Does anyone else think it's time to get over 911?

I have gotten over 9/11/'01, I won't forget it though.

I haven't gotten over 9/11/'73, everyone seems to have forgotten it though.

Yeah, we should get over and stop remembering Pearl Harbor too :|Oblivionfan10

untill i get the turth from our lying government, that will be the day we shall forget

I have gotten over 9/11/'01, I won't forget it though.

I haven't gotten over 9/11/'73, everyone seems to have forgotten it though.

Flanker15

You weren't even born then, though sometimes I wonder.

Yes, everyone should be able to move on and "get over" the attack. It happened, many innocent people were killed, now its time to learn from that experience and prevent it from happening in the future. No one should dwell on it.

foxhound_fox

i dunno man, how would you feel if you get crushed by tonnes of building debris, being crushed into a pulp, getting ripped apart, or getting burned alive through the Combustion of the flames inside. I think you would wanna be remembered at least once a year. I mean its only a once a year thing.

Absolutely not. The death of thousands of people isn't something that you just up and move on from. :|

Dark_Knight6

Ehhh along the same line you should be hung up on every single day of the year...we shouldn't forget it but we shouldn't treat it as if it happened yesterday

I am in no way trying to be insensitive but i got over it on 9/12. I was a tad peeved that they sucker punched us like that but none of those people would have cared if i died. Logically i cant make myself care that they did.

I honestly lack the part of a human that makes you feel genuinely bad about bad stuff. Not that i purposely dont care. I just lack that functionality as a person.

I think its time to stop making such a huge deal about it. When someone brings up 9/11 it trumps almost anything, healthcare, poverty, war, crime etc, all are insignificant once a politician drops 9/11 in a speech.

I think we need to understand that this is the event that ruled our nation for 8 years. An event that had us living in fear and buying plastic wrap and duct tape. An event that signed our rights away. I'm still trying to figure out if the bigger deal is 9/11 or the steps backward the US government took after 9/11.

The event shouldn't be forgotten since it was a failure on almost every level of security and inteligence in this country, but it needs to stop being an excuse.

For americans, I don't think so. I will never forget it.It's part of our history and was an event that changed many things. You guys seem to be focusing on body count and forgetting the true significance of the event. Obviously this event is going to have more meaning to americans, because we were the ones affected by it. It was the start of a war, how could that not be significant?

Yea I agree...its not like we're going to FORGET about it...but just move on and get over it. Every year we'ere gonna do a huge thing about it? I live in NY and was on my way to the CITY to go get a checkup on the day it happened...so Its not like I dont care. I really do care, but I think some people just hang on to things too long.

It happened almost a decade ago, and didn't really kill all that many people in the scheme of things. I mean the terrorists really pose almost no threat to us when you think about it. You probably have a better chance of being struck by lightning than of being a victim of international terrorism in the US. And then there's how embarassingly this country behaved in the wake of the thing, waging an illegal war on a country that had nothing to do with anything, sinking to the level of the terrorists by resorting to torture and rape of detainees, and passing fascist laws like the patriot act. The whole incident was like a test of whether this country would stand by its princples in a time of crisis, and we failed miserably. Now I'd like to just stop hearing about it.

AFraud

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It happened almost a decade ago, and didn't really kill all that many people in the scheme of things. I mean the terrorists really pose almost no threat to us when you think about it. You probably have a better chance of being struck by lightning than of being a victim of international terrorism in the US. And then there's how embarassingly this country behaved in the wake of the thing, waging an illegal war on a country that had nothing to do with anything, sinking to the level of the terrorists by resorting to torture and rape of detainees, and passing fascist laws like the patriot act. The whole incident was like a test of whether this country would stand by its princples in a time of crisis, and we failed miserably. Now I'd like to just stop hearing about it.

AFraud

I can see where you're coming from, the continuous reminders and TV shows about it whenever september rolls around again are a bit ghoulish to say the least (anyone see the show about the last calls received from those in the towers recently? just....so wrong), but this is basically the event that defines our generation. Our parents/grandparents had WW2, and this "war on terror" thing, rightly or wrongly, is ours. The day will be forever etched on the collective psyche because it had such a huge impact on international affairs thereafter. And you're wrong to say terrorists pose no threat. In fact, I find that statement hugely offensive. Just because the US has yet to suffer further attacks doesn't mean teh rest of us haven't either. The Madrid and London bombings being prime examples.

Anyone who thinks that the media overplays the whole 9/11 thing is probably right, that's what they do. In the UK, we're still getting programmes about Princess Diana, and she died a long, long time ago now...the media will continue to cover it as long as it is deemed "a good story". but anyone who thinks it isn't important is a fool, and should probably open their eyes to what is going on around us every single day.

P.S, i'm not suggesting that's what you think, I realise you mean we need to stop obsessing and move on, but there are plenty of people who dismiss 9/11 these days...

9/11 should not be forgotten. If we forget events that happened in history, those events will repeat themselves.

but yes, people should "move on" from it. 9/11 was a tragic day, but you cannot live your life having your mind always dwelling on 9/11, or else you are allowing the terrorists to win.

You should move on, but never forget 9/11. This is the case for any tragedy in history, really.

For americans, I don't think so. I will never forget it.It's part of our history and was an event that changed many things. You guys seem to be focusing on body count and forgetting the true significance of the event. Obviously this event is going to have more meaning to americans, because we were the ones affected by it. It was the start of a war, how could that not be significant?

sonicare

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[QUOTE="SamusFreak"]

pearl harbor isnt really that big of a deal. there is no national holiday for it or anything. I don't look at it as anything other than our entrance to the War.

a few thousand military personal and civilians. compared to the hundreds of thousands of civilians we killed throughout the war is nothing. call me what you will but the fact they were American against
foreigners" means nothing to me, a life is a life

SamusFreak

Pearl Harbor wasnt a big deal? wow your just as bad as the op.

its not, you think a few thousand on a very strategic military target means more tha hundreds of thousands in cities. that is a MUCH bigger deal. we shouldnt forget it but it si nowhere near the big, life altering deal that you think it is

how can you fault americans for being more affected by 9/11? i understand what your saying about the terrible things that happen around the world, but that hasn't shaped our mind set. You can't truly fathom the genocides in africa if you haven't experienced them. what we experienced was 9/11. terrorist attacks and genocide might be common around the world today, but this stuff NEVER happens in america. you can't fault american citizen's for being innocent to the worst of this world and being shocked when some guys fly some planes into the heart of NYC.

Fault the UN delegates for doing nothing, but don't act like americans shouldn't have been outraged by 9/11. if anything, a world were everyone is just as ignorant to tyranny as americans are should be the goal.

I really don't understand why people are all upset at the fact that this country takes some time to remember the people that suffered or died that day. I just can't fathom it. Don't what the news then, I mean is it that difficult? Don't come on here and insult people and say gee get over it there are worst things that have happened. I understand that things happen everyday around this world that you could argue and say that it was worse than 9-11. The bottom line is America doesn't go through what a lot of other countries might go through and to have something of that magnitude happen its hard to just say get over it.

[QUOTE="Solid_Snake325"]It's hard to believe that many of you are teenagers based on your shocked and appalled reactions to TC as if you're war veterans. Personally I agree with him, and when I look at the atrocious acts happening around the world such as natural disasters, war, and terrorism, I can't help but think that 3000 really wasn't a large enough number of people to make such a big deal out of 9/11. It seems a bit ridiculous to be constantly reminded of it. RotaryRX7

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="Solid_Snake325"]It's hard to believe that many of you are teenagers based on your shocked and appalled reactions to TC as if you're war veterans. Personally I agree with him, and when I look at the atrocious acts happening around the world such as natural disasters, war, and terrorism, I can't help but think that 3000 really wasn't a large enough number of people to make such a big deal out of 9/11. It seems a bit ridiculous to be constantly reminded of it. CoreoVII

Yes. I want you to believe that the people in U.S. are very much that callous. Especially my generation. Im 21. I forgot all about 9/11 till this thread. Call me disgusting, pathetic, whatever, but im just being honest. You very well know that people trully don't care.

Absolutely not. The death of thousands of people isn't something that you just up and move on from. :|

Dark_Knight6

i'm not American and i couldn't care less for what happen in this world

And you're wrong to say terrorists pose no threat. In fact, I find that statement hugely offensive. Just because the US has yet to suffer further attacks doesn't mean teh rest of us haven't either. The Madrid and London bombings being prime examples.shaunk89

We shouldn't forget it but people should get over it. The death toll was at a little under 3,000, if you believe that figure is worth a memorial day you'd have to make pretty much every day of the year a memorial day.markop2003

[QUOTE="markop2003"]We shouldn't forget it but people should get over it. The death toll was at a little under 3,000, if you believe that figure is worth a memorial day you'd have to make pretty much every day of the year a memorial day.-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="markop2003"]We shouldn't forget it but people should get over it. The death toll was at a little under 3,000, if you believe that figure is worth a memorial day you'd have to make pretty much every day of the year a memorial day.markop2003

[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] It's not every day that over 3,000 people are murdered.-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] It's not every day that over 3,000 people are murdered.-Sun_Tzu-

There was that oneweek about 64 years ago where over 200,000 people were killed in the course of three days.

I'm sorta in the middle on this one. I was actually just talking to someone about the weeks following the attacks and how just about every singleTV station was showing the EXACT same footage over and over and over again, and how it was just sort of inescapable. I do recognize that it was a tragedy and I do feel sorry for its victims, but at the same time I think about how good we have it here that an attack like that is considered a tragedy at all. Perhaps 3,000 people don't die on one day, but whenever I hear Americans complain about living in fear of terrorism I get a little pissed off. Compared to other countries, the level of violence and threat of attack is extremely low, almost insignificant. There are people in other parts of the world who are unlucky enough to live in war zones, or in areas of cosntant conflict like the West Bank and Gaza, or under oppressive regimes. There's just so much violence in the world in places where the population doesn't have the means to recover the way we did that it seems so petty on our part to somehow elevate our problems to such a level. That, plus there seems to be a bit of a double-standard in our minds. There are people in the world who have to witness first hand the effects of our military's involvement every day of their lives, yet the general population is so oblivious to how we've affected the world over the past sixty years. I don't know that getting past 9/11 is the answer, but I definitely think we need to stop focusing so much on it and broaden our view of teh world as a nation.

[QUOTE="RotaryRX7"][QUOTE="Solid_Snake325"]It's hard to believe that many of you are teenagers based on your shocked and appalled reactions to TC as if you're war veterans. Personally I agree with him, and when I look at the atrocious acts happening around the world such as natural disasters, war, and terrorism, I can't help but think that 3000 really wasn't a large enough number of people to make such a big deal out of 9/11. It seems a bit ridiculous to be constantly reminded of it. Solid_Snake325

Al-CIAda was responsible for the 9/11 attacks, it was an easy way to pass the Patriot Act quickly.

Just watch Bush in the classroom and then listen to interviews years later where he talks about seeing the planes on the tv at the achool, even though he didnt see anything at the school regarding the planes going through the towers, he was just told there was an attack.

I'm sick of people still being sucked in to believing a bunch of Arabs with boxcutters flew planes into the towers as well... so not likely. Even a few people who did the flight school with one of the suspected pilots of the 9/11 attacks said theres no way in hell that guy had the skill to do that.

Ugh im done, watch Zeitgeist or something and realize Israel owns the United States and always will.

Al-CIAda was responsible for the 9/11 attacks, it was an easy way to pass the Patriot Act quickly.

Just watch Bush in the classroom and then listen to interviews years later where he talks about seeing the planes on the tv at the achool, even though he didnt see anything at the school regarding the planes going through the towers, he was just told there was an attack.

I'm sick of people still being sucked in to believing a bunch of Arabs with boxcutters flew planes into the towers as well... so not likely. Even a few people who did the flight school with one of the suspected pilots of the 9/11 attacks said theres no way in hell that guy had the skill to do that.

Ugh im done, watch Zeitgeist or something and realize Israel owns the United States and always will.

rygu79

Al-CIAda was responsible for the 9/11 attacks, it was an easy way to pass the Patriot Act quickly.

Just watch Bush in the classroom and then listen to interviews years later where he talks about seeing the planes on the tv at the achool, even though he didnt see anything at the school regarding the planes going through the towers, he was just told there was an attack.

I'm sick of people still being sucked in to believing a bunch of Arabs with boxcutters flew planes into the towers as well... so not likely. Even a few people who did the flight school with one of the suspected pilots of the 9/11 attacks said theres no way in hell that guy had the skill to do that.

Ugh im done, watch Zeitgeist or something and realize Israel owns the United States and always will.

rygu79

The thing with 9/11 is, it wasn't that 2,993 people died, it was the way they did it.

for a moment, think about it. Giant cans full of everyday people and jet fuel were thrown into two of the tallest buildings in the US and the center of America's military at around 200 (or whatever it was) mph. Hundreds of the people that died were stuck above where the planes hit the two skyscrapers and were hopelessly screwed. emergency service personal who tried to go and get those people were killed when the two 110-story buildings collapsed onto the center of the financial capitol of the largest western country. It wasn't like Pearl Harbor where it was a nation-state attacking the military of another nation-state, this was seemingly a personal attack on every single american.

The thing with America is that it is angry and spiteful, we won't "get over it" until there is a long trail of dead-bodies and a few oppled governments. The reason why you might might be wanting to sweep it under the rug of history is because of the reaction to it was exploitive and corrupt. But don't undermine the significance of a generation defining event becasue of the actions of a lame-duck administration the was in over it's head.

[QUOTE="rygu79"]

Al-CIAda was responsible for the 9/11 attacks, it was an easy way to pass the Patriot Act quickly.

Just watch Bush in the classroom and then listen to interviews years later where he talks about seeing the planes on the tv at the achool, even though he didnt see anything at the school regarding the planes going through the towers, he was just told there was an attack.

I'm sick of people still being sucked in to believing a bunch of Arabs with boxcutters flew planes into the towers as well... so not likely. Even a few people who did the flight school with one of the suspected pilots of the 9/11 attacks said theres no way in hell that guy had the skill to do that.

Ugh im done, watch Zeitgeist or something and realize Israel owns the United States and always will.

LJS9502_basic

Haha by who? Members of Haliburton?

[QUOTE="rygu79"]

Al-CIAda was responsible for the 9/11 attacks, it was an easy way to pass the Patriot Act quickly.

Just watch Bush in the classroom and then listen to interviews years later where he talks about seeing the planes on the tv at the achool, even though he didnt see anything at the school regarding the planes going through the towers, he was just told there was an attack.

I'm sick of people still being sucked in to believing a bunch of Arabs with boxcutters flew planes into the towers as well... so not likely. Even a few people who did the flight school with one of the suspected pilots of the 9/11 attacks said theres no way in hell that guy had the skill to do that.

Ugh im done, watch Zeitgeist or something and realize Israel owns the United States and always will.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="rygu79"]

Al-CIAda was responsible for the 9/11 attacks, it was an easy way to pass the Patriot Act quickly.

Just watch Bush in the classroom and then listen to interviews years later where he talks about seeing the planes on the tv at the achool, even though he didnt see anything at the school regarding the planes going through the towers, he was just told there was an attack.

I'm sick of people still being sucked in to believing a bunch of Arabs with boxcutters flew planes into the towers as well... so not likely. Even a few people who did the flight school with one of the suspected pilots of the 9/11 attacks said theres no way in hell that guy had the skill to do that.

Ugh im done, watch Zeitgeist or something and realize Israel owns the United States and always will.

samuraiguns

The thing with 9/11 is, it wasn't that 2,993 people died, it was the way they did it.

for a moment, think about it. Giant cans full of everyday people and jet fuel were thrown into two of the tallest buildings in the US and the center of America's military at around 200 (or whatever it was) mph. Hundreds of the people that died were stuck above where the planes hit the two skyscrapers and were hopelessly screwed. emergency service personal who tried to go and get those people were killed when the two 110-story buildings collapsed onto the center of the financial capitol of the largest western country. It wasn't like Pearl Harbor where it was a nation-state attacking the military of another nation-state, this was seemingly a personal attack on every single american.

The thing with America is that it is angry and spiteful, we won't "get over it" until there is a long trail of dead-bodies and a few oppled governments. The reason why you might might be wanting to sweep it under the rug of history is because of the reaction to it was exploitive and corrupt. But don't undermine the significance of a generation defining event becasue of the actions of a lame-duck administration the was in over it's head.

borgmaster

Still don't think that adds anything to the argument that 9/11 is more significant that other tragedies. Look at Russia's conflicts with its former Soviet states, innocent civilians die because of Russian imperialism which they had nothing to do with. Look at African nations that are in constant conflict, farmers, fishermen, and everyday workers die because of the pursuit of capitalist wealth by greedy and amoral individuals. Look at Middle Eastern conflicts, centuries-old fueds being played out across conflict zones with first world intervention only exacerbating things. All around the world average people are dying because of conflicts they have little to nothing to do with, because they just happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, and somehow I'm supposed to feel more sympathetic towards 9/11 victims because they lived in a country that was privelged enough not to have that constant threat surrounding them? Not gonna happen. And again, what about Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Two non-military targets killing over 200,000 civilians in heavily populated metropolitan areas withoutany warning other than a vague threat during wartime. Those people were just going about their daily lives as well, and all of the sudden two major cities are wiped off the map. I'm not here to discuss the rights or wrongs of the bombings, but I just don't see how teh same people who argue that 9/11 is especially tragic could be so in favor of nuclear strikes against civilian populations as a necessity.

Absolutely not. The death of thousands of people isn't something that you just up and move on from. :|

Dark_Knight6

[QUOTE="borgmaster"]

The thing with 9/11 is, it wasn't that 2,993 people died, it was the way they did it.

for a moment, think about it. Giant cans full of everyday people and jet fuel were thrown into two of the tallest buildings in the US and the center of America's military at around 200 (or whatever it was) mph. Hundreds of the people that died were stuck above where the planes hit the two skyscrapers and were hopelessly screwed. emergency service personal who tried to go and get those people were killed when the two 110-story buildings collapsed onto the center of the financial capitol of the largest western country. It wasn't like Pearl Harbor where it was a nation-state attacking the military of another nation-state, this was seemingly a personal attack on every single american.

The thing with America is that it is angry and spiteful, we won't "get over it" until there is a long trail of dead-bodies and a few oppled governments. The reason why you might might be wanting to sweep it under the rug of history is because of the reaction to it was exploitive and corrupt. But don't undermine the significance of a generation defining event becasue of the actions of a lame-duck administration the was in over it's head.

theone86

Still don't think that adds anything to the argument that 9/11 is more significant that other tragedies. Look at Russia's conflicts with its former Soviet states, innocent civilians die because of Russian imperialism which they had nothing to do with. Look at African nations that are in constant conflict, farmers, fishermen, and everyday workers die because of the pursuit of capitalist wealth by greedy and amoral individuals. Look at Middle Eastern conflicts, centuries-old fueds being played out across conflict zones with first world intervention only exacerbating things. All around the world average people are dying because of conflicts they have little to nothing to do with, because they just happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, and somehow I'm supposed to feel more sympathetic towards 9/11 victims because they lived in a country that was privelged enough not to have that constant threat surrounding them? Not gonna happen. And again, what about Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Two non-military targets killing over 200,000 civilians in heavily populated metropolitan areas withoutany warning other than a vague threat during wartime. Those people were just going about their daily lives as well, and all of the sudden two major cities are wiped off the map. I'm not here to discuss the rights or wrongs of the bombings, but I just don't see how teh same people who argue that 9/11 is especially tragic could be so in favor of nuclear strikes against civilian populations as a necessity.

[QUOTE="Solid_Snake325"][QUOTE="RotaryRX7"] Yes, once a year is quite frequent and totally inconvenient to be reminded of the worst terrorism act on our country ever... :|LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="rygu79"]

Al-CIAda was responsible for the 9/11 attacks, it was an easy way to pass the Patriot Act quickly.

Just watch Bush in the classroom and then listen to interviews years later where he talks about seeing the planes on the tv at the achool, even though he didnt see anything at the school regarding the planes going through the towers, he was just told there was an attack.

I'm sick of people still being sucked in to believing a bunch of Arabs with boxcutters flew planes into the towers as well... so not likely. Even a few people who did the flight school with one of the suspected pilots of the 9/11 attacks said theres no way in hell that guy had the skill to do that.

Ugh im done, watch Zeitgeist or something and realize Israel owns the United States and always will.

samuraiguns

It is quite good, and very well done.

I mean you don't have to believe everything you hear or see but it does help to get different perspectives on things and not such a "Fox" or "CNN" news perspective on everything.

I just get annoyed when Americans think they're always the "good guys" and anyone who has a different view then they do are the "bad guys".

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

Absolutely not. The death of thousands of people isn't something that you just up and move on from. :|

Legolas_Katarn

Absolutely not. The death of thousands of people isn't something that you just up and move on from. :|

#1 It was a terrorist attack #2 Thousands of people died #3 those referring to Africa....that is an epidemic, not a terrorist attack....that is there own fault they cannot support themselves. kool-aids