Does Dell have a near monopoly on laptop/Desktop manufacturing?

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#51 jesuschristmonk
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Most of the prebuilts use junky power supplies and subpar motherboards. They're far more likely to have problems than something you put together yourself. Look at all of the Dell desktops from a few years ago that kept having issues with blown capacitors on their motherboards. The prebuilts are cheap because they cut corners.

I figured as much. Just that anything could probably still go wrong in the middle of putting a bunch of PCs together, especially if they're rushing. I myself can do the same thing 100 times in a row, and probably still fvck up later on lol.
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Would you like to be in the electronics department of a school, or w/e, and have to put 100s of PCs together, instead of just buying them? Lol. There's also less of a chance for anything to go wrong when buying prebuild rather than building it themselves.jesuschristmonk

I was referring to people who use desktops personally and buy a prebuilt.

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#53 mitu123
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People who buy prebuilt desktops are sheep.

jesuschristmonk

There's also less of a chance for anything to go wrong when buying prebuild rather than building it themselves.

You can't be serious, I have parts die on me more when I owned prebuilts in the past than custom builds, also what bigfoot2045 said.

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#54 Netherscourge
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The only real benefit of pre-builts is system-wide warranties.

(ie. If a Resistor blows on your Video Card and nukes the motherboard and RAM along with it, you get your whole PC replaced.)

If you buy individually, you'd have to file a claim to prove the card itself was defective (which the manufacturer would investigate and make the final determination on) and that you not only want your card replaced, but the other components that it damaged too. If the manufacturer wouldn't honor the warranty or your claim, then you'd need to spend money on a lawyer - making the whole process too expensive to bother with.

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#55 xscrapzx
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No they are not.

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#56 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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People buy them because they're super cheap, hence the market domination. Same with HP. You get what you pay for as far as quality goes. There are exceptions though, the newer XPS laptops and the HP Envys are really good quality machines, up there with Lenovo and Apple.
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#57 xscrapzx
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[QUOTE="jesuschristmonk"][QUOTE="airshocker"]

People who buy prebuilt desktops are sheep.

bigfoot2045

Would you like to be in the electronics department of a school, or w/e, and have to put 100s of PCs together, instead of just buying them? Lol. There's also less of a chance for anything to go wrong when buying prebuild rather than building it themselves.

Most of the prebuilts use junky power supplies and subpar motherboards. They're far more likely to have problems than something you put together yourself. Look at all of the Dell desktops from a few years ago that kept having issues with blown capacitors on their motherboards. The prebuilts are cheap because they cut corners.

That is not true. Corners aren't cut at all. They build the machine for what it is meant for. There is no need to put a big power supply or even an expensive one to run a PC that is going to be specifically used for word processing. Prebuilt machines are built for certain areas. For example Dell Precisions are built for engineers, so they put NVIDIA Quadro cards instead of GTX cards in the box or ATI FireGL isntead of HD series. Thats what they are built to do. Of course you go to walmart to buy a Dell you are buying a lower end cheap model. Again you get what you pay for.
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#58 bigfoot2045
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[QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

[QUOTE="jesuschristmonk"] Would you like to be in the electronics department of a school, or w/e, and have to put 100s of PCs together, instead of just buying them? Lol. There's also less of a chance for anything to go wrong when buying prebuild rather than building it themselves.xscrapzx

Most of the prebuilts use junky power supplies and subpar motherboards. They're far more likely to have problems than something you put together yourself. Look at all of the Dell desktops from a few years ago that kept having issues with blown capacitors on their motherboards. The prebuilts are cheap because they cut corners.

That is not true. Corners aren't cut at all. They build the machine for what it is meant for. There is no need to put a big power supply or even an expensive one to run a PC that is going to be specifically used for word processing. Prebuilt machines are built for certain areas. For example Dell Precisions are built for engineers, so they put NVIDIA Quadro cards instead of GTX cards in the box or ATI FireGL isntead of HD series. Thats what they are built to do. Of course you go to walmart to buy a Dell you are buying a lower end cheap model. Again you get what you pay for.

All PCs should use high quality power supplies, and I'm not talking about wattage. I'm talking about efficiency, current on the 12v rail, and high quality Japanese capacitors. A cheap power supply wastes energy and can destroy your entire computer. In fact, I'd argue that high quality power supplies are more important in business machines than in gaming machines that will be used at home.

Most OEMs use garbage power supplies, which is why their PCs have so many issues.

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#59 jesuschristmonk
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All PCs should use high quality power supplies, and I'm not talking about wattage. I'm talking about efficiency, current on the 12v rail, and high quality Japanese capacitors. A cheap power supply wastes energy and can destroy your entire computer. In fact, I'd argue that high quality power supplies are more important in business machines than in gaming machines that will be used at home.

Most OEMs use garbage power supplies, which is why their PCs have so many issues.

bigfoot2045
To be honest, with what I originally said, I wasn't talking about any of the components literally failing easier if the computer is built yourself (which I have no experience with anyway, so I'm not at liberty to discuss that subject), I just figured that if a school/business does go with buying all the parts separately, and then having the IT people put them together, they may or may not have to rush through getting the computers done, or w/e, and problems, such as forgetting steps/parts, forgetting about safety, etc. may occur during the process. Sorry for not explaining it in greater detail (if I did any better this time) earlier lol.