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This.Yes...just seems so unnecessary.
I would hateto live in a place where I had to call every-one by ______ American (German, Mexican, French, English, etc)
-it is wrong most of the time to call someone a _____ American
-we don't call white people from Africa 'African-Americans'
-seems divisive (we are all just American now)rawsavon
There are many different people of different skin colors in Africa, be it olive, black, white or brown (those from Egypt have brown skin mind you). I have known blacks from Africa and they despise Americans using the term African-American. If you were born on US soil, you are an American no matter your skin color. If you have immigrated to the US from a different country and have become a naturalized citizen (sworn allegience to the US by taking the oath), then one can call oneself -American.
I call blacks black, white's white and Asians Asian not yellow. What is worse is civil rights leaders who fought for black equality still find it necessary to hold seperate black events and use the term African-American. Way to show that you really want to be treated equal.
[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]But blacks (or chocolate americans as some want to be called) who have never been to America or Africa are called African-Americans. I don't consider myself a German-British-Russian-Polish-Prussian-Israeli American, I consider myself an American.An African American is an American who's "roots" are in Africa, just like an Asian American is an American who's "roots" are in Asia. What's so complicated about that?
Eleckidding
Obviously, but for the discussions around race you have to be able to describe race or origin.
YES! It bothers me a lot. I'm sick of people calling themselves hyphenated Americans. What is wrong with just being American?
Asian-American
Mexican-American
African-American
etc.
They are all ridiculous. If you are African, you are African. If you are American, you are American. If you happen to have dual citizenship, then you are both, but other than that you aren't.
YES! It bothers me a lot. I'm sick of people calling themselves hyphenated Americans. What is wrong with just being American?
Asian-American
Mexican-American
African-American
etc.
They are all ridiculous. If you are African, you are African. If you are American, you are American. If you happen to have dual citizenship, then you are both, but other than that you aren't.
It's a description of race, not nationality.[QUOTE="Anti-Venom"]Heck yea, I hate it...Bloodseeker23Same here, why not just say American... Because races need separation sometime. For example, are you aware that blacks/African Americans are more susceptible to sickle cell anemia than most other races? Likewise, whites/caucasions have lower levels of melanin in their skin than blacks/African Americans. If race can't be used as a descriptor, how would I write up a scientific article detailing such findings?
Yeah, I black (Technically mixed) and I hate the phrase to death.MythomniacWhat do you, personally, prefer? It seems many people have a different preference which is a bit of a problem because no matter what phrase you use you're bound to offend someone at some point.
[QUOTE="JadeNic"]It's a description of race, not nationality.YES! It bothers me a lot. I'm sick of people calling themselves hyphenated Americans. What is wrong with just being American?
Asian-American
Mexican-American
African-American
etc.
They are all ridiculous. If you are African, you are African. If you are American, you are American. If you happen to have dual citizenship, then you are both, but other than that you aren't.
mattbbpl
African-American IS NOT a race. It is a title given to an American of African decent...
It doesn't make sense when referring to people such as Martin Luther King who wasn't born in Africa, and makes even less sense when referring to Africans. Is a black man who is born in England an African-American? Is a black man who has never been outside Africa an African-American? I just think the term is incredibly stupid, I'm not trying to offend anyone.Eleckidding
Is a black man who is born in England an African-American?
He'd be an Afro/Anglo-American.
Is a black man who has never been outside Africa an African-American?
What? Of course not.
[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="JadeNic"]
YES! It bothers me a lot. I'm sick of people calling themselves hyphenated Americans. What is wrong with just being American?
Asian-American
Mexican-American
African-American
etc.
They are all ridiculous. If you are African, you are African. If you are American, you are American. If you happen to have dual citizenship, then you are both, but other than that you aren't.
It's a description of race, not nationality.African-American IS NOT a race. It is a title given to an American of African decent...
I'm aware of that fact, but it's unintuitively applied as a race in the US because people began to take offense to every other term for the race. Now this one is beginning to be viewed as offensive as well, so we'll probably have to phase in another term or go back to the term black which only the minority seems to find offensive.Yeah it's stupid since black people come from other places besides Africa namely the West and East IndiesToriko42But even those guys are from Africa. African-American is pretty much a semi-attempt to attach blacks in America to some type of culture, because most of them can't find out what country, tribe, ethnic group their ancestors are from before they were loaded on the slave ships.
[QUOTE="Toriko42"]Yeah it's stupid since black people come from other places besides Africa namely the West and East IndiesSgtKevali
And where did they originate from?
We all originated from Africa, are we all African Americans?The Japanese and Koreans came from China and Japan respectively, are they not Korean and Japanese or are they generally considered Chinese?
C'mon y'all...
I guess on a personal level I just hate that African-American is considered synonomous with black in the U.S.
I was born in South Africa. When I was 14 I moved and became a citizen of the United States. That would technically make me an African-American. But I'm white.
You know that's what the U.S. government classifies you as? It's like that story a couple of years ago. That black guy from the middle east, he wanted to be black on some type of record but the government put him down as caucasian due to the country he was born in.I guess on a personal level I just hate that African-American is considered synonomous with black in the U.S.
I was born in South Africa. When I was 14 I moved and became a citizen of the United States. That would technically make me an African-American. But I'm white.
JadeNic
I hate the fact that 25 years from now I won't be using African-American as a term for black people.
Just like negro, just like colored, and just like black... African-American is going to eventually have a negative stigma to it, and black people will want to be called something else.
Really what the black community needs to do is stop being a bunch of wimps and man up. I mean how many racial slurs stick to white people??? why cause they adopt it right away, and don't let it bother em. Call em honkies, crackers, rednecks, gaijin, farang, or gringo they'll wear it w/ pride.
I just absolutely stopped saying anything that may note a person's skin color. No matter what you say it can and perhaps will be interpreted as racist. Stupid people, demonizing freaking everything....Pyro767More people are likely to be offended by the term African American than Black...
[QUOTE="Pyro767"]I just absolutely stopped saying anything that may note a person's skin color. No matter what you say it can and perhaps will be interpreted as racist. Stupid people, demonizing freaking everything....Toriko42More people are likely to be offended by the term African American than Black...Yeah, but when it comes to the things I see everyone is offended by everything. That's why I'm just giving up and referring to everyone as "people" in public.
Most of those terms you created originated from whites. Redneck/Cracker both came from whites. And even honky came from white writers in the 70s, who thought it would be a funny slang term for their black characters to use against whites.I hate the fact that 25 years from now I won't be using African-American as a term for black people.
Just like negro, just like colored, and just like black... African-American is going to eventually have a negative stigma to it, and black people will want to be called something else.
Really what the black community needs to do is stop being a bunch of wimps and man up. I mean how many racial slurs stick to white people??? why cause they adopt it right away, and don't let it bother em. Call em honkies, crackers, rednecks, gaijin, farang, or gringo they'll wear it w/ pride.
jrhawk42
It doesn't make sense when referring to people such as Martin Luther King who wasn't born in Africa, and makes even less sense when referring to Africans. Is a black man who is born in England an African-American? Is a black man who has never been outside Africa an African-American? I just think the term is incredibly stupid, I'm not trying to offend anyone.Eleckidding
I don't refer to them as that.I say call us all americans.The funny thing is that even though we fight with each other all the time when the need comes to pull together we sure can do it mighty fast LOL! Then we go back to fighting with each other.See thats why we are so good at war!
Not exactly. It annoys me if people think it's offensive to use any term except that. I say black. It's more accurate, shorter word, and I'm used to it.
It's all divide and conquer...I second the no hyphens comments! People are people regardless of race.
One America, one people :P
Yup. I hate it when members from my various family branches refer to themselves as "Jewish-Americans/Canadians" and "Native Americans/indians/First Nations." I just want to be Canadian, not be distinguished by where my ancestors came from and what cultures they belonged to.
[QUOTE="optiow"]I do not think it is bad. It is better than some other names, as I feel offensive when I call others their colour, eg, Black people, or Brown people. BPoole96
Do you find it offensive to call caucasians white?
This has always been a weak argument. No group of people stumble upon Caucasians and decided "From now on you people will be called white", Europeans/Caucasians started calling themselves "white" and embraced the term.I'm hispanic and I notice the fact most Hispanics(and Indians/Arab) embraced the term "brown" and decide that they would call themselves brown people.
But, Africans never decided to be "black" people, the were told by their uppers that they were "black" people. It's the same with calling Native Americans "Red" people or calling Asians "Yellow" people, the only difference is "red" and "yellow" died out decades ago from mainstream use, while "black" is still a pretty mainstream term.
[QUOTE="BPoole96"]Do you find it offensive to call caucasians white?optiowNot really, as I am white and I do not take offense.
I'm white as well and I have actually been corrected in the past when I've used the term African American. Certainly there are African Americans, but I don't see why a black person who was born in the US should be referred to as that. Their nationality is simply American
This has always been a weak argument. No group of people stumble upon Caucasians and decided "From now on you people will be called white", Europeans/Caucasians started calling themselves "white" and embraced the term.
I'm hispanic and I notice the fact most Hispanics(and Indians/Arab) embraced the term "brown" and decide that they would call themselves brown people.
But, Africans never decided to be "black" people, the were told by their uppers that they were "black" people. It's the same with calling Native Americans "Red" people or calling Asians "Yellow" people, the only difference is "red" and "yellow" died out decades ago from mainstream use, while "black" is still a pretty mainstream term.
the_new_guy_92
But why is it offensive to be called "black"? It is just a fact. I guess I don't really understand.
It is not like it is being used as a derogatory term.
African-American just doesn't make sense.
I'm white as well and I have actually been corrected in the past when I've used the term African American. Certainly there are African Americans, but I don't see why a black person who was born in the US should be referred to as that. Their nationality is simply AmericanBPoole96I agree. However, some insist on being called their colour, and some hate it. It is very confusing a lot of the time.
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