Does anyone support Anarchy? (other than people who listen to punk rock)+ poll

I think Fallout 3 explains what a true anarchy state would look like. For example you have raiders and mutants killing you for your stuff and will attack on sight. The only safe spots are with the Brotherhood of steel and regulated cities.

How could anyone live if they have the fear that someone is going to come at night into your home and shoot you in the face because theyre aren't any concequences.

I don't think Fallout 3 is a reputable source for a discussion.

Anarchy isnt the best solution for world peace so NO!

I would so totally support anarchy if it wound up like Fallout 3. I mean come on how bad ass would that be?

But it won't, and anarchy is stupid in every way in my eyes.

sounds kinda good to me. currently, if a stong guy punches a wimpy nerd like me, he gets in some trouble, but thats that, whereas if i do what i do, and take a gas airsoft gun, reinforce it's tank, and make it strong enough to make him bleed (far less than he could make me bleed unarmed) i would go to jail for life..... what the hell? and of course, in anarchy my weapons wouldn't be limited by legality. yes, i am a little strange.

No, I don't think that Somalia is the picture I have in mind when I think "utopia". :P

Hell nay. Anything is better than Anarchy.

ANARCHY AND RAPE!

Nah, I dont care for it much.

"Anarchy" is applied to several different belief systems, and Fallout is a video game about a 50s style nuclear dystopia where giant yellow skinned people shoot lasers at zombies.

Anarchy is an ideal for me, but I don't think it's very realistic. There would always be some people to abuse it. With our current society, it would just be a huge mess. Fun while it lasts, but still, a mess. Maybe one day it will be possible though. I hope so. And yeah, I listen to punk rock, so I guess I cheated :P

I love punk and I hate anarchy. There's no way for anarchy to work, because society would just regroup to social classes, the smartest and the strongest would work their way to the top, the weak would follow and the rest would flaw. Have something nice? not for long, buddy down the street has nothing stopping him from shooting you in the dead of night and taking it all.HybridPhoenix

I'm quoted in your sig :o

It's an honour, really :D

Anarchy is not Fallout 3... I don't think you know what anarchism isp2rus

No, I don't think that Somalia is the picture I have in mind when I think "utopia". :P

GabuEx

"Anarchy" is applied to several different belief systems, and Fallout is a video game about a 50s style nuclear dystopia where giant yellow skinned people shoot lasers at zombies.

-TheSecondSign-

[QUOTE="p2rus"]Anarchy is not Fallout 3... I don't think you know what anarchism isKing-Saddam

Of course. Naturally anarchy would mostly disolve into another state system based around the community, but that would a hell of a lot better.

[QUOTE="King-Saddam"]

[QUOTE="p2rus"]Anarchy is not Fallout 3... I don't think you know what anarchism isp2rus

Wrong, anarchy is the complete opposite of socialism. Anarchy means the abscence of all but the most basic forms of governement whereas socialism means that the state controls various aspects of living. Communism can be very much in line with anarchy depending on which theories you espouse, but communism=/=socialism.

In defense of anarchists, any sane anarchist does not think we can just do away with government and that's that, although I do find most anarchists to be simply apathetic and not very concerned about actual social problems other than what they perceive to be their own. Anarchy theory rests upon the idea that people can co-exist without government based on social responsiblity, which for now is some pretty wishful thinking.

No anarchy is the worst possible thing ever, I would rather live in North Korea

[QUOTE="p2rus"][QUOTE="King-Saddam"] it was used as an example. I know what anarchy is : No government or authority

theone86

Wrong, anarchy is the complete opposite of socialism. Anarchy means the abscence of all but the most basic forms of governement whereas socialism means that the state controls various aspects of living. Communism can be very much in line with anarchy depending on which theories you espouse, but communism=/=socialism.

No, I don't think that Somalia is the picture I have in mind when I think "utopia". :P

GabuEx

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[QUOTE="p2rus"] Wrong. Anarchy can be socialist, it can mean communes, extreme individualism, emphasis on cooperation.... In other words, the American conception of anarchism is misconceived and the public is misinformed on the actual details of anarchism: it doesn't mean "oh insanity, fallout 3, chaos" ... again I don't think you know what anarchism is. p2rus

Wrong, anarchy is the complete opposite of socialism. Anarchy means the abscence of all but the most basic forms of governement whereas socialism means that the state controls various aspects of living. Communism can be very much in line with anarchy depending on which theories you espouse, but communism=/=socialism.

MMMM...I dunno, I think the rap it gets is pretty fair. Like I said, I find most anarchists to be pissed off kids who just hate authority in all its forms. I also know that there are a whole plethora of problems that we have to face before we ever start to talk about anarchy seriously and that it's almost garunteed that we won't face all of them in any of our lifetimes. For now, I don't think anarchy can be regarded as anything more than utopianism at best and misguided angst at worst. Maybe someday that will change, but presently we can't even get past minor social differences let alone exist in a fully-functioninganarchistic society.

Anarchy is the one of the worst ideas I have ever heard and I think that it will never work. NEVER.

it'd be fun for a while. as long as i had a gun and easy access to food, water and power. i could just take what i want :twisted:

Since when is a state of anarchy a good thing? :?

Eventually, wouldn't a social hierarchy and some form of government emerge from anarchy? It probably wouldn't be a complex government, but a small dictatorship could theoretically emerge if a one group of people were to amass enough power.

Lol this thread makes me think of this cartoon: jointed

"What the **** you guys aren't real pirates!" :p

I think Anarchism wouldn't we ideal. Just as bad as totalitarianism.

This is one of the dumbest most uninformed post I have ever seen...

No.

Anarchy is just a dumb idea when you think about it. I don't think anyone who supports anarchy has truly thought what anarchy would mean.bededog

I don't think Fallout 3 is a reputable source for a discussion.

metroidfood

Hells yea! Who wants to start The Brotherhood of Steel with me?!?MrLions

Pure anarchy would be like pure totalitarianism. It's just a bad idea. However, a bit more anarchism wouln't harm anyone.

Also, anarchy isn't the same as the lack of organization. It's the lack of hierarchy.

Anarchy - a theory that regards the absence of all direct or coercive government as a political ideal and that proposes the cooperative and voluntary association of individuals and groups as the principal mode of organized society.

Fallout 3 isn't really anarchic. True anarchy is almost like libertarianism. Hmm... I wonder how many punk rockers dwell on the far right?

Anarchy - a theory that regards the absence of all direct or coercive government as a political ideal and that proposes the cooperative and voluntary association of individuals and groups as the principal mode of organized society.

Fallout 3 isn't really anarchic. True anarchy is almost like libertarianism. Hmm... I wonder how many punk rockers dwell on the far right?

PecansAreNuts

Libertarianism doesn't have much to do with right or left. Well, only in america that is.