Dont you wish there was an all Atheist country??

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#51 bruinfan617
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="bruinfan617"]

There is, it's called Sweden.

Sweden had its own official church until just ten years ago. >_>

Is it called the First Bruce Springsteen Church?
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#52 FlipYapTheGrunt
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[QUOTE="forgot_it"]...Except it's blocks away from Ground Zero and a community center.jaydough

Yeah looks so far away huh?

That's kinda far away, bro.

At that radius the dust and dirt clouds still harmed people and, is only two blocks away from ground zero.

People don't show enough sympathy and repect to the innocents that died that day, and will let the ones we are at war at build a temple of sucess...show some freaking respect

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#53 FlipYapTheGrunt
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[QUOTE="forgot_it"]...Except it's blocks away from Ground Zero and a community center.Parandrus

Yeah looks so far away huh?

That does look kind of far...

Anyway, I don't think it would make much difference if a country was entirely atheist. There's always something to fight about.

Yeah but if you think about the sheer size of the buildings and explosion for that matter, it's a different story.

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[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="FlipYapTheGrunt"] Yeah looks so far away huh?

FlipYapTheGrunt

That's kinda far away, bro.

At that radius the dust and dirt clouds still harmed people and, is only two blocks away from ground zero.

People don't show enough sympathy and repect to the innocents that died that day, and will let the ones we are at war at build a temple of sucess...show some freaking respect

No, YOU show some freaking respect. Muslims died on 9/11 too, you know; with you acting like they're celebrating their victory with this mosque (something they aren't doing at all) you're essentially saying "YOUR losses aren't important!"

The human right to free religious expression trumps the want for a shallow and self-centered idea of "respect" any day.

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[QUOTE="Parandrus"]

[QUOTE="FlipYapTheGrunt"] Yeah looks so far away huh?

FlipYapTheGrunt

That does look kind of far...

Anyway, I don't think it would make much difference if a country was entirely atheist. There's always something to fight about.

Yeah but if you think about the sheer size of the buildings and explosion for that matter, it's a different story.

You can't even see the building from ground zero. :roll:
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[QUOTE="FlipYapTheGrunt"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"] That's kinda far away, bro.

Theokhoth

At that radius the dust and dirt clouds still harmed people and, is only two blocks away from ground zero.

People don't show enough sympathy and repect to the innocents that died that day, and will let the ones we are at war at build a temple of sucess...show some freaking respect

No, YOU show some freaking respect. Muslims died on 9/11 too, you know; with you acting like they're celebrating their victory with this mosque (something they aren't doing at all) you're essentially saying "YOUR losses aren't important!"

The human right to free religious expression trumps the want for a shallow and self-centered idea of "respect" any day.

You know some Muslims are against this....
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I'm no hater, but wtf are they doing building a mosque that close to where the twin towers used to be? Regardless of what their intentions are, these people building the mosque must realize that it's not fitting to build it that close to the site where terrorists killed thousands of people in the name of Islam. Common courtesy, man...
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[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="FlipYapTheGrunt"] Yeah looks so far away huh?

FlipYapTheGrunt

That's kinda far away, bro.

At that radius the dust and dirt clouds still harmed people and, is only two blocks away from ground zero.

People don't show enough sympathy and repect to the innocents that died that day, and will let the ones we are at war at build a temple of sucess...show some freaking respect

There are many families of the victims who are for the mosque. Besides, the only reason the GOP created the 9/11 Mosque debate is to distract/cover up their blockage of the 9/11 early responders bill. It's idiotic to say the least.

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[QUOTE="FlipYapTheGrunt"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="FlipYapTheGrunt"] Yeah looks so far away huh?

That's kinda far away, bro.

At that radius the dust and dirt clouds still harmed people and, is only two blocks away from ground zero.

People don't show enough sympathy and repect to the innocents that died that day, and will let the ones we are at war at build a temple of sucess...show some freaking respect

I wasn't aware we were at war with men who purchase private property.
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[QUOTE="FlipYapTheGrunt"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"] That's kinda far away, bro.

Theokhoth

At that radius the dust and dirt clouds still harmed people and, is only two blocks away from ground zero.

People don't show enough sympathy and repect to the innocents that died that day, and will let the ones we are at war at build a temple of sucess...show some freaking respect

No, YOU show some freaking respect. Muslims died on 9/11 too, you know; with you acting like they're celebrating their victory with this mosque (something they aren't doing at all) you're essentially saying "YOUR losses aren't important!"

The human right to free religious expression trumps the want for a shallow and self-centered idea of "respect" any day.

Only 64 muslims died in 911 ( god rest their souls ) A 15 story mosque looking down at the cemetery of Ground Zero in the location of a building partially destroyed in the 911 Islamic attack is wrong. It is indecent. The Burlington Building were they are builing the structure, is Ground Zero, for it was damaged in the attacks....Why the hell are we discussing a mosque in a atheist topic?

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="FlipYapTheGrunt"] At that radius the dust and dirt clouds still harmed people and, is only two blocks away from ground zero.

People don't show enough sympathy and repect to the innocents that died that day, and will let the ones we are at war at build a temple of sucess...show some freaking respectFlipYapTheGrunt

No, YOU show some freaking respect. Muslims died on 9/11 too, you know; with you acting like they're celebrating their victory with this mosque (something they aren't doing at all) you're essentially saying "YOUR losses aren't important!"

The human right to free religious expression trumps the want for a shallow and self-centered idea of "respect" any day.

Only 64 muslims died in 911 ( god rest their souls ) A 15 story mosque looking down at the cemetery of Ground Zero in the location of a building partially destroyed in the 911 Islamic attack is wrong. It is indecent. The Burlington Building were they are builing the structure, is Ground Zero, for it was damaged in the attacks....Why the hell are we discussing a mosque in a atheist topic?

Didn't you bring it up?
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I'm no hater, but wtf are they doing building a mosque that close to where the twin towers used to be? Regardless of what their intentions are, these people building the mosque must realize that it's not fitting to build it that close to the site where terrorists killed thousands of people in the name of Islam. Common courtesy, man...F1_2004
You are the smartest person in this topic *gives high five*

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[QUOTE="F1_2004"]I'm no hater, but wtf are they doing building a mosque that close to where the twin towers used to be? Regardless of what their intentions are, these people building the mosque must realize that it's not fitting to build it that close to the site where terrorists killed thousands of people in the name of Islam. Common courtesy, man...FlipYapTheGrunt

You are the smartest person in this topic *gives high five*

Isn't it interesting how we think the people who agree with us are the most intelligent?
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[QUOTE="FlipYapTheGrunt"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] No, YOU show some freaking respect. Muslims died on 9/11 too, you know; with you acting like they're celebrating their victory with this mosque (something they aren't doing at all) you're essentially saying "YOUR losses aren't important!"

The human right to free religious expression trumps the want for a shallow and self-centered idea of "respect" any day.

jaydough

Only 64 muslims died in 911 ( god rest their souls ) A 15 story mosque looking down at the cemetery of Ground Zero in the location of a building partially destroyed in the 911 Islamic attack is wrong. It is indecent. The Burlington Building were they are builing the structure, is Ground Zero, for it was damaged in the attacks....Why the hell are we discussing a mosque in a atheist topic?

Didn't you bring it up?

Did you even read the first freaking post? He mentioned the mosque more than anything!!!

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Lol, Good luck with that.

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[QUOTE="FlipYapTheGrunt"]

[QUOTE="F1_2004"]I'm no hater, but wtf are they doing building a mosque that close to where the twin towers used to be? Regardless of what their intentions are, these people building the mosque must realize that it's not fitting to build it that close to the site where terrorists killed thousands of people in the name of Islam. Common courtesy, man...jaydough

You are the smartest person in this topic *gives high five*

Isn't it interesting how we think the people who agree with us are the most intelligent?

You could be wrong though.

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[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="FlipYapTheGrunt"] Only 64 muslims died in 911 ( god rest their souls ) A 15 story mosque looking down at the cemetery of Ground Zero in the location of a building partially destroyed in the 911 Islamic attack is wrong. It is indecent. The Burlington Building were they are builing the structure, is Ground Zero, for it was damaged in the attacks....Why the hell are we discussing a mosque in a atheist topic?

FlipYapTheGrunt

Didn't you bring it up?

Did you even read the first freaking post? He mentioned the mosque more than anything!!!

He gave it as an example. We ignored it, you brought it up and were surprised we were talking about it.
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[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="FlipYapTheGrunt"] You are the smartest person in this topic *gives high five*

FlipYapTheGrunt

Isn't it interesting how we think the people who agree with us are the most intelligent?

You could be wrong though.

So could you.
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[QUOTE="FlipYapTheGrunt"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"] Isn't it interesting how we think the people who agree with us are the most intelligent?jaydough

You could be wrong though.

So could you.

Er...you realize he quoted your sig.
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[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="FlipYapTheGrunt"] You could be wrong though.

LJS9502_basic

So could you.

Er...you realize he quoted your sig.

You could be wrong, though.

Wait...

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[QUOTE="FlipYapTheGrunt"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"] Isn't it interesting how we think the people who agree with us are the most intelligent?jaydough

You could be wrong though.

So could you.

This arguing is pointless, we all have the right to our own opinion no matter how much we disagree with each other.

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[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="FlipYapTheGrunt"] You could be wrong though.

FlipYapTheGrunt

So could you.

This arguing is pointless, we all have the right to our own opinion no matter how much we disagree with each other.

It's not an argument, it's a discussion. It's pretty much what forums were made for.

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Don't really care either way. Though most atheists sort of piss me off, even though I sort of am one.

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[QUOTE="FlipYapTheGrunt"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"] So could you.jaydough

This arguing is pointless, we all have the right to our own opinion no matter how much we disagree with each other.

It's not an argument, it's a discussion. It's pretty much what forums were made for.

What ever it is lets put it aside, politics seperate countries, like Chuck Norris said "Americans should not judge each other and argue because of their political party, they should respect the fact that they both live in a free country."

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[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]after some consideration. I think this is a fabulous idea. Let's gather all the atheists to one spot then slaughter them.

Just like the good old days :)
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after some consideration. I think this is a fabulous idea. Let's gather all the atheists to one spot then slaughter them.EMOEVOLUTION
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No I have never had any religious problems in my life.

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Considering civilization is built upon religion, that's not likely to work out so well.

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[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="FlipYapTheGrunt"] This arguing is pointless, we all have the right to our own opinion no matter how much we disagree with each other.

FlipYapTheGrunt

It's not an argument, it's a discussion. It's pretty much what forums were made for.

What ever it is lets put it aside, politics seperate countries, like Chuck Norris said "Americans should not judge each other and argue because of their political party, they should respect the fact that they both live in a free country."

If you don't want to talk about politics, then don't talk about politics. It's as simple as that. As Keanu Reeves said, "Woah."
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Yeah looks so far away huh?FlipYapTheGrunt
It is relatively far. You also forgot to address the fact that it's a community center open to the public.

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My ideal "atheist" nation would still be secular, which means you'd get religious people living there after awhile. The only way to make a nation "all-atheist" is to criminalize theism of any kind, and I don't think that's really the kind of place you want to live in.

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That's a great idea. Then we could just bomb the **** out of it.
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I would probably move there.
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what would that change ? the religiouse people already dont have any hand over atheists.gubrushadow

:lol: By all means they do, a very strong hand in the states.

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[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]what would that change ? the religiouse people already dont have any hand over atheists.FrostyPhantasm

:lol: By all means they do, a very strong hand in the states.

That's not true.....:|
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It's called Norway. Even the priests are atheists.jaydough
That's not far from the truth, was a Gay parade here in the Capital some time ago. The religious demonstrators consisted of 3 people. xD
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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="gubrushadow"]what would that change ? the religiouse people already dont have any hand over atheists.LJS9502_basic

:lol: By all means they do, a very strong hand in the states.

That's not true.....:|

Aside from the constitution, most if not all the laws created are done so with strong influence from religious morals and views. For example, the largest reason against gay marriage in america is due to that of most religions frowning down upon it. Not to mention at this point in time it's impossible to get elected or even considered to be president unless you are Christian. Stronger examples can be seen in other countries albeit with a dash of zealotry and extreme positions which is kind of an unfair example.

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Imo human ignorrance will exist with or without religion.
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I'm hesitant to say that it would be a good idea because it's not like atheists are better friends and/or better citizens than theists. It would be nice to have something in common with every other citizen, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I would be better off there than in a nation with theists in it. Ultimately I would say no to your question.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="gubrushadow"]what would that change ? the religiouse people already dont have any hand over atheists.FrostyPhantasm

:lol: By all means they do, a very strong hand in the states.


That's not true.....:|

Aside from the constitution, most if not all the laws created are done so with strong influence from religious morals and views. For example, the largest reason against gay marriage in america is due to that of most religions frowning down upon it. Not to mention at this point in time it's impossible to get elected or even considered to be president unless you are Christian. Stronger examples can be seen in other countries albeit with a dash of zealotry and extreme positions which is kind of an unfair example.



Atheists certainly have a distinct disadvantage in US politics; I believe there's only ever been one open atheist congressman (Pete Stark), who came out after he retired.


Not to mention how Gallup Polls suggest the majority of Americans are less likely to vote for an atheist than a Catholic, Black, Jewish, female, Hispanic, Mormon, married for the third time, 72 year old, or homosexual candidate.

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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]
That's not true.....:|Danm_999

Aside from the constitution, most if not all the laws created are done so with strong influence from religious morals and views. For example, the largest reason against gay marriage in america is due to that of most religions frowning down upon it. Not to mention at this point in time it's impossible to get elected or even considered to be president unless you are Christian. Stronger examples can be seen in other countries albeit with a dash of zealotry and extreme positions which is kind of an unfair example.



Atheists certainly have a distinct disadvantage in US politics; I believe there's only ever been one open atheist congressman (Pete Stark), who came out after he retired.


Not to mention how Gallup Polls suggest the majority of Americans are less likely to vote for an atheist than a Catholic, Black, Jewish, female, Hispanic, Mormon, married for the third time, 72 year old, or homosexual candidate.

Pete Stark isn't retired.

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[QUOTE="Danm_999"]

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"]

Aside from the constitution, most if not all the laws created are done so with strong influence from religious morals and views. For example, the largest reason against gay marriage in america is due to that of most religions frowning down upon it. Not to mention at this point in time it's impossible to get elected or even considered to be president unless you are Christian. Stronger examples can be seen in other countries albeit with a dash of zealotry and extreme positions which is kind of an unfair example.

SgtKevali



Atheists certainly have a distinct disadvantage in US politics; I believe there's only ever been one open atheist congressman (Pete Stark), who came out after he retired.


Not to mention how Gallup Polls suggest the majority of Americans are less likely to vote for an atheist than a Catholic, Black, Jewish, female, Hispanic, Mormon, married for the third time, 72 year old, or homosexual candidate.

Pete Stark isn't retired.

I stand corrected. IIRC though, it was after he was elected that he announced his beliefs.

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#96 Link334
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Not really :(
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not really, but it would be cool. i might visit it :P

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or just live in the uk, where 99% of people couldnt care less

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Well now anyway. You did have a nasty civil war on the subject. :P
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#100 kingdre
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Atheists can be just as close-minded as religious people. It wouldn't make any difference.