Does the term African-American annoy you?

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#101 btaylor2404
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I personally don't have a problem with it, whatever my black/African-American friends prefer is fine by me.
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#102 Shad0ki11
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I think "Black American" is much more fitting. "African American" makes it sound like they just immigrated from some country in Africa.

I'm Caucasian and my heritage is Irish and German, so would that make me a European American?

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#103 mattbbpl
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What annoys me is that this is given so much thought and energy. We just keep switching PC terms, marking the old ones as offensive and creating new ones that will one day be considered offensive themselves. Just tell me what you want your race to be referred to as, and I'll gladly oblige.
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#104 WhiteKnight77
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Yes...just seems so unnecessary.

I would hateto live in a place where I had to call every-one by ______ American (German, Mexican, French, English, etc)
-it is wrong most of the time to call someone a _____ American
-we don't call white people from Africa 'African-Americans'
-seems divisive (we are all just American now)

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This.

There are many different people of different skin colors in Africa, be it olive, black, white or brown (those from Egypt have brown skin mind you). I have known blacks from Africa and they despise Americans using the term African-American. If you were born on US soil, you are an American no matter your skin color. If you have immigrated to the US from a different country and have become a naturalized citizen (sworn allegience to the US by taking the oath), then one can call oneself -American.

I call blacks black, white's white and Asians Asian not yellow. What is worse is civil rights leaders who fought for black equality still find it necessary to hold seperate black events and use the term African-American. Way to show that you really want to be treated equal.

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#105 EMOEVOLUTION
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No, it doesn't really bother me. It makes sense. You could call me a European American if you wanted too. I wouldn't really care.
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#106 SgtKevali
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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

An African American is an American who's "roots" are in Africa, just like an Asian American is an American who's "roots" are in Asia. What's so complicated about that?

Eleckidding

But blacks (or chocolate americans as some want to be called) who have never been to America or Africa are called African-Americans. I don't consider myself a German-British-Russian-Polish-Prussian-Israeli American, I consider myself an American.

Obviously, but for the discussions around race you have to be able to describe race or origin.

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#107 scorch-62
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I don't see a problem with it.
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#108 poptart
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If it's developing some negative connotations then understandably people will take offense. If it isn't, then well I'm sure there are far grater things to worry about in this world…

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#109 JadeNic
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YES! It bothers me a lot. I'm sick of people calling themselves hyphenated Americans. What is wrong with just being American?

Asian-American

Mexican-American

African-American

etc.

They are all ridiculous. If you are African, you are African. If you are American, you are American. If you happen to have dual citizenship, then you are both, but other than that you aren't.

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#110 The_AI
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I just say "black".

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#111 Bloodseeker23
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Hell yea, I hate it...Anti-Venom
Same here, why not just say American...
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#112 mattbbpl
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[QUOTE="JadeNic"]

YES! It bothers me a lot. I'm sick of people calling themselves hyphenated Americans. What is wrong with just being American?

Asian-American

Mexican-American

African-American

etc.

They are all ridiculous. If you are African, you are African. If you are American, you are American. If you happen to have dual citizenship, then you are both, but other than that you aren't.

It's a description of race, not nationality.
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#113 mattbbpl
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[QUOTE="Anti-Venom"]Heck yea, I hate it...Bloodseeker23
Same here, why not just say American...

Because races need separation sometime. For example, are you aware that blacks/African Americans are more susceptible to sickle cell anemia than most other races? Likewise, whites/caucasions have lower levels of melanin in their skin than blacks/African Americans. If race can't be used as a descriptor, how would I write up a scientific article detailing such findings?
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#114 Mythomniac
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Yeah, I black (Technically mixed) and I hate the phrase to death.
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#115 mattbbpl
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Yeah, I black (Technically mixed) and I hate the phrase to death.Mythomniac
What do you, personally, prefer? It seems many people have a different preference which is a bit of a problem because no matter what phrase you use you're bound to offend someone at some point.
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#116 Toriko42
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Yeah it's stupid since black people come from other places besides Africa namely the West and East Indies
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#117 JadeNic
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[QUOTE="JadeNic"]

YES! It bothers me a lot. I'm sick of people calling themselves hyphenated Americans. What is wrong with just being American?

Asian-American

Mexican-American

African-American

etc.

They are all ridiculous. If you are African, you are African. If you are American, you are American. If you happen to have dual citizenship, then you are both, but other than that you aren't.

mattbbpl

It's a description of race, not nationality.

African-American IS NOT a race. It is a title given to an American of African decent...

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#118 Snipes_2
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Yes, So Does European American, Asian American, Candian American, Mexican American etc.. You move to America, you're an American.

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#119 narog84
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i dont like it , if you call European Americanto the others then maybe

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#120 Phaze-Two
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It doesn't make sense when referring to people such as Martin Luther King who wasn't born in Africa, and makes even less sense when referring to Africans. Is a black man who is born in England an African-American? Is a black man who has never been outside Africa an African-American? I just think the term is incredibly stupid, I'm not trying to offend anyone.Eleckidding

Is a black man who is born in England an African-American?

He'd be an Afro/Anglo-American.

Is a black man who has never been outside Africa an African-American?

What? Of course not.

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#121 mattbbpl
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[QUOTE="JadeNic"]

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="JadeNic"]

YES! It bothers me a lot. I'm sick of people calling themselves hyphenated Americans. What is wrong with just being American?

Asian-American

Mexican-American

African-American

etc.

They are all ridiculous. If you are African, you are African. If you are American, you are American. If you happen to have dual citizenship, then you are both, but other than that you aren't.

It's a description of race, not nationality.

African-American IS NOT a race. It is a title given to an American of African decent...

I'm aware of that fact, but it's unintuitively applied as a race in the US because people began to take offense to every other term for the race. Now this one is beginning to be viewed as offensive as well, so we'll probably have to phase in another term or go back to the term black which only the minority seems to find offensive.
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#122 the_new_guy_92
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Yeah it's stupid since black people come from other places besides Africa namely the West and East IndiesToriko42
But even those guys are from Africa. African-American is pretty much a semi-attempt to attach blacks in America to some type of culture, because most of them can't find out what country, tribe, ethnic group their ancestors are from before they were loaded on the slave ships.
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#123 SgtKevali
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Yeah it's stupid since black people come from other places besides Africa namely the West and East IndiesToriko42

And where did they originate from?

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#124 Toriko42
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"]Yeah it's stupid since black people come from other places besides Africa namely the West and East IndiesSgtKevali

And where did they originate from?

We all originated from Africa, are we all African Americans?

The Japanese and Koreans came from China and Japan respectively, are they not Korean and Japanese or are they generally considered Chinese?

C'mon y'all...

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#125 JadeNic
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I guess on a personal level I just hate that African-American is considered synonomous with black in the U.S.

I was born in South Africa. When I was 14 I moved and became a citizen of the United States. That would technically make me an African-American. But I'm white.

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#126 the_new_guy_92
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I guess on a personal level I just hate that African-American is considered synonomous with black in the U.S.

I was born in South Africa. When I was 14 I moved and became a citizen of the United States. That would technically make me an African-American. But I'm white.

JadeNic
You know that's what the U.S. government classifies you as? It's like that story a couple of years ago. That black guy from the middle east, he wanted to be black on some type of record but the government put him down as caucasian due to the country he was born in.
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#127 jrhawk42
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I hate the fact that 25 years from now I won't be using African-American as a term for black people.

Just like negro, just like colored, and just like black... African-American is going to eventually have a negative stigma to it, and black people will want to be called something else.

Really what the black community needs to do is stop being a bunch of wimps and man up. I mean how many racial slurs stick to white people??? why cause they adopt it right away, and don't let it bother em. Call em honkies, crackers, rednecks, gaijin, farang, or gringo they'll wear it w/ pride.

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#129 MrLions
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I just call the person black and they just call me yellow everyones happy.
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#130 Pyro767
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I just absolutely stopped saying anything that may note a person's skin color. No matter what you say it can and perhaps will be interpreted as racist. Stupid people, demonizing freaking everything....
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#131 Toriko42
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I just absolutely stopped saying anything that may note a person's skin color. No matter what you say it can and perhaps will be interpreted as racist. Stupid people, demonizing freaking everything....Pyro767
More people are likely to be offended by the term African American than Black...
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#132 Pyro767
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[QUOTE="Pyro767"]I just absolutely stopped saying anything that may note a person's skin color. No matter what you say it can and perhaps will be interpreted as racist. Stupid people, demonizing freaking everything....Toriko42
More people are likely to be offended by the term African American than Black...

Yeah, but when it comes to the things I see everyone is offended by everything. That's why I'm just giving up and referring to everyone as "people" in public.
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#133 the_new_guy_92
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I hate the fact that 25 years from now I won't be using African-American as a term for black people.

Just like negro, just like colored, and just like black... African-American is going to eventually have a negative stigma to it, and black people will want to be called something else.

Really what the black community needs to do is stop being a bunch of wimps and man up. I mean how many racial slurs stick to white people??? why cause they adopt it right away, and don't let it bother em. Call em honkies, crackers, rednecks, gaijin, farang, or gringo they'll wear it w/ pride.

jrhawk42
Most of those terms you created originated from whites. Redneck/Cracker both came from whites. And even honky came from white writers in the 70s, who thought it would be a funny slang term for their black characters to use against whites.
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#134 fubbal
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It doesn't make sense when referring to people such as Martin Luther King who wasn't born in Africa, and makes even less sense when referring to Africans. Is a black man who is born in England an African-American? Is a black man who has never been outside Africa an African-American? I just think the term is incredibly stupid, I'm not trying to offend anyone.Eleckidding

I don't refer to them as that.I say call us all americans.The funny thing is that even though we fight with each other all the time when the need comes to pull together we sure can do it mighty fast LOL! Then we go back to fighting with each other.See thats why we are so good at war!

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#135 MigsPlusEight
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I know it annoys some, but I don't really care about this term ...
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#136 Pixel-Pirate
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Not exactly. It annoys me if people think it's offensive to use any term except that. I say black. It's more accurate, shorter word, and I'm used to it.

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#137 Ultimas_Blade
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It's all divide and conquer...I second the no hyphens comments! People are people regardless of race.

One America, one people :P

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#138 optiow
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I do not think it is bad. It is better than some other names, as I feel offensive when I call others their colour, eg, Black people, or Brown people.
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#139 BPoole96
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I have actually noticed a lot of 'African Americans' preferring to be called black. I mean there are blacks from countries like Jamaica, Trinidad, France, etc. Why should they be called African American when they are clearly not?

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#140 BPoole96
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I do not think it is bad. It is better than some other names, as I feel offensive when I call others their colour, eg, Black people, or Brown people. optiow

Do you find it offensive to call caucasians white?

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#141 Solid_Snake325
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Yes I hate it.
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#142 optiow
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Do you find it offensive to call caucasians white?BPoole96
Not really, as I am white and I do not take offense.
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#143 Bobzfamily
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Yup. I hate it when members from my various family branches refer to themselves as "Jewish-Americans/Canadians" and "Native Americans/indians/First Nations." I just want to be Canadian, not be distinguished by where my ancestors came from and what cultures they belonged to.

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#144 hoola
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...Well, you need to describe their skin color somehow. I just call them black, and i call myself white. There is nothing wrong with that.

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[QUOTE="optiow"]I do not think it is bad. It is better than some other names, as I feel offensive when I call others their colour, eg, Black people, or Brown people. BPoole96

Do you find it offensive to call caucasians white?

This has always been a weak argument. No group of people stumble upon Caucasians and decided "From now on you people will be called white", Europeans/Caucasians started calling themselves "white" and embraced the term.

I'm hispanic and I notice the fact most Hispanics(and Indians/Arab) embraced the term "brown" and decide that they would call themselves brown people.

But, Africans never decided to be "black" people, the were told by their uppers that they were "black" people. It's the same with calling Native Americans "Red" people or calling Asians "Yellow" people, the only difference is "red" and "yellow" died out decades ago from mainstream use, while "black" is still a pretty mainstream term.

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#146 Good-Apollo
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Usually it's going to be idiotic left-leaning whites who kick up any fuss over the terms.
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]Do you find it offensive to call caucasians white?optiow
Not really, as I am white and I do not take offense.

I'm white as well and I have actually been corrected in the past when I've used the term African American. Certainly there are African Americans, but I don't see why a black person who was born in the US should be referred to as that. Their nationality is simply American

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#148 JadeNic
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This has always been a weak argument. No group of people stumble upon Caucasians and decided "From now on you people will be called white", Europeans/Caucasians started calling themselves "white" and embraced the term.

I'm hispanic and I notice the fact most Hispanics(and Indians/Arab) embraced the term "brown" and decide that they would call themselves brown people.

But, Africans never decided to be "black" people, the were told by their uppers that they were "black" people. It's the same with calling Native Americans "Red" people or calling Asians "Yellow" people, the only difference is "red" and "yellow" died out decades ago from mainstream use, while "black" is still a pretty mainstream term.

the_new_guy_92

But why is it offensive to be called "black"? It is just a fact. I guess I don't really understand.

It is not like it is being used as a derogatory term.

African-American just doesn't make sense.

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#149 optiow
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I'm white as well and I have actually been corrected in the past when I've used the term African American. Certainly there are African Americans, but I don't see why a black person who was born in the US should be referred to as that. Their nationality is simply AmericanBPoole96
I agree. However, some insist on being called their colour, and some hate it. It is very confusing a lot of the time.
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#150 super_mario_128
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It does but being from Britain I never encounter it.