does God exist?

To me, (in my world) God sounds like a made-up legend. No one can prove that God exists. Ya, there's that dead woman's body that died like 500 years ago and today looks like she just died... But that can't prove that God was involved. Sometimes that stuff just happens..."Miracles". Miracles God didn't create to help us. There's billions, trillions, quadrofillions of people on earth. He wouldn't bother helping one little person out there, there's probably about 5 billion people in the world just like that person. Same with hospitals. They save one face on the earth so there can be more pollutions and 500,000 more people on earth. Which is one more step to Global Warming. (how did I get from God to hospitals?) Anyway, I hope my thoughts make you reconsider the thought of God.

Does He exist?

Where's the "Maybe" option?

We don't know if God or any deity exists. And since you stated "Does God exist?" instead of "Do you believe God exists?", the only real and logical option is "Maybe".

Apparently only in the last few of millenia since most religions before that had multiple deities.

God says yes.KiIIyou

You're lucky. Can you tell him to talk to me one of these days instead of expecting me to arbitrarily believe some book written my humans hundreds of years ago?

You're lucky. Can you tell him to talk to me one of these days instead of expecting me to arbitrarily believe some book written my humans hundreds of years ago?

SpaceMoose

Ezgam3r, I've been meaning to tell you this for a while now:

You have one of the most irritating sigs ever. :P

Ezgam3r, I've been meaning to tell you this for a while now:

You have one of the most irritating sigs ever. :P

SpaceMoose

Don't we already have a religion thread or two on the first page. Why did you make another?shaza91

A topic debated everyday here in OT (or near everyday) with atleast two or so threads debating it. Along with several spinoff "fad" topics.

Anyways, such debates should be left to internally/individually. Each person has their beliefs. It's not a matter of existence or non-existence, it's a matter of believing in something or someone that allows a person to define their life with purpose.

No, God does not exist. Science has debunked him long ago, I'm afraid.MotherSuperior

We've been going over the existence of God in Philosophy class. The arguments we've studied forthe existence of a "God"have been quite interesting.

I'll say yes, just because it's all so compelling.

He exists in your dreams, along with the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus.

Forget the sarcasm though, God was created to explain the unexplainable or to keep orderamong the poor.

I don't know...

My idea of god is if he/she/it exists that they pay little or no notice to us.. Due to the vast majority of our galaxy where we are not even a speck of sand on a beach, I can see why god would pay no mind of us.. A galaxy among millions to billions.. In the end I really think the idea that god looks down man always, is flat out arrogance.. Specially how vunrable we are, there are countless things that could kill us off and we can do nothing about it..

IMO if there is a god, that the being created the big bang and we are here from random chance.. The being/creator might not even realize we exist as a race, let alone as a planet... Either that or they do not care about us.

My idea of god is if he/she/it exists that they pay little or no notice to us.. Due to the vast majority of our galaxy where we are not even a speck of sand on a beach, I can see why god would pay no mind of us.. A galaxy among millions to billions.. In the end I really think the idea that god looks down man always, is flat out arrogance.. Specially how vunrable we are, there are countless things that could kill us off and we can do nothing about it..

IMO if there is a god, that the being created the big bang and we are here from random chance.. The being/creator might not even realize we exist as a race, let alone as a planet... Either that or they do not care about us.

sSubZerOo

To me, (in my world) God sounds like a made-up legend. No one can prove that God exists. Ya, there's that dead woman's body that died like 500 years ago and today looks like she just died... But that can't prove that God was involved. Sometimes that stuff just happens..."Miracles". Miracles God didn't create to help us. There's billions, trillions, quadrofillions of people on earth. He wouldn't bother helping one little person out there, there's probably about 5 billion people in the world just like that person. Same with hospitals. They save one face on the earth so there can be more pollutions and 500,000 more people on earth. Which is one more step to Global Warming. (how did I get from God to hospitals?) Anyway, I hope my thoughts make you reconsider the thought of God.

Does He exist?

Masinai

people from ancient times have asked the same questions. you think by posting in a game forum you'd get the real answers? :|

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My idea of god is if he/she/it exists that they pay little or no notice to us.. Due to the vast majority of our galaxy where we are not even a speck of sand on a beach, I can see why god would pay no mind of us.. A galaxy among millions to billions.. In the end I really think the idea that god looks down man always, is flat out arrogance.. Specially how vunrable we are, there are countless things that could kill us off and we can do nothing about it..

IMO if there is a god, that the being created the big bang and we are here from random chance.. The being/creator might not even realize we exist as a race, let alone as a planet... Either that or they do not care about us.

Ezgam3r

Yes.. Though I think its more rational toconclude that god does not exist, or exists in a completely different form or construction to what they think the being is.

[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

My idea of god is if he/she/it exists that they pay little or no notice to us.. Due to the vast majority of our galaxy where we are not even a speck of sand on a beach, I can see why god would pay no mind of us.. A galaxy among millions to billions.. In the end I really think the idea that god looks down man always, is flat out arrogance.. Specially how vunrable we are, there are countless things that could kill us off and we can do nothing about it..

IMO if there is a god, that the being created the big bang and we are here from random chance.. The being/creator might not even realize we exist as a race, let alone as a planet... Either that or they do not care about us.

sSubZerOo

Yes.. Though I think its more rational toconclude that god does not exist, or exists in a completely different form or construction to what they think the being is.

[QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]No, God does not exist. Science has debunked him long ago, I'm afraid.Ezgam3r

Basically everything science has taught disagrees with Christian teachings, from evolution to the expansion of the universe (Big Bang Theory). Both of these have been proved, the latter only recently with the invention of computers, more sophisticated computerized telescopes, and celestial measuring devices. I will ridicule you to no end if you do not believe in evolution.

YES ppl answer this question my philopshy seminser is on the question does god exist!

people from ancient times have asked the same questions. you think by posting in a game forum you'd get the real answers? :|

rowzzr

[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]No, God does not exist. Science has debunked him long ago, I'm afraid.MotherSuperior

Basically everything science has taught disagrees with Christian teachings, from evolution to the expansion of the universe (Big Bang Theory). Both of these have been proved, the latter only recently with the invention of computers, more sophisticated computerized telescopes, and celestial measuring devices. I will ridicule you to no end if you do not believe in evolution.

Also, where did I say I didn't believe in evolution or that I was a Christian?

[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

My idea of god is if he/she/it exists that they pay little or no notice to us.. Due to the vast majority of our galaxy where we are not even a speck of sand on a beach, I can see why god would pay no mind of us.. A galaxy among millions to billions.. In the end I really think the idea that god looks down man always, is flat out arrogance.. Specially how vunrable we are, there are countless things that could kill us off and we can do nothing about it..

IMO if there is a god, that the being created the big bang and we are here from random chance.. The being/creator might not even realize we exist as a race, let alone as a planet... Either that or they do not care about us.

sSubZerOo

Yes.. Though I think its more rational toconclude that god does not exist, or exists in a completely different form or construction to what they think the being is.

[QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]

[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]No, God does not exist. Science has debunked him long ago, I'm afraid.Ezgam3r

Basically everything science has taught disagrees with Christian teachings, from evolution to the expansion of the universe (Big Bang Theory). Both of these have been proved, the latter only recently with the invention of computers, more sophisticated computerized telescopes, and celestial measuring devices. I will ridicule you to no end if you do not believe in evolution.

Also, where did I say I didn't believe in evolution or that I was a Christian?

Christianity is supposed to be the one true religion. Perfection, one could say. If a proven scientific theory (Evolution) is the exact existential quantifier to disprove how the Bible and Christians believe we came into existence, then the entire religion loses credibility and legitimacy, therefore proving the entire religion is false given only this single negation. Who is to say there aren't more fallacies present in the Bible that have yet to be proven? The BBT states that the entire universe, in the beginning, was infinitely tiny, not infinitely large-which would have to be the case for God's creation of Man. The ever expansion of the Universe is debated among scientists but it is highly likely that the "Big Bang" was the collision of two-or more-dimensions that caused the perpetual expansion of the universe. This is related to the relatively new theory called "String-Theory." That is an entirely different subject, however.

There has to be a God. Do you think the whole world could just happen by chance, and be a perfect place to live on like it is? Seriously think about that. I havn't seen any other planets around in our solar system that support life. It's nice we randomly popped up on this planet by our selves with nothing to explain it.thenarkallaptar

Chemicals.

Dust gathering for millions of years.

It's possible God didn't have anything to do with us.

[QUOTE="thenarkallaptar"]There has to be a God. Do you think the whole world could just happen by chance, and be a perfect place to live on like it is? Seriously think about that. I havn't seen any other planets around in our solar system that support life. It's nice we randomly popped up on this planet by our selves with nothing to explain it.Masinai

Chemicals.

Dust gathering for millions of years.

It's possible God didn't have anything to do with us.

Exactly. All other animals get recycled back into Earth-the origin of humanity. What makes humans the exeption that something "special" happens after we die. We get recycled back into the earth just like every other living thing.

The better question is how many of these types of threads exist.

But anyway, I do believe in him.

I forgot...

We might have all-powerful telescopes..

But telescopes can't see below the surfaces of other planets far off...

Therefore we don't actually know if there's life on other planets.

Also, things need the atmosphere a certain way. Our atmosphere? It makes us live perfectly. Other planet's atmosphere? It may also let other beings on that planet live perfectly, too. Us humans don't know everything, like a young teenager that's in a stage that he/she thinks he/she knows everything.

EDIT: "Like a young teenager that's in a stage that he/she thinks he/she knows everything." I do NOT mean you guys

I believe in God and worship Him. Regardless of whether He's real or not, believing in Him, attending church, and studying my Bible comfort me and make me happy.Faylette

Which is why I believe religion is mandatory for the advancement of civilization, even though its teachings I find suspicious. Never comes the day, I hope, where one can look up into the heavens and not ponder the quandaries that the celestial universe presents us with. Now to only get rid of the religious bias associated with it...hmm

Oh God, I'm going to bed.

;)

Its great you happened to ask here. The OTcontains a database of knowledge that has eluded man for thouands of years.Fortier

Dead serious, this is what I thought when I read that: "qrlfrlt". Don't ask why, I don't know. That's not random letters, I seriously imagined that sound (with relelvant vowels added of course).

There has to be a God. Do you think the whole world could just happen by chance, and be a perfect place to live on like it is? Seriously think about that. I havn't seen any other planets around in our solar system that support life. It's nice we randomly popped up on this planet by our selves with nothing to explain it.thenarkallaptar

I will tell you what my problem with this argument is and has long been.

If I follow that line of reasnoning, then I have to apply the same logic to God himself:

There has to be something that created God. Do you think that something complex enough to create the Earth could exist by chance?

Then you will probably say something like, "God has always existed," which just basically ignores the argument entirely, since the whole point is that the other side is saying that the universe must have always existed (although obviously not in the same state) and you are using that argument to refute THAT claim.

Then you go on to say that none of the other planets in the solar system support life. I'm not sure what kind of argument that is, because if they DID support life, doubtless people would use THAT as evidence that God exists. I'm not sure how that is relevant.

can you prove he doesntfreshgman

That works both ways, you know...

Which is why I believe religion is mandatory for the advancement of civilization, even though its teachings I find suspicious. Never comes the day, I hope, where one can look up into the heavens and not ponder the quandaries that the celestial universe presents us with. Now to only get rid of the religious bias associated with it...hmm

Oh God, I'm going to bed.

;)

MotherSuperior

Yes, I think there is probably something to that. Evolution must have dictated peoples' tendency towards beliefs of various sorts which he have come to classify as religion.

My armchair and rather untestable hypothesis is that since humans are capable of pondering their own existence and the fact that they will die some day no matter what they do, it is - from a species survival standpoint - somehow psychologically beneficial to them to maintain some idea of a higher purpose to existence. There have been many religions throughout the ages, and many of them that I am aware of seem to have a strong emphasis on this notion of having consequences of your actions after you die.

I tend to ask myself why humans do a lot of things looking at it from an evolution perspective.

These topics/threads will end up in a neverending discussion.

I guess you will know when you die and meet him or have a encounter with him in some way during the course of your life.

I believe in GOD even tho i have doubts - but yeh its a personal thing/faith and each to their own i guess.