Dr. Laura shuts down show after she says the N-WORD repeatedly.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/38748277/?gt1=43001

Wow. What happened to the first ammendment?

She does have the right to say whatever she likes..

She does have the right to say whatever she likes..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/38748277/?gt1=43001

Wow. What happened to the first ammendment?

GrandTheftDog

The first amendment applies only to the government. She has the right to say what she wants, and her employer has the right not to implicitly condone what she wants to say.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

She does have the right to say whatever she likes..

GrandTheftDog

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

She does have the right to say whatever she likes..

GrandTheftDog

[QUOTE="GrandTheftDog"]

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/38748277/?gt1=43001

Wow. What happened to the first ammendment?

GabuEx

The first amendment applies only to the government. She has the right to say what she wants, and her employer has the right not to implicitly condone what she wants to say.

Just because you have the "right" to something doesn't mean you aren't impervious to the criticism and consequences of using that right.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

She does have the right to say whatever she likes..

GrandTheftDog

I agree that black people are the cause of this word still being around (I mean why call each other a name that white slave owners gave you? :s) but the reason Americans are really uptight when it comes to discriminating against blacks is simply history. It's the same with Native Americans.

And im not trying to be racist here (Im black) I am just seeing it from a logical standpoint and offering a logical answer.

[QUOTE="GrandTheftDog"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

She does have the right to say whatever she likes..

Snipes_2

This is making the drawing assumption that all blacks say the N word in their community amongst one another.. That in it self is a stereotype, nor does organizations like NAACP accept the n word regardless who says it, black or white.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/38748277/?gt1=43001

Wow. What happened to the first ammendment?

GrandTheftDog

This has nothing to do with the first amendment...

And if you listen to the clip where she says it, I think her feelings about race are pretty clear.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/38748277/?gt1=43001

Wow. What happened to the first ammendment?

GrandTheftDog

[QUOTE="GrandTheftDog"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

She does have the right to say whatever she likes..

Espada12

I agree that black people are the cause of this word still being around (I mean why call each other a name that white slave owners gave you? :s) but the reason Americans are really uptight when it comes to discriminating against blacks is simply history. It's the same with Native Americans.

Yet again not all black people call one another that though, to make that a excuse is basing it on a stereotype of race.. That all black people call each other the n word...

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="GrandTheftDog"] Exaclty. It wasn't for racism it was for a philosophical point. Black people have blown the N-WORD out of proportions Now since they get mad at it white people use it against them. If it's anyones fault for the continous use of the N-WORD it is the african american community.sSubZerOo

This is making the drawing assumption that all blacks say the N word in their community amongst one another.. That in it self is a stereotype, nor does organizations like NAACP accept the n word regardless who says it, black or white.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="GrandTheftDog"] Exaclty. It wasn't for racism it was for a philosophical point. Black people have blown the N-WORD out of proportions Now since they get mad at it white people use it against them. If it's anyones fault for the continous use of the N-WORD it is the african american community.sSubZerOo

I agree that black people are the cause of this word still being around (I mean why call each other a name that white slave owners gave you? :s) but the reason Americans are really uptight when it comes to discriminating against blacks is simply history. It's the same with Native Americans.

Yet again not all black people call one another that though, to make that a excuse is basing it on a stereotype of race.. That all black people call each other the n word...

And im not trying to be racist here (Im black) I am just seeing it from a logical standpoint and offering a logical answer.

GrandTheftDog

[QUOTE="GrandTheftDog"]

And im not trying to be racist here (Im black) I am just seeing it from a logical standpoint and offering a logical answer.

TBoogy

[QUOTE="TBoogy"][QUOTE="GrandTheftDog"]

And im not trying to be racist here (Im black) I am just seeing it from a logical standpoint and offering a logical answer.

Xx_Hopeless_xX

This isn't a first ammendment issue like she says but there is obviously a double standard here. Also being offended by her use of the word is idiotic since she wasn't using it against anyone.

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]Fortunately I happened to obtain a transcript of how Dr. Laura's meeting with the network went down.... Dr. Laura: "You ****ers wouldn't dare fire me. You'd be violating my rights to say whatever the **** I want!" Network:"Dr." Laura, you absolutely have the right to say whatever hate filled racism that you want to spew, but you don't have a Constitutionally protected right to receive millions of dollars to say it. Dr. Laura: "You ****ers! You're a bunch of (derogatory word to describe African Americans) lovers!" Network: "That's kind of what we're getting at here. This isn't the Civil War era. When you say that word on the air, it makes us look bad, causes us sponsorship, and loses us a buttload more money than your rants bring in." Dr. Laura: "You're trying to silence dissenting voices!" Network: "We're totally not! If you want to go pay the fee to get a blog setup and work on getting a readership, we will absolutely leave you alone. We just won't pay you anymore." Dr. Laura: "Nazis!!!" [quote="First Amendment"] Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. GrandTheftDog

[QUOTE="TBoogy"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] What would he call blacks if he was black?..Blacks?...I mean..really...i don't think you can definitively state anything regarding his physical appearance over an online forum based on the words he uses..Xx_Hopeless_xX

The only thing that bother me about her rant is this part

"Black guys use it all the time. Turn on HBO and listen to a black comic, and all you hear is n****r, n****r, n****r. I don't get it. If anybody without enough melanin says it, it's a horrible thing. But when black people say it, it's affectionate. It's very confusing."

I hear that so much and I always think, do people actually believe that? I always assume people who think those type of things only interaction with blacks come through media.

I hear that so much and I always think, do people actually believe that? I always assume people who think that say those type of things only interaction with blacks come through media.

the_new_guy_92

The only thing that bother me about her rant is this part

"Black guys use it all the time. Turn on HBO and listen to a black comic, and all you hear is n****r, n****r, n****r. I don't get it. If anybody without enough melanin says it, it's a horrible thing. But when black people say it, it's affectionate. It's very confusing."

I hear that so much and I always think, do people actually believe that? I always assume people who think that say those type of things only interaction with blacks come through media.

the_new_guy_92

I'm not black so I can't say this definitively but it's hard not to get the impression that some black people reacted to this situation on autopilot. Anytime they hear that word they are supposed to be "offended". And while lots of African Americans treat the word the same regardless of the skin color of the person's mouth it comes out of, I think a lot are claiming to take offense due to the fact that Dr.Laura is white (the fact that she's neo-conservative doesn't hurt either).

As your fame/notoriety grows, your personal freedoms diminish ...such is the way of life here in the USrawsavon

This is the best thing said in this thread.

On-topic: There are SO many analogies that could be drawn between the argument a few conservatives in this thread are making and the argument many conservatives are making against the Islamic Cultural and Community Center (it is not a Mosque, you don't call a YMCA a Church do you??).

I'll make it easy for you:

Dr. Laura:N-word::Imam Rauf:Cordoba House

In NO way am I saying the Cordoba house is 'bad' like the n-word, however the argument made for Dr. Laura's right to the use of the N-word contradicts the argument against Imam Rauf'srightto build the Cordoba house.

The first amendment is so you aren't persecuted by the government, not by your employer or the public.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]As your fame/notoriety grows, your personal freedoms diminish ...such is the way of life here in the USUltimas_Blade

This is the best thing said in this thread.

On-topic: There are SO many analogies that could be drawn between the argument a few conservatives in this thread are making and the argument many conservatives are making against the Islamic Cultural and Community Center (it is not a Mosque, you don't call a YMCA a Church do you??).

I'll make it easy for you:

Dr. Laura:N-word::Imam Rauf:Cordoba House

In NO way am I saying the Cordoba house is 'bad' like the n-word, however the argument made for Dr. Laura's right to the use of the N-word contradicts the argument against Imam Rauf'srightto build the Cordoba house.

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"]

The only thing that bother me about her rant is this part

"Black guys use it all the time. Turn on HBO and listen to a black comic, and all you hear is n****r, n****r, n****r. I don't get it. If anybody without enough melanin says it, it's a horrible thing. But when black people say it, it's affectionate. It's very confusing."

I hear that so much and I always think, do people actually believe that? I always assume people who think that say those type of things only interaction with blacks come through media.

Xx_Hopeless_xX

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"]

The only thing that bother me about her rant is this part

"Black guys use it all the time. Turn on HBO and listen to a black comic, and all you hear is n****r, n****r, n****r. I don't get it. If anybody without enough melanin says it, it's a horrible thing. But when black people say it, it's affectionate. It's very confusing."

I hear that so much and I always think, do people actually believe that? I always assume people who think that say those type of things only interaction with blacks come through media.

the_new_guy_92

She said something the network didn't like, so the network fired her. It would only be a freedom of speech issue if she got arrested for saying it. The N word was the least offensive thing about her rant, imo. That lady called in asking for fairly legitimate help, but Laura just plugged her ears and said, "lalala you're a hypersensitive black just like the rest lalalala"

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]As your fame/notoriety grows, your personal freedoms diminish ...such is the way of life here in the USXx_Hopeless_xX

This is the best thing said in this thread.

On-topic: There are SO many analogies that could be drawn between the argument a few conservatives in this thread are making and the argument many conservatives are making against the Islamic Cultural and Community Center (it is not a Mosque, you don't call a YMCA a Church do you??).

I'll make it easy for you:

Dr. Laura:N-word::Imam Rauf:Cordoba House

In NO way am I saying the Cordoba house is 'bad' like the n-word, however the argument made for Dr. Laura's right to the use of the N-word contradicts the argument against Imam Rauf'srightto build the Cordoba house.

Now if only someone would fire Rush for all the ridiculous things he says, we'd be in business.

Also, just throwing this in.

Dr. Laura went on this rant in response to a caller complaining about her husband's friend using the N-Word in a derogatory toward blacks. Dr. Laura then in turn try to defend the actions of the caller's husband's friends, by saying well blacks call each other the N-Word(even though they don't use it as a derogative or insult).

Words are just word, but the meaning behind them is what counts. Using a term as a derogative =/= using a term as a sign of friendship