Doesn't weed encourage laziness and make people slow and dumb?

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#1 SonyNintendoFan
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At least, that's what's portrayed in the media. Is this true? should weed be legal?

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#2 konvikt_17
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No. however if your lazy to begin with, weeds just gonna make it worse.

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#3 redstorm72
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Personal experience would seem verify this (at least, the "laziness" part). Pot heads would tell me otherwise.

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#4 Yusuke420
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Michael Phelps, Michael Jordan, Wiz Kalifa, Snoop Dogg, Willie Nelson, etc all pretty much prove that to be false. Blame the person, not the plant!

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#5 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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This is just one study, but:

Teenage Marijuana Use May Hurt Future IQ

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#6 shadowkiller11
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Depends how much you smoke it and how long for, no matter what both sides are usually biased about this topic.
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#7 chrisrooR
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It definitely can eat at your motivation, especially if it's work you don't give a f*ck about before you smoke.
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#9 Yusuke420
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This is just one study, but:

Teenage Marijuana Use May Hurt Future IQ

jimkabrhel

I'd like to counter that single study with several promoting the medical benefits of marijuana

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#10 Fightingfan
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I remember reading something about how the constantly fluctuation of endorphins can lower brain activity -- which is where the "Stoners are dummies" stereotypes.
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#11 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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NO! joe rogan explained this on his podcast. theres 2 types of weed. one that makes you lazy and one that makes you more focused, kidJustSignedUp

And Joe Rogan is a sicentific expert on weed?

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#12 chrisrooR
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NO! joe rogan explained this on his podcast. theres 2 types of weed. one that makes you lazy and one that makes you more focused, kidJustSignedUp
Anything Joe Rogan says should be taken very lightly.
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#13 Jazz_Fan
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This is just one study, but:

Teenage Marijuana Use May Hurt Future IQ

jimkabrhel

I think at most that would imply marijuana is not good on the developing mind and not necessarily the effects from recreational use as a whole.

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#14 Yusuke420
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

This is just one study, but:

Teenage Marijuana Use May Hurt Future IQ

Jazz_Fan

I think at most that would imply marijuana is not good on the developing mind and not necessarily the effects from recreational use as a whole.

 Which is why legalization will place greater barriers in place to the youth then exist now. It is harder (not nessarily much harder, but harder nontheless) to get Tabacco and Alcohol then it is for young people to get marijuana. Regulation with not only but those barries in place, but have the effect of eliminating street level dealers which have no qualms about dealing to minors. 

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#15 worlock77
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It didn't make Carl Sagan lazy, slow or dumb.

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#16 Shadowchronicle
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No. however if your lazy to begin with, weeds just gonna make it worse.

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Yeah I'm with konvikt on this one. But in general people who aren't lazy don't take it to begin with. :lol:
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#17 theone86
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Personal experience would seem verify this (at least, the "laziness" part). Pot heads would tell me otherwise.

redstorm72

No more than video games make you lazy.  Yes, it is an alternative to work and yes it is fun and easy to lose hours on, but it doesn't make one lazy in itself.  Rather, people with little self-control get very easily lost in it, just as they do in video games.  I will say that my view of weed has changed a little since spending a whole semester with my current roommate, but he's got problems beyond weed.  Really it's just an escape for him because he can't face reality, and if it weren't weed it would be something else.  Also, it's illegal and he's still stoned 24/7 so what is prohibition doing besides making his dealer rich?  Furthermore, I think if he could go down to a coffee house or smoke shop to light up it would be a thousand times better than him just sitting in his room all day getting stoned.

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I wouldn't say it causes laziness but it does cause very poor life decisions for many people. I know more than a few people who I have come to with a good job opportunity yet they turn it down because smoking weed is a higher priority than stopping long enough to pass a drug screening. Despite what people say, marijuana seems to have a much higher dependency than alcohol even.
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#20 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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No.  But it does make people eat Cheetos.

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I wouldn't say it causes laziness but it does cause very poor life decisions for many people. I know more than a few people who I have come to with a good job opportunity yet they turn it down because smoking weed is a higher priority than stopping long enough to pass a drug screening. Despite what people say, marijuana seems to have a much higher dependency than alcohol even. Murderstyle75
Those are just weak people that wouldn't have done well on the job had they gotten it anyway. Using the plant as a scapegoat is such a poor excuse because marijuana has been proven to have no chemical dependancy associated with it. I learned in another thread that evidence based of your personal experiences is worthless so I won't go there. I will say that there are people that smoke weed everyday that hold down good jobs and it shouldn't be a barrier for legalization of a substances that has no known fatalities. 

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#22 LJS9502_basic
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Yes but don't expect honesty in this thread....
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#24 coolbeans90
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idk

that would take quite a few legit studies to answer

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#25 Rich3232
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This is just one study, but:

Teenage Marijuana Use May Hurt Future IQ

jimkabrhel
Yes, most people are aware that taking strong psychoactive drugs at a young age can lead to decreased mental capabilities hence why we want to legalize it so as to place age restrictions.
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#26 Yusuke420
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Yes but don't expect honesty in this thread....LJS9502_basic
There is zero proof of what you are saying. Over 100 million people in the US alone have smoked marijuana and if what you're saying is true the effects would be obvious. Clearly you have some sort of bias to have come to this false conclusion, so please share with us on how you obtained this opinion. 

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#27 moneymatterz
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I personally wouldn't mind using some of the dregs of society as guinea pigs to prove once and for all that recreational use can impact them negatively. We have too many people on the planet, so the the rest of us should approve of the potential that such an experiment may "clean house" a bit.

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#28 Rich3232
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I wouldn't say it causes laziness but it does cause very poor life decisions for many people. I know more than a few people who I have come to with a good job opportunity yet they turn it down because smoking weed is a higher priority than stopping long enough to pass a drug screening. Despite what people say, marijuana seems to have a much higher dependency than alcohol even. Murderstyle75
Sorry, but science says you're wrong.
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#29 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Yes but don't expect honesty in this thread....Yusuke420

There is zero proof of what you are saying. Over 100 million people in the US alone have smoked marijuana and if what you're saying is true the effects would be obvious. Clearly you have some sort of bias to have come to this false conclusion, so please share with us on how you obtained this opinion. 

I don't see any proof in that post of yours champ. So zero proof but your anecdotal evidence. Classic.:lol:
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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]I wouldn't say it causes laziness but it does cause very poor life decisions for many people. I know more than a few people who I have come to with a good job opportunity yet they turn it down because smoking weed is a higher priority than stopping long enough to pass a drug screening. Despite what people say, marijuana seems to have a much higher dependency than alcohol even. Rich3232
Sorry, but science says you're wrong.

Sorry, but common sense says you're a damn idiot.

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#31 Rich3232
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[QUOTE="Rich3232"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]I wouldn't say it causes laziness but it does cause very poor life decisions for many people. I know more than a few people who I have come to with a good job opportunity yet they turn it down because smoking weed is a higher priority than stopping long enough to pass a drug screening. Despite what people say, marijuana seems to have a much higher dependency than alcohol even. moneymatterz

Sorry, but science says you're wrong.

Sorry, but common sense says you're a damn idiot.

Define common sense, and explain why/how it is more valid than science?
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#32 the_bi99man
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No. however if your lazy to begin with, weeds just gonna make it worse.

konvikt_17

Nailed it.

Weed makes lazy, slow and dumb people even lazier, slower, and dumber.

If you're a motivated, sharp, and intelligent person, smokin some buds sometimes (even regularly) isn't going to change that.

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#33 Yusuke420
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[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Yes but don't expect honesty in this thread....LJS9502_basic

There is zero proof of what you are saying. Over 100 million people in the US alone have smoked marijuana and if what you're saying is true the effects would be obvious. Clearly you have some sort of bias to have come to this false conclusion, so please share with us on how you obtained this opinion. 

I don't see any proof in that post of yours champ. So zero proof but your anecdotal evidence. Classic.:lol:

While not proof that it doesn't cause those things (there is no proof one way or the other because the research can't be done) I do have proof of the amount of people in the US who have or currently do consume cannibus 

Link

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#34 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="Rich3232"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]I wouldn't say it causes laziness but it does cause very poor life decisions for many people. I know more than a few people who I have come to with a good job opportunity yet they turn it down because smoking weed is a higher priority than stopping long enough to pass a drug screening. Despite what people say, marijuana seems to have a much higher dependency than alcohol even. moneymatterz

Sorry, but science says you're wrong.

Sorry, but common sense says you're a damn idiot.

Using "common sense" to bolster an argument is tantamount to knocking all the pieces off the chess board and claiming victory. You really are a special kind of stupid, son. Pick up a book every now and then, and think before expressing your thoughts.

Have a good day. Now, fvck off and die.

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#35 Saturos3091
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Personal experience would seem verify this (at least, the "laziness" part). Pot heads would tell me otherwise.

redstorm72
Certain hybrids or indica strains might have such an effect but obviously other hybrids and sativa dominant strains tend to not affect people as such. Instead they tend to make one energetic and provoke fast thought processes. Anyone who says that it makes you "lazy" or "dumb" is ignorant.
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#36 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Rich3232"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]I wouldn't say it causes laziness but it does cause very poor life decisions for many people. I know more than a few people who I have come to with a good job opportunity yet they turn it down because smoking weed is a higher priority than stopping long enough to pass a drug screening. Despite what people say, marijuana seems to have a much higher dependency than alcohol even. moneymatterz

Sorry, but science says you're wrong.

Sorry, but common sense says you're a damn idiot.

Well this is fun.....
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#37 whiskeystrike
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Absolutely. Just look at the average OT poster.

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#38 coolbeans90
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So far, the only person who has posted anything worthwhile pertaining to the subject matter is Jim. Take notice, gentlemen.

edit: and Yasuke

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Depends on the person. I'm not really for or against it at this point in my life (I don't use it but hey if you wanna that' your perogative). As many othrs have said, if you really don't care about work or anything, weed will enhance it. It also depends on how much you use, from what I've seen. Every once in a while or during breaks from work or whatever really won't do much harm (unless you decide to drive, then it's a craps shot) but I knew someone who went to college, and failed with a .8 average because he was so focused on his next chance of gtting high rather than his classes. He's done a lot better at the school he currently attends (straight A's as I udnerstand it) but it goes to show that with the right individual it can make you slow, lazy and, yes, dumb in a certain way.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Yusuke420"] There is zero proof of what you are saying. Over 100 million people in the US alone have smoked marijuana and if what you're saying is true the effects would be obvious. Clearly you have some sort of bias to have come to this false conclusion, so please share with us on how you obtained this opinion. 

Yusuke420

I don't see any proof in that post of yours champ. So zero proof but your anecdotal evidence. Classic.:lol:

While not proof that it doesn't cause those things (there is no proof one way or the other because the research can't be done) I do have proof of the amount of people in the US who have or currently do consume cannibus 

 

And I foudd this.... there are certain statistics that do illustrate the correlation between marijuana use and lowered academic and professional success and accomplishments. Marijuana users are less likely to finish high school They get lower grades in high school and in college than do non smokers They perform lower on tests of intellectual capacity They self report a decreased ability to excel professionally Heavy marijuana users self report that their marijuana habit decreases their ability to perform complex work tasks well, to learn new tasks professionally and that their marijuana usage has hampered their upwards professional climb.

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No more than sitting on your ass all day watching TV. 

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[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I don't see any proof in that post of yours champ. So zero proof but your anecdotal evidence. Classic.:lol:LJS9502_basic

While not proof that it doesn't cause those things (there is no proof one way or the other because the research can't be done) I do have proof of the amount of people in the US who have or currently do consume cannibus 

 

And I foudd this.... there are certain statistics that do illustrate the correlation between marijuana use and lowered academic and professional success and accomplishments. Marijuana users are less likely to finish high school They get lower grades in high school and in college than do non smokers They perform lower on tests of intellectual capacity They self report a decreased ability to excel professionally Heavy marijuana users self report that their marijuana habit decreases their ability to perform complex work tasks well, to learn new tasks professionally and that their marijuana usage has hampered their upwards professional climb.

Where's the link?

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[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I don't see any proof in that post of yours champ. So zero proof but your anecdotal evidence. Classic.:lol:LJS9502_basic

While not proof that it doesn't cause those things (there is no proof one way or the other because the research can't be done) I do have proof of the amount of people in the US who have or currently do consume cannibus 

 

And I foudd this.... there are certain statistics that do illustrate the correlation between marijuana use and lowered academic and professional success and accomplishments. Marijuana users are less likely to finish high school They get lower grades in high school and in college than do non smokers They perform lower on tests of intellectual capacity They self report a decreased ability to excel professionally Heavy marijuana users self report that their marijuana habit decreases their ability to perform complex work tasks well, to learn new tasks professionally and that their marijuana usage has hampered their upwards professional climb.

I'm not saying that you're wrong as I've seen some studies that have said some of these things, but where did you get this?

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#44 Rich3232
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[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I don't see any proof in that post of yours champ. So zero proof but your anecdotal evidence. Classic.:lol:LJS9502_basic

While not proof that it doesn't cause those things (there is no proof one way or the other because the research can't be done) I do have proof of the amount of people in the US who have or currently do consume cannibus 

 

And I foudd this.... there are certain statistics that do illustrate the correlation between marijuana use and lowered academic and professional success and accomplishments. Marijuana users are less likely to finish high school They get lower grades in high school and in college than do non smokers They perform lower on tests of intellectual capacity They self report a decreased ability to excel professionally Heavy marijuana users self report that their marijuana habit decreases their ability to perform complex work tasks well, to learn new tasks professionally and that their marijuana usage has hampered their upwards professional climb.

It'd be nice if you had actually had links to most of these. And, ofc, any heavy drug use will affect everything. This applies to all drugs including alcohol and tobacco.
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#45 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"] While not proof that it doesn't cause those things (there is no proof one way or the other because the research can't be done) I do have proof of the amount of people in the US who have or currently do consume cannibus 

 

GreySeal9

And I foudd this.... there are certain statistics that do illustrate the correlation between marijuana use and lowered academic and professional success and accomplishments. Marijuana users are less likely to finish high school They get lower grades in high school and in college than do non smokers They perform lower on tests of intellectual capacity They self report a decreased ability to excel professionally Heavy marijuana users self report that their marijuana habit decreases their ability to perform complex work tasks well, to learn new tasks professionally and that their marijuana usage has hampered their upwards professional climb.

I'm not saying that you're wrong as I've seen some studies that have said some of these things, but where did you get this?

Oh you want that.... Demanding aren't you.:P
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#47 moneymatterz
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Absolutely. Just look at the average OT poster.

whiskeystrike

Bingo!

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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]And I foudd this.... there are certain statistics that do illustrate the correlation between marijuana use and lowered academic and professional success and accomplishments. Marijuana users are less likely to finish high school They get lower grades in high school and in college than do non smokers They perform lower on tests of intellectual capacity They self report a decreased ability to excel professionally Heavy marijuana users self report that their marijuana habit decreases their ability to perform complex work tasks well, to learn new tasks professionally and that their marijuana usage has hampered their upwards professional climb.

LJS9502_basic

I'm not saying that you're wrong as I've seen some studies that have said some of these things, but where did you get this?

Oh you want that.... Demanding aren't you.:P

"Amotivational syndrome, a collection of observable consequences of heavy marijuana use that includes apathy, lethargy, reduced concentration, lowered intelligence and a lack of desire to partake in meaningful activities of upwards mobility; has never been clinically proven as factual or real"
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#50 Yusuke420
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I'm not saying that you're wrong as I've seen some studies that have said some of these things, but where did you get this?

Rich3232

Oh you want that.... Demanding aren't you.:P

"Amotivational syndrome, a collection of observable consequences of heavy marijuana use that includes apathy, lethargy, reduced concentration, lowered intelligence and a lack of desire to partake in meaningful activities of upwards mobility; has never been clinically proven as factual or real"

Beat me to it lol