does Islam recieve preferential treatment?

We seem to get our fair share of topics regarding Christianity (and I certainly do enjoy them), but I think Islam isn't subject to enough debate/discussion/criticism here on gamespot or an many other forums as well. People seem extra sensitive on the topic of Islam. there are some questions I would like to pose

1) Why is the criticism of Islam more taboo than the criticism of, say, Christianity?

2) Do you think that Islam receives too many free passes and too much preferential treatment?

3) Do you think criticising Islam is too widely labeled as "politically incorrect" or "offensive?"

4) why are many people still hesitant to even talk about Islam?

5) Do you think that much of criticism levied at Islam is justified/valid?

Trust me, islam certainly does get its share of criticism on this forum. However, I suspect that since christianity is more common in most of the countries that people post from here, they feel more comfortable in criticizing it.

You should have been here 3 months ago.There were topics criticizing and demonising Islam almost every hour.conistant

was it during the weeks surrounding "draw muhammad day?"

Muslims aren't trying to legislate their religion on me. (I'm sure they would if they could though). wstfld

that entirely depends on where you live. There are nearly a dozen Islamic theocracies in the world (most of which mandate such policies as the stoning of adulterous women and the hanging of blasphemers and homosexuals. it is not an uncommon occurance). There are also extreme lobbyist and special interests groups in many European countries.

[QUOTE="wstfld"]Muslims aren't trying to legislate their religion on me. (I'm sure they would if they could though). arbitor365

that entirely depends on where you live. There are nearly a dozen Islamic theocracies in the world (most of which mandate such policies as the stoning of adulterous women and the hanging of blasphemers and homosexuals. it is not an uncommon occurance). There are also extreme lobbyist and special interests groups in many European countries.

preferential treatment? are you serious?lamprey263

well think about this. when was the last time the atheist/secular community got up and said "we should avoid offending christians" or brushed aside Christianity's blatant intolerance nature towards homosexuals as "just an error in context." True, we do criticise Islam a great deal these days but there is a sizable chunk of our community that defends Islam (even when criticism is legitimate) or takes great measures to be inoffensive towards them and their beleifs (a luxury which they dont give to Christianity and one that neither religion truly deserves). Think of how many Atheists opposed draw Muhammad day or condemn any and all videos or articles that link the violence of fundamentalists to teachings in the Quran. Think of how many times you have heard atheists lob the term "islamophobe" at each other. You dont see such a division in the area of Christianity.

It does in some cases (due to a fear of getting death threats). Ultimately I'd say that criticizing Islam is a good thing as long as it's purely a theological issue. It will be done much more in the future.

I'd say it has a lot to do with political correctness and all.

Islam seems to get a lot of hate. I can't really reconcile that with preferential treatment.

Islam seems to get a lot of hate. I can't really reconcile that with preferential treatment.

coolbeans90

Well said.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Islam seems to get a lot of hate. I can't really reconcile that with preferential treatment.

chessmaster1989

Well said.

On a random note, I think a progressive consumption tax may be superior to a progressive income tax. Just a thought.

It is simply because people actually take Islam seriously. It is realistically the last major religion in the world which still actually functions as a religion...and people actually fanatically practice it.chandlerr_360

We seem to get our fair share of topics regarding Christianity (and I certainly do enjoy them), but I think Islam isn't subject to enough debate/discussion/criticism here on gamespot or an many other forums as well. People seem extra sensitive on the topic of Islam. there are some questions I would like to pose

1) Why is the criticism of Islam more taboo than the criticism of, say, Christianity?

2) Do you think that Islam receives too many free passes and too much preferential treatment?

3) Do you think criticising Islam is too widely labeled as "politically incorrect" or "offensive?"

4) why are many people still hesitant to even talk about Islam?

5) Do you think that much of criticism levied at Islam is justified/valid?

arbitor365

1.) Because Christians don't threaten to kill you for believing in anything other than Christianity.

2.) Yes (Edit: & no)

3.) Yes

4.) See #1

5.) Yes & No

[QUOTE="chandlerr_360"]It is simply because people actually take Islam seriously. It is realistically the last major religion in the world which still actually functions as a religion...and people actually fanatically practice it.th3warr1or

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="chandlerr_360"]It is simply because people actually take Islam seriously. It is realistically the last major religion in the world which still actually functions as a religion...and people actually fanatically practice it.chandlerr_360

What are you basing that statement on exactly?

[QUOTE="conistant"]You should have been here 3 months ago.There were topics criticizing and demonising Islam almost every hour.arbitor365

was it during the weeks surrounding "draw muhammad day?"

You make a very valid point. A very, very valid point. A very, very, very very very valid point. And I completely agree with you.

It is simply because people actually take Islam seriously. It is realistically the last major religion in the world which still actually functions as a religion...and people actually fanatically practice it.chandlerr_360

It's not discussed as much here, or in as much depth as christianity because not that many people on here are muslims or know anything about islam apart from what they see on the news I.E. ALLAHU SNACKBAR KEBABS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Draw Muhammad Day?

Protest against building a Mosque in NY?

Islam gets criticised everywhere so not sure what you on about.

All is explained here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNtDrUhcKyQ&playnext=1&list=PL11E066A8978F6539&index=15

I haven't noticed. But that doesn't mean it's not happening.

Trust me, islam certainly does get its share of criticism on this forum. However, I suspect that since christianity is more common in most of the countries that people post from here, they feel more comfortable in criticizing it.

sonicare

DING DING DING. We have a winnah, folks.

There does seem to be a double standard in some regards. dave123321

[QUOTE="dave123321"]There does seem to be a double standard in some regards. LJS9502_basic

I have seen that for Islam, though. And on this board.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="dave123321"]There does seem to be a double standard in some regards. Pixel-Pirate

I have seen that for Islam, though. And on this board.

ISLAM IS JUST ANOTHER RELIGION IN A WORLD FULL OF RELIGIONS! We need to stop looking at what people believe! Who cares! They believe in god just the same as christians, they just believe jesus was a prophet and not the messiah! They also believe in muhammed! WHO CARES!!! American's got all out of bent when some people from Islamic nations attacked us on 9/11...NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE LIKE THAT! I'm a christian and when I hear christians diss muslims for killing I bring up the CRUSADES!

yuppers

Of course. They make more demands because their religion is so strict. The whole halal meat thing gets on my nerves a lot. Just eat what you're given, and quit whining. It's like... yeah, we're going to make British restaurants 100% halal. That'll keep them happy. Well, no thanks.. I don't want that crap any more than they want non-halal meat. Sadly our preferences aren't priority, though.SolidSnake35

Seriously? I have yet to meet a person who whines about "halal" meat, but you certainly are the first. There are people who are strictly vegans, people who dont eat foods with "E471", foods with a hint of alcohol, or people who only eat certain meats. Muslims dont rant about resturants being 100% halal, so its not a problem in any shape of form. Many people have specifics of foods, its a reality, stop whining.

And as for Islam, many people who do not understand Islam always generalise to what happens in the press, i.e. terrorist bombing, harsh realities and so forth. Saudi Arabia laws are barbaric and quite contradictory. Prophet Muhammads wife used to work but women in saudi arent exactly allowed, whole bombing for the sake of islam is forbidden, and I can go on into long depths of the topic. If anything, Muslims dont look at scum like Usama Bin Laden as a form of leaders or role models. These people are labelled "Wahabis", and I bet 90% of this forum dont know squat about them. Islam is a very nice and peaceful religion, its certain people within it that are totally backwards, infact, its not the people within islam, you will get bad people in every possible sect known to man.

Considering the Ground Zero Mosque and Draw Mohammed Day posts I saw on these forums the past few months, I don't think Islam is getting a free ride.Danm_999

ISLAM IS JUST ANOTHER RELIGION IN A WORLD FULL OF RELIGIONS! We need to stop looking at what people believe! Who cares! They believe in god just the same as christians, they just believe jesus was a prophet and not the messiah! They also believe in muhammed! WHO CARES!!! American's got all out of bent when some people from Islamic nations attacked us on 9/11...NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE LIKE THAT! I'm a christian and when I hear christians diss muslims for killing I bring up the CRUSADES!

p-ryman

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

We seem to get our fair share of topics regarding Christianity (and I certainly do enjoy them), but I think Islam isn't subject to enough debate/discussion/criticism here on gamespot or an many other forums as well. People seem extra sensitive on the topic of Islam. there are some questions I would like to pose

1) Why is the criticism of Islam more taboo than the criticism of, say, Christianity?

2) Do you think that Islam receives too many free passes and too much preferential treatment?

3) Do you think criticising Islam is too widely labeled as "politically incorrect" or "offensive?"

4) why are many people still hesitant to even talk about Islam?

5) Do you think that much of criticism levied at Islam is justified/valid?

KH-mixerX

1.) Because Christians don't threaten to kill you for believing in anything other than Christianity.

2.) Yes (Edit: & no)

3.) Yes

4.) See #1

5.) Yes & No

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]Of course. They make more demands because their religion is so strict. The whole halal meat thing gets on my nerves a lot. Just eat what you're given, and quit whining. It's like... yeah, we're going to make British restaurants 100% halal. That'll keep them happy. Well, no thanks.. I don't want that crap any more than they want non-halal meat. Sadly our preferences aren't priority, though.Disturbed123

Seriously? I have yet to meet a person who whines about "halal" meat, but you certainly are the first. There are people who are strictly vegans, people who dont eat foods with "E471", foods with a hint of alcohol, or people who only eat certain meats. Muslims dont rant about resturants being 100% halal, so its not a problem in any shape of form. Many people have specifics of foods, its a reality, stop whining.

And as for Islam, many people who do not understand Islam always generalise to what happens in the press, i.e. terrorist bombing, harsh realities and so forth. Saudi Arabia laws are barbaric and quite contradictory. Prophet Muhammads wife used to work but women in saudi arent exactly allowed, whole bombing for the sake of islam is forbidden, and I can go on into long depths of the topic. If anything, Muslims dont look at scum like Usama Bin Laden as a form of leaders or role models. These people are labelled "Wahabis", and I bet 90% of this forum dont know squat about them. Islam is a very nice and peaceful religion, its certain people within it that are totally backwards, infact, its not the people within islam, you will get bad people in every possible sect known to man.

Muslims aren't trying to legislate their religion on me. (I'm sure they would if they could though). wstfld