOP will get far worse.

I fear that Romney would even be voted for. If he was even close to getting elected, the consequences for the rest of the world would be severe. Heck, American economy wouldn't be fixed, the middleclass and the poor would suffer from it, women would be forced to go full term with the child of their rapists/abusive family members, homosexuals and people of a different gender that sticks out of the "heterosexual female" or "heterosexual male" would be lynched. The world would become awful.Deihjan

hahahaa

You never know. I certainly hope he doesn't, obviously the lesser of the 2 evils.

You never know. I certainly hope he doesn't, obviously the lesser of the 2 evils.

tagyhag

All I know is Mitt is not the answer. He looks and acts more like a puppet then anyone else, he seems confused and talks like he has atleast five hands up his ass. He's undecided and way too criptic, he's tries way to hard to fit a false facade,plus that image he's going for is totally out dated and no longer bodes well with real people and their concerns. He's an out of touch dude and you can clearly see it in all the gaffes he so blindly makes. He's clearly out of his element as you can see him flip flopping more than a fish out of water. Obama spend most of his presidency trying to get the GOP to assist him. bnarmz

Mitt is as big a phony as they come. He's not going to reveal what he stands for or what he believes. I don't think he's capable of taking a stand on anything. He's just vacant, a hollow shell. He's hoping if he can be as non-comittal as possible, he can appeal to both the wingnuts of his own party, and to normal people as well.

But do not undersestimate what will happen when his dumptruck full of money shows up. When the dirty tricks campaign swings into high gear. No one has ever liked this guy, and yet he still managed to steamroller through his own party to get the nomination. That was money that did that.

This election is open to the highest bidder.

All I know is Mitt is not the answer. He looks and acts more like a puppet then anyone else, he seems confused and talks like he has atleast five hands up his ass. He's undecided and way too criptic, he's tries way to hard to fit a false facade,plus that image he's going for is totally out dated and no longer bodes well with real people and their concerns. He's an out of touch dude and you can clearly see it in all the gaffes he so blindly makes. He's clearly out of his element as you can see him flip flopping more than a fish out of water. Obama spend most of his presidency trying to get the GOP to assist him., he made claims just like every Prez has and didn't produce. But in all honesty, I know IT'S ALL A SHOW to keep the masses blinded and controlled. bnarmz

Anyone who has pushed the idea of their preferred candidate losing out of their mind has been drinking too much party specific kool-aid. I think it could go either way right now. We'll see come election day.

[QUOTE="bnarmz"]All I know is Mitt is not the answer. He looks and acts more like a puppet then anyone else, he seems confused and talks like he has atleast five hands up his ass. He's undecided and way too criptic, he's tries way to hard to fit a false facade,plus that image he's going for is totally out dated and no longer bodes well with real people and their concerns. He's an out of touch dude and you can clearly see it in all the gaffes he so blindly makes. He's clearly out of his element as you can see him flip flopping more than a fish out of water. Obama spend most of his presidency trying to get the GOP to assist him., he made claims just like every Prez has and didn't produce. But in all honesty, I know IT'S ALL A SHOW to keep the masses blinded and controlled. Deihjan

[QUOTE="Deihjan"][QUOTE="bnarmz"]All I know is Mitt is not the answer. He looks and acts more like a puppet then anyone else, he seems confused and talks like he has atleast five hands up his ass. He's undecided and way too criptic, he's tries way to hard to fit a false facade,plus that image he's going for is totally out dated and no longer bodes well with real people and their concerns. He's an out of touch dude and you can clearly see it in all the gaffes he so blindly makes. He's clearly out of his element as you can see him flip flopping more than a fish out of water. Obama spend most of his presidency trying to get the GOP to assist him., he made claims just like every Prez has and didn't produce. But in all honesty, I know IT'S ALL A SHOW to keep the masses blinded and controlled. cslayer211

i don't know. i wanna say that obama will win hands down, because romney is such a horrible candidate, but obama hasn't really proved himself either--and that might be enough to deter some people from voting democrat and instead go the third-party route, which will just benefit the republicans

Running against Romney I'm pretty sure it is safe for anyone to think Obama will win. Lesser of two evils.