Does Dell have a near monopoly on laptop/Desktop manufacturing?

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#1 48knightsxiii
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Dell has reported, as well as industry leaders, Dell controls 77% of the Laptop and Desktop market with only HP having 53% even being close with the rest having under 38%. Do you think Dell desrves this? I mean, I think they have a few quality issues.
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Dell products are usually pretty bad. I don't keep up with dell/hp etc. I build my own stuff.
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I would say so since majority of their business is from the corporate world. Never really had an IT job where we were a huge HP house.
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Dell has reported, as well as industry leaders, Dell controls 77% of the Laptop and Desktop market with only HP having 53% even being close with the rest having under 38%. Do you think Dell desrves this? I mean, I think they have a few quality issues.48knightsxiii
Um, no they don't. HP is the #1 selling PC brand...

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first off HP shouldn't even be selling computers, HP doesn't know how to make one really. and secondly Dell is a pretty big company, I wouldn't doubt it.
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[QUOTE="48knightsxiii"]Dell has reported, as well as industry leaders, Dell controls 77% of the Laptop and Desktop market with only HP having 53% even being close with the rest having under 38%. Do you think Dell desrves this? I mean, I think they have a few quality issues.Pirate700

Um, no they don't. HP is the #1 selling PC brand...

laptops and desktops TOGETHER.
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first off HP shouldn't even be selling computers, HP doesn't know how to make one really. and secondly Dell is a pretty big company, I wouldn't doubt it.GameGuy642003
Right. The number one rated PC company doesn't know how to make them. Good Lord, some people's kids on here. SMH...

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[QUOTE="GameGuy642003"]first off HP shouldn't even be selling computers, HP doesn't know how to make one really. and secondly Dell is a pretty big company, I wouldn't doubt it.Pirate700

Right. The number one rated PC company doesn't know how to make them. Good Lord, some people's kids on here. SMH...

Dude i don't know about you but HP's have not gone well with me. My speculation is that they market there products to the highly uneducated computer users. Cheap and Easy it works, the non-IT person doesn't know what they are buying.
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="GameGuy642003"]first off HP shouldn't even be selling computers, HP doesn't know how to make one really. and secondly Dell is a pretty big company, I wouldn't doubt it.GameGuy642003

Right. The number one rated PC company doesn't know how to make them. Good Lord, some people's kids on here. SMH...

Dude i don't know about you but HP's have not gone well with me. My speculation is that they market there products to the highly uneducated computer users. Cheap and Easy it works, the non-IT person doesn't know what they are buying.

Every HP I've had has been great. I can't say the same for the Dells I used to buy. I used to be a Dell guy.

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#10 famicommander
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HP, Acer/Gateway/eMachines, Asus, Samsung, Sony, and Apple all produce the same types of products as Dell, so no?
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#11 Pirate700
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HP, Acer/Gateway/eMachines, Asus, Samsung, Sony, and Apple all produce the same types of products as Dell, so no?famicommander
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[QUOTE="GameGuy642003"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Right. The number one rated PC company doesn't know how to make them. Good Lord, some people's kids on here. SMH...

Pirate700

Dude i don't know about you but HP's have not gone well with me. My speculation is that they market there products to the highly uneducated computer users. Cheap and Easy it works, the non-IT person doesn't know what they are buying.

Every HP I've had has been great. I can't say the same for the Dells I used to buy. I used to be a Dell guy.

Dang, thats suprising. Most everyone I know who has owned an HP says they regret buying one. Seems you lucked out or something. I've also heard Dell's can swing either way, they are tough and durable thats all I can really say about them.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="GameGuy642003"] Dude i don't know about you but HP's have not gone well with me. My speculation is that they market there products to the highly uneducated computer users. Cheap and Easy it works, the non-IT person doesn't know what they are buying.GameGuy642003

Every HP I've had has been great. I can't say the same for the Dells I used to buy. I used to be a Dell guy.

Dang, thats suprising. Most everyone I know who has owned an HP says they regret buying one. Seems you lucked out or something. I've also heard Dell's can swing either way, they are tough and durable thats all I can really say about them.

I haven't lucked out. HP is the #1 rated for a reason.

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I have had two HP laptops and have not had a single problem with them. I can't say that when it comes to Dell. My parents buy Dell but continue to have issues with them. Most of my friends have a mac and love it, but I'm not spending that kind of money on a laptop.
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I guess.. since they are widely used in offices and work places.

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[QUOTE="famicommander"]HP, Acer/Gateway/eMachines, Asus, Samsung, Sony, and Apple all produce the same types of products as Dell, so no?Pirate700

Que?

I thought that was pretty self-explanatory. He was asking whether Dell had a monopoly or near-monopoly. The prevalence of other major competitors sort of precludes that possibility.
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[QUOTE="GameGuy642003"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Every HP I've had has been great. I can't say the same for the Dells I used to buy. I used to be a Dell guy.

Pirate700

Dang, thats suprising. Most everyone I know who has owned an HP says they regret buying one. Seems you lucked out or something. I've also heard Dell's can swing either way, they are tough and durable thats all I can really say about them.

I haven't lucked out. HP is the #1 rated for a reason.

lucky lucky.

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They's like McDingos
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#19 MorbidlyRecluse
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Dell does not have a monopoly on the laptop/desktop industry, I find that they are popular because of their marketing and that's about it. A Dell is just an over glorified paperweight.
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#20 ferrari2001
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I think HP is just ahead in market share. The market share for the PC market is pretty spaced among several different brands. It's good to see that Asus market shares are growing after only a short time in the pre-made business.
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I started out buying HP's never had any issues with those. Then I moved on to just building my PCs. After my house fire I didn't fee like building a new one and just bought a Dell. Hated it. :P Currently using a Razer Blade until I feel like building a new desktop.
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#22 Pirate700
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I think HP is just ahead in market share. The market share for the PC market is pretty spaced among several different brands. It's good to see that Asus market shares are growing after only a short time in the pre-made business. ferrari2001
Hell, my HP basically is an asus. I opened it up to upgrade the power supply and gfx card and it was asus everything. :lol:

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Then I moved on to just building my PCs. N3MO
Thank goodness you did.=3

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[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]I think HP is just ahead in market share. The market share for the PC market is pretty spaced among several different brands. It's good to see that Asus market shares are growing after only a short time in the pre-made business. Pirate700

Hell, my HP basically is an asus. I opened it up to upgrade the power supply and gfx card and it was asus everything. :lol:

Well asus has primarily been a parts manufacturer. It was smart of them to jump into the pre-built business. It saves them money not having to go through a supplier. Plus from my experience their computers have been high quality.
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#25 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]I think HP is just ahead in market share. The market share for the PC market is pretty spaced among several different brands. It's good to see that Asus market shares are growing after only a short time in the pre-made business. ferrari2001

Hell, my HP basically is an asus. I opened it up to upgrade the power supply and gfx card and it was asus everything. :lol:

Well asus has primarily been a parts manufacturer. It was smart of them to jump into the pre-built business. It saves them money not having to go through a supplier. Plus from my experience their computers have been high quality.

I too am a fan of Asus parts.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"]HP, Acer/Gateway/eMachines, Asus, Samsung, Sony, and Apple all produce the same types of products as Dell, so no?famicommander

Que?

I thought that was pretty self-explanatory. He was asking whether Dell had a monopoly or near-monopoly. The prevalence of other major competitors sort of precludes that possibility.

Yet they have small shares of the market. MS had 99% around with OSX and Linux, and that's considered a near monopoly. Dell has over 70% with HP being the only close second, and HP with computer hardware comparision concerned, is having lower numbers, and the other have not even moved. They have a near-monopoly.
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"]HP, Acer/Gateway/eMachines, Asus, Samsung, Sony, and Apple all produce the same types of products as Dell, so no?famicommander

Que?

I thought that was pretty self-explanatory. He was asking whether Dell had a monopoly or near-monopoly. The prevalence of other major competitors sort of precludes that possibility.

Yet they have small shares of the market. MS had 99% around with OSX and Linux, and that's considered a near monopoly. Dell has over 70% with HP being the only close second, and HP with computer hardware comparision concerned, is having lower numbers, and the other have not even moved. They have a near-monopoly.
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#28 Blue-Sky
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Dell is actually behind HP, Leveno, Apple and ASUS in new PC sales.

They had a lot of commercial contracts with businesses in the past I'm not sure about now.

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#29 ferrari2001
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[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Que? 48knightsxiii
I thought that was pretty self-explanatory. He was asking whether Dell had a monopoly or near-monopoly. The prevalence of other major competitors sort of precludes that possibility.

Yet they have small shares of the market. MS had 99% around with OSX and Linux, and that's considered a near monopoly. Dell has over 70% with HP being the only close second, and HP with computer hardware comparision concerned, is having lower numbers, and the other have not even moved. They have a near-monopoly.

Pretty sure Dell is somewhere in the 20% range on sales not 70%. Hp has close to the same.
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[QUOTE="GameGuy642003"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Right. The number one rated PC company doesn't know how to make them. Good Lord, some people's kids on here. SMH...

Pirate700

Dude i don't know about you but HP's have not gone well with me. My speculation is that they market there products to the highly uneducated computer users. Cheap and Easy it works, the non-IT person doesn't know what they are buying.

Every HP I've had has been great. I can't say the same for the Dells I used to buy. I used to be a Dell guy.

I've had 2 HPs die on me less than a month after the warrantee expired so I will never buy another HP again. That said I'm not big on Dell either. Right now my laptop is a lenovo and I love this thing.

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your math doesn't add up...
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Well with booty that tasty its surely no suprise is it?

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Dell has reported, as well as industry leaders, Dell controls 77% of the Laptop and Desktop market with only HP having 53% even being close with the rest having under 38%. Do you think Dell desrves this? I mean, I think they have a few quality issues.48knightsxiii

how does that math add up?

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Dell products are usually pretty bad. I don't keep up with dell/hp etc. I build my own stuff.YoshiYogurt
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[QUOTE="GameGuy642003"]first off HP shouldn't even be selling computers, HP doesn't know how to make one really. and secondly Dell is a pretty big company, I wouldn't doubt it.Pirate700

Right. The number one rated PC company doesn't know how to make them. Good Lord, some people's kids on here. SMH...

I think he meant in the sense that their computers are crap. At least thats the way I see hp or just about any prebuilt computer company with exceptions of course.

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Dell has reported, as well as industry leaders, Dell controls 77% of the Laptop and Desktop market with only HP having 53% even being close with the rest having under 38%. Do you think Dell desrves this? I mean, I think they have a few quality issues.48knightsxiii

How can Dell have 77% and HP have 53% of the market? That's 130% of the market, and that's not even counting the 38% you said the others have.

Honestly Dell's numbers are probably closer to around 10-12% of the market. They were around 17% when I worked there and their share has dropped a lot since then.

On a side note - never buy a Dell they are poorly made. Sure they are cheap in price, but they are also made cheap.

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ITT: People who don't understand IT. Work for any company/go to any school. Tell me what brand computer you use.
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Dell has reported, as well as industry leaders, Dell controls 77% of the Laptop and Desktop market with only HP having 53% even being close with the rest having under 38%. Do you think Dell desrves this? I mean, I think they have a few quality issues.48knightsxiii
77+53+38=/=100, what's wrong with that?

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[QUOTE="48knightsxiii"]Dell has reported, as well as industry leaders, Dell controls 77% of the Laptop and Desktop market with only HP having 53% even being close with the rest having under 38%. Do you think Dell desrves this? I mean, I think they have a few quality issues.Jamiemydearx3

77+53+38=/=100, what's wrong with that?

Glad I am not the only one to notice this.
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[QUOTE="Acemaster27"]ITT: People who don't understand IT. Work for any company/go to any school. Tell me what brand computer you use.

Funny you should mention that haha. Last IT job I had at a university all faculty had Dell's where as the student labs were all HP machines. I hated those HP machines, didn't like imaging that well for whatever reason and their Education Support to get RMA's was horrible.
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#42 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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People who buy prebuilt desktops are sheep.

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#43 JIT93
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People who buy prebuilt desktops are sheep.

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Hey, I brought a prebuilt and just added a power supply and a gfx :( The prebuilt was 500 while the other stuff was 100 more
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Hey, I brought a prebuilt and just added a power supply and a gfx :( The prebuilt was 500 while the other stuff was 100 more JIT93

You're less of a sheep, but still rather silly.

Instead of spending money on those prebuilt components you could have bought comparable parts: a cheap, well-ventilated case, a decent motherboard to suit your needs, RAM, PSU. CPU, HDD and probably spent less than 600 dollars. Especially if you shopped the deals.

Desktops are so amazingly simple to put together. The motherboard manual tells you EXACTLY where to plug everything. There's really no excuse not to do it yourself.

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From a social stand point, I'd laugh, and mention that I see more Macbooks than Dells.

I can say that I think every computer that has been in every one of my schools have all been Dell Desktop PCs. Maybe because they're cheap, or so many are made that a large amount can be bought?

Hp, Dell, and Apple have to be the top sellers though.

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#46 bigfoot2045
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Foxconn has a near monopoly on PC manufacturing. Nearly every computer you buy, regardless of brand, was made by Foxconn.

HP, Dell, Apple, all made by Foxconn and rebranded.

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People who buy prebuilt desktops are sheep.

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Would you like to be in the electronics department of a school, or w/e, and have to put 100s of PCs together, instead of just buying them? Lol. There's also less of a chance for anything to go wrong when buying prebuild rather than building it themselves.
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I work at Micro Center and we only sell a Dell laptop every other day. Our biggest laptop sellers are Asus, Acer, and HP. Sell tens of those a day.
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#49 bigfoot2045
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

People who buy prebuilt desktops are sheep.

jesuschristmonk

Would you like to be in the electronics department of a school, or w/e, and have to put 100s of PCs together, instead of just buying them? Lol. There's also less of a chance for anything to go wrong when buying prebuild rather than building it themselves.

Most of the prebuilts use junky power supplies and subpar motherboards. They're far more likely to have problems than something you put together yourself. Look at all of the Dell desktops from a few years ago that kept having issues with blown capacitors on their motherboards. The prebuilts are cheap because they cut corners.

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Every office I ever worked in used Dell PCs.

However, we also used HP printers and scanners.

Personally, I buy individual parts from various manufacturers. (Antec Cases and Power Supplies, Gigabyte Mobos, Kingston RAM, MSI GPU, etc... etc...)

The only made-to-order/pre-built PCs I ever bought were a Commodore 64 PC, followed by a RadioShack Tandy DOS machine - WAY back in the day.

Ever since I got into Windows 3.5 and 95+, I've been buying individual parts.