Does anyone else think it's time to get over 911?

It happened almost a decade ago, and didn't really kill all that many people in the scheme of things. I mean the terrorists really pose almost no threat to us when you think about it. You probably have a better chance of being struck by lightning than of being a victim of international terrorism in the US. And then there's how embarassingly this country behaved in the wake of the thing, waging an illegal war on a country that had nothing to do with anything, sinking to the level of the terrorists by resorting to torture and rape of detainees, and passing fascist laws like the patriot act. The whole incident was like a test of whether this country would stand by its princples in a time of crisis, and we failed miserably. Now I'd like to just stop hearing about it.

It happened almost a decade ago, and didn't really kill all that many people in the scheme of things. I mean the terrorists really pose almost no threat to us when you think about it. You probably have a better chance of being struck by lightning than of being a victim of international terrorism in the US. And then there's how embarassingly this country behaved in the wake of the thing, waging an illegal war on a country that had nothing to do with anything, sinking to the level of the terrorists by resorting to torture and rape of detainees, and passing fascist laws like the patriot act. The whole incident was like a test of whether this country would stand by its princples in a time of crisis, and we failed miserably. Now I'd like to just stop hearing about it.

AFraud

your going to get flamed big time on here. but I agree, I did a long time ago. 3000 people is terrible, but more peopel than that die in africa and asia daily. I don't see people crying for them or doing something about it.

Yeah, we should get over and stop remembering Pearl Harbor too :|Oblivionfan10

I refer you to my blog.

[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"]Yeah, we should get over Pearl Harbor too :|Teenaged

Yeah, we should get over and stop remembering Pearl Harbor too :|Oblivionfan10

pearl harbor isnt really that big of a deal. there is no national holiday for it or anything. I don't look at it as anything other than our entrance to the War.

a few thousand military personal and civilians. compared to the hundreds of thousands of civilians we killed throughout the war is nothing. call me what you will but the fact they were American against
foreigners" means nothing to me, a life is a life

Listen I believe as nation we have moved on. I mean by the sounds of it your issue is not the day itself, but the war that happened afterwards which really for all intended purposes of this debate had absolutely nothing to do with september 11, 2001.

Tell that to the families of people who died that day, or the families of the soldiers who gave their lives in the subsequent war. We need to remember that we are one country, one people, and that just because a specific incident didn't affect us personally we have to pull together to remember those of us who were affected and those who died.

[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"]Yeah, we should get over and stop remembering Pearl Harbor too :|SamusFreak

pearl harbor isnt really that big of a deal. there is no national holiday for it or anything. I don't look at it as anything other than our entrance to the War.

a few thousand military personal and civilians. compared to the hundreds of thousands of civilians we killed throughout the war is nothing. call me what you will but the fact they were American against
foreigners" means nothing to me, a life is a life

Also I think the difference between the two is that one is a military base compared to a civilian city and one of the biggest if not the biggest city in the United Stateds. On top of that in the fashion that it happened.

Absolutely not. The death of thousands of people isn't something that you just up and move on from. :|

It was and still is a pretty big deal to Americans, we have moved on, but that does not mean we will never speak of it again or just forget about it.

[QUOTE="SamusFreak"]

[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"]Yeah, we should get over and stop remembering Pearl Harbor too :|xscrapzx

pearl harbor isnt really that big of a deal. there is no national holiday for it or anything. I don't look at it as anything other than our entrance to the War.

a few thousand military personal and civilians. compared to the hundreds of thousands of civilians we killed throughout the war is nothing. call me what you will but the fact they were American against
foreigners" means nothing to me, a life is a life

Also I think the difference between the two is that one is a military base compared to a civilian city and one of the biggest if not the biggest city in the United Stateds. On top of that in the fashion that it happened.

Get over it?? Christ almighty... I am at a loss at what to say.

[QUOTE="SamusFreak"]

[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"]Yeah, we should get over and stop remembering Pearl Harbor too :|xscrapzx

pearl harbor isnt really that big of a deal. there is no national holiday for it or anything. I don't look at it as anything other than our entrance to the War.

a few thousand military personal and civilians. compared to the hundreds of thousands of civilians we killed throughout the war is nothing. call me what you will but the fact they were American against
foreigners" means nothing to me, a life is a life

Also I think the difference between the two is that one is a military base compared to a civilian city and one of the biggest if not the biggest city in the United Stateds. On top of that in the fashion that it happened.

again its a bad thing, but its not eve nclose to anything that doesnt happen daily. and like I said, the fact that it is american doesnt change anything for me.

people starve and are killed everyday. I see nothing special about 9/11 that should put it above everything else

Yeah, we should get over and stop remembering Pearl Harbor too :|Oblivionfan10

The Japanese and Germans had the most powerful and technologically advanced militaries in the world at the time. They posed a legitimate threat and could have easily conquered the world. 911 was a few mangy extremists in caves who got lucky one time and actually managed to blow something up.

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

[QUOTE="SamusFreak"]

pearl harbor isnt really that big of a deal. there is no national holiday for it or anything. I don't look at it as anything other than our entrance to the War.

a few thousand military personal and civilians. compared to the hundreds of thousands of civilians we killed throughout the war is nothing. call me what you will but the fact they were American against
foreigners" means nothing to me, a life is a life

Oblivionfan10

Also I think the difference between the two is that one is a military base compared to a civilian city and one of the biggest if not the biggest city in the United Stateds. On top of that in the fashion that it happened.

what do you mean by both? pearl harbor and us bombing Japan? IM not talking about just teh atoms, we bombed Japan througout the war. our incendiry bombings killed more than the atoms did.

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

[QUOTE="SamusFreak"]

pearl harbor isnt really that big of a deal. there is no national holiday for it or anything. I don't look at it as anything other than our entrance to the War.

a few thousand military personal and civilians. compared to the hundreds of thousands of civilians we killed throughout the war is nothing. call me what you will but the fact they were American against
foreigners" means nothing to me, a life is a life

SamusFreak

Also I think the difference between the two is that one is a military base compared to a civilian city and one of the biggest if not the biggest city in the United Stateds. On top of that in the fashion that it happened.

again its a bad thing, but its not eve nclose to anything that doesnt happen daily. and like I said, the fact that it is american doesnt change anything for me.

people starve and are killed everyday. I see nothing special about 9/11 that should put it above everything else

[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"]Yeah, we should get over and stop remembering Pearl Harbor too :|Teenaged

[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"]Yeah, we should get over and stop remembering Pearl Harbor too :|AFraud

The Japanese and Germans had the most powerful and technologically advanced militaries in the world at the time. They posed a legitimate threat and could have easily conquered the world. 911 was a few mangy extremists in caves who got lucky one time and actually managed to blow something up.

[QUOTE="SamusFreak"]

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"] I wouldn't say its not a big deal. Just because there isn't a holiday named after it I don't believe that people look at it as meh day.

Also I think the difference between the two is that one is a military base compared to a civilian city and one of the biggest if not the biggest city in the United Stateds. On top of that in the fashion that it happened.

xscrapzx

again its a bad thing, but its not eve nclose to anything that doesnt happen daily. and like I said, the fact that it is american doesnt change anything for me.

people starve and are killed everyday. I see nothing special about 9/11 that should put it above everything else

should we forget it? im not saying that, I dont see how it is a that big of a deal. maybe fore americans but like I said that doesnt phase me. one american tradegy means nothing compared to thousands that happen around the world each year. so no, remember it as you please, but i won't shead a tear.

US should take september 11 to remember the hundred of thousand of people who died directly because of september 11 in Afghanistan and Irak... 3000 persons is nothing vs that...Franko_3

this^ yo uknow between them we have indirectly killed almost a million people( the vast majority civilians) due to how we conduct war. this is the same as what I was getting at with pearl harbor. we lost a few thousand americans and went on to kill over a million.

It happened almost a decade ago, and didn't really kill all that many people in the scheme of things. I mean the terrorists really pose almost no threat to us when you think about it. You probably have a better chance of being struck by lightning than of being a victim of international terrorism in the US. And then there's how embarassingly this country behaved in the wake of the thing, waging an illegal war on a country that had nothing to do with anything, sinking to the level of the terrorists by resorting to torture and rape of detainees, and passing fascist laws like the patriot act. The whole incident was like a test of whether this country would stand by its princples in a time of crisis, and we failed miserably. Now I'd like to just stop hearing about it.

AFraud

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"]Yeah, we should get over and stop remembering Pearl Harbor too :|DrSponge

And I am not complaining. I never made a comment on my opinion on the matter. I can just see where the TC is coming from.

Also move on does not mean I have no feelings towards a certain event.

[QUOTE="DrSponge"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]I dont think he said to forget about it, but to try to move on normally.

Teenaged

And I am not complaining. I never made a comment on my opinion on the matter. I can just see where the TC is coming from.

Also move on does not mean I have no feelings towards a certain event.

[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"]Yeah, we should get over and stop remembering Pearl Harbor too :|SamusFreak

pearl harbor isnt really that big of a deal. there is no national holiday for it or anything. I don't look at it as anything other than our entrance to the War.

a few thousand military personal and civilians. compared to the hundreds of thousands of civilians we killed throughout the war is nothing. call me what you will but the fact they were American against
foreigners" means nothing to me, a life is a life

Pearl Harbor wasnt a big deal? wow your just as bad as the op.

People here have no clue wtf they're talking about. "Getting over" something or "moving on" doesn't mean forgetting the event. We have gotten over WW2 and moved on but we don't forget it.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="DrSponge"] Move on? It's not like mourning the dead stops civilization from progressing :| Seriously, I don't understand why people think that remembering a tragedy such as 9/11 is holding humanity back or something. If you feel no connection to the tragedy...then just ignore it.DrSponge

And I am not complaining. I never made a comment on my opinion on the matter. I can just see where the TC is coming from.

Also move on does not mean I have no feelings towards a certain event.

But I cant know what I going on exactly in the USA and how people deal with it. The only clear opinion I have is what I wrote in Theo's blog. And that has to do with other facets of the issue.

[QUOTE="AFraud"]

It happened almost a decade ago, and didn't really kill all that many people in the scheme of things. I mean the terrorists really pose almost no threat to us when you think about it. You probably have a better chance of being struck by lightning than of being a victim of international terrorism in the US. And then there's how embarassingly this country behaved in the wake of the thing, waging an illegal war on a country that had nothing to do with anything, sinking to the level of the terrorists by resorting to torture and rape of detainees, and passing fascist laws like the patriot act. The whole incident was like a test of whether this country would stand by its princples in a time of crisis, and we failed miserably. Now I'd like to just stop hearing about it.

Trollsters

almost 2 million innocent lives have been lost between Rawanda and Darfur, they died beucase not one nation in the UN has a single backbone.

where is their grad day or remerbance and mourning? oh I forgot, there not american, so they don't matter.

[QUOTE="SamusFreak"]

[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"]Yeah, we should get over and stop remembering Pearl Harbor too :|Trollsters

pearl harbor isnt really that big of a deal. there is no national holiday for it or anything. I don't look at it as anything other than our entrance to the War.

a few thousand military personal and civilians. compared to the hundreds of thousands of civilians we killed throughout the war is nothing. call me what you will but the fact they were American against
foreigners" means nothing to me, a life is a life

Pearl Harbor wasnt a big deal? wow your just as bad as the op.

its not, you think a few thousand on a very strategic military target means more tha hundreds of thousands in cities. that is a MUCH bigger deal. we shouldnt forget it but it si nowhere near the big, life altering deal that you think it is

[QUOTE="AFraud"]

It happened almost a decade ago, and didn't really kill all that many people in the scheme of things. I mean the terrorists really pose almost no threat to us when you think about it. You probably have a better chance of being struck by lightning than of being a victim of international terrorism in the US. And then there's how embarassingly this country behaved in the wake of the thing, waging an illegal war on a country that had nothing to do with anything, sinking to the level of the terrorists by resorting to torture and rape of detainees, and passing fascist laws like the patriot act. The whole incident was like a test of whether this country would stand by its princples in a time of crisis, and we failed miserably. Now I'd like to just stop hearing about it.

Trollsters

The correct response to the situation was to use special forces and airstrikes with the specific intent of assassinating Bin Laden. The situation called for a scalpel and we used a sledge hammer, starting a misguided crusade and waging war on a country that had nothing to do with anything. And now we don't even know where Bin Laden, the person resonsible, is at this moment.

No I don't like what the government has done to protect me. They behaved like moronic douchebags.

And I'm not leaving. Why is that the battle cry of the right wingers. If you don't like it get out they say, without realizing how un-American and fascist they sound.

People here have no clue wtf they're talking about. "Getting over" something or "moving on" doesn't mean forgetting the event. We have gotten over WW2 and moved on but we don't forget it.

Trinners

[QUOTE="Trollsters"][QUOTE="AFraud"]

It happened almost a decade ago, and didn't really kill all that many people in the scheme of things. I mean the terrorists really pose almost no threat to us when you think about it. You probably have a better chance of being struck by lightning than of being a victim of international terrorism in the US. And then there's how embarassingly this country behaved in the wake of the thing, waging an illegal war on a country that had nothing to do with anything, sinking to the level of the terrorists by resorting to torture and rape of detainees, and passing fascist laws like the patriot act. The whole incident was like a test of whether this country would stand by its princples in a time of crisis, and we failed miserably. Now I'd like to just stop hearing about it.

AFraud

The correct response to the situation was to use special forces and airstrikes with the specific intent of assassinating Bin Laden. The situation called for a scalpel and we used a sledge hammer, starting a misguided crusade and waging war on a country that had nothing to do with anything. And now we don't even know where Bin Laden, the person resonsible, is at this moment.

No I don't like what the government has done to protect me. They behaved like moronic douchebags.

And I'm not leaving. Why is that the battle cry of the right wingers. If you don't like it get out they say, without realizing how un-American and fascist they sound.

Exactly, when the Iraq campaign started it's like the US government forgot who Osama Bin Laden was.

[QUOTE="Trinners"]

People here have no clue wtf they're talking about. "Getting over" something or "moving on" doesn't mean forgetting the event. We have gotten over WW2 and moved on but we don't forget it.

DrSponge

Haven't we already? if not then it's long overdue.

[QUOTE="Trollsters"]

[QUOTE="SamusFreak"]

pearl harbor isnt really that big of a deal. there is no national holiday for it or anything. I don't look at it as anything other than our entrance to the War.

a few thousand military personal and civilians. compared to the hundreds of thousands of civilians we killed throughout the war is nothing. call me what you will but the fact they were American against
foreigners" means nothing to me, a life is a life

SamusFreak

Pearl Harbor wasnt a big deal? wow your just as bad as the op.

its not, you think a few thousand on a very strategic military target means more tha hundreds of thousands in cities. that is a MUCH bigger deal. we shouldnt forget it but it si nowhere near the big, life altering deal that you think it is

[QUOTE="Trollsters"][QUOTE="AFraud"]

It happened almost a decade ago, and didn't really kill all that many people in the scheme of things. I mean the terrorists really pose almost no threat to us when you think about it. You probably have a better chance of being struck by lightning than of being a victim of international terrorism in the US. And then there's how embarassingly this country behaved in the wake of the thing, waging an illegal war on a country that had nothing to do with anything, sinking to the level of the terrorists by resorting to torture and rape of detainees, and passing fascist laws like the patriot act. The whole incident was like a test of whether this country would stand by its princples in a time of crisis, and we failed miserably. Now I'd like to just stop hearing about it.

AFraud

The correct response to the situation was to use special forces and airstrikes with the specific intent of assassinating Bin Laden. The situation called for a scalpel and we used a sledge hammer, starting a misguided crusade and waging war on a country that had nothing to do with anything. And now we don't even know where Bin Laden, the person resonsible, is at this moment.

No I don't like what the government has done to protect me. They behaved like moronic douchebags.

And I'm not leaving. Why is that the battle cry of the right wingers. If you don't like it get out they say, without realizing how un-American and fascist they sound.

becuase they are blind and brainwashed and dont realize the corprotist( quasi facsist) state taht wew have become.

[QUOTE="Trollsters"][QUOTE="AFraud"]

It happened almost a decade ago, and didn't really kill all that many people in the scheme of things. I mean the terrorists really pose almost no threat to us when you think about it. You probably have a better chance of being struck by lightning than of being a victim of international terrorism in the US. And then there's how embarassingly this country behaved in the wake of the thing, waging an illegal war on a country that had nothing to do with anything, sinking to the level of the terrorists by resorting to torture and rape of detainees, and passing fascist laws like the patriot act. The whole incident was like a test of whether this country would stand by its princples in a time of crisis, and we failed miserably. Now I'd like to just stop hearing about it.

almost 2 million innocent lives have been lost between Rawanda and Darfur, they died beucase not one nation in the UN has a single backbone.

where is their grad day or remerbance and mourning? oh I forgot, there not american, so they don't matter.

[QUOTE="SamusFreak"]

[QUOTE="Trollsters"]

Pearl Harbor wasnt a big deal? wow your just as bad as the op.

Oblivionfan10

its not, you think a few thousand on a very strategic military target means more tha hundreds of thousands in cities. that is a MUCH bigger deal. we shouldnt forget it but it si nowhere near the big, life altering deal that you think it is

I know this and you have that right. but I do not(as a few others here dont) you are calling me out for not thinking it is a big deal. It in no way has affected me( or you) and while it is bad I do not believe it justified what came after wards

Tell that to the families of people who died that day, or the families of the soldiers who gave their lives in the subsequent war. We need to remember that we are one country, one people, and that just because a specific incident didn't affect us personally we have to pull together to remember those of us who were affected and those who died.

10thwonder

Well-said, 10thwonder.:) My feelings exactly.

[QUOTE="AFraud"]

if you dont like what the governement has done to protect you, leave. 3000 innocent lives were lost. There will never be a time to "get over it" Maybe if you lost someone you would understand.Trollsters

The correct response to the situation was to use special forces and airstrikes with the specific intent of assassinating Bin Laden. The situation called for a scalpel and we used a sledge hammer, starting a misguided crusade and waging war on a country that had nothing to do with anything. And now we don't even know where Bin Laden, the person resonsible, is at this moment.

No I don't like what the government has done to protect me. They behaved like moronic douchebags.

And I'm not leaving. Why is that the battle cry of the right wingers. If you don't like it get out they say, without realizing how un-American and fascist they sound.

becuase they are blind and brainwashed and dont realize the corprotist( quasi facsist) state taht wew have become.

[QUOTE="Trollsters"][QUOTE="AFraud"]

It happened almost a decade ago, and didn't really kill all that many people in the scheme of things. I mean the terrorists really pose almost no threat to us when you think about it. You probably have a better chance of being struck by lightning than of being a victim of international terrorism in the US. And then there's how embarassingly this country behaved in the wake of the thing, waging an illegal war on a country that had nothing to do with anything, sinking to the level of the terrorists by resorting to torture and rape of detainees, and passing fascist laws like the patriot act. The whole incident was like a test of whether this country would stand by its princples in a time of crisis, and we failed miserably. Now I'd like to just stop hearing about it.

The correct response to the situation was to use special forces and airstrikes with the specific intent of assassinating Bin Laden. The situation called for a scalpel and we used a sledge hammer, starting a misguided crusade and waging war on a country that had nothing to do with anything. And now we don't even know where Bin Laden, the person resonsible, is at this moment.

No I don't like what the government has done to protect me. They behaved like moronic douchebags.

And I'm not leaving. Why is that the battle cry of the right wingers. If you don't like it get out they say, without realizing how un-American and fascist they sound.

[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"]

[QUOTE="SamusFreak"]

its not, you think a few thousand on a very strategic military target means more tha hundreds of thousands in cities. that is a MUCH bigger deal. we shouldnt forget it but it si nowhere near the big, life altering deal that you think it is

I know this and you have that right. but I do not(as a few others here dont) you are calling me out for not thinking it is a big deal. It in no way has affected me( or you) and while it is bad I do not believe it justified what came after wards