Dr. Laura shuts down show after she says the N-WORD repeatedly.

she's already admitted she was wrong. this broad's not the brightest of the bunch...

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[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

This is the best thing said in this thread.

On-topic: There are SO many analogies that could be drawn between the argument a few conservatives in this thread are making and the argument many conservatives are making against the Islamic Cultural and Community Center (it is not a Mosque, you don't call a YMCA a Church do you??).

I'll make it easy for you:

Dr. Laura:N-word::Imam Rauf:Cordoba House

In NO way am I saying the Cordoba house is 'bad' like the n-word, however the argument made for Dr. Laura's right to the use of the N-word contradicts the argument against Imam Rauf'srightto build the Cordoba house.

Ultimas_Blade

ouch. that sucks

Yet again not all black people call one another that though, to make that a excuse is basing it on a stereotype of race.. That all black people call each other the n word...

sSubZerOo

Oh I understand that but the term is used rather loosely amongst the blacks of my country and many others I'd assume. I won't deny that I don't use the term myself though it's never as a greeting (I'm black btw just to clarify that) it's more of an insult in my regard.

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I see a double Standard here, if she was making a point that's idiotic that she got fired.

Snipes_2

This is making the drawing assumption that all blacks say the N word in their community amongst one another.. That in it self is a stereotype, nor does organizations like NAACP accept the n word regardless who says it, black or white.

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This is making the drawing assumption that all blacks say the N word in their community amongst one another.. That in it self is a stereotype, nor does organizations like NAACP accept the n word regardless who says it, black or white.

Chris_Williams

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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] The thing you're missing is that no one ever stated he did not have the right to call it Cordoba...people question the choice of name..and this is wholly unrelated to the topic at hand..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

*sigh* You don't understand the analogy.

Rightof FreeSpeech:N-word::the right to build:Cordoba House -My argumentis about the RIGHT to do something, not about who said what.

Conservatives have argued that she has the right to say the n-word, so we should ignore it, whereas they also argue even though Imam Rauf has the right to build the Cordoba House, he shouldn't because it disrespects the nearby site of a tragedy.

What do you not get about that? My point is thatpeople shouldn't cite the Constitution in one situation and then say forgo the document in another. That's the very definition of hypocrisy.

This so-called Dr Laura is a liar.

She has been apparantly broadcsating for over 30 years and all of a sudden doesn't understand how this works? Its probably the most basic thing anyone new to the industry would learn in this day and age; when it comes to gender, disability and race - think before you speak.

Is anyone here claiming that Dr Laura wouldn't know this after all that experience? I hope not. I think she spouted her idiotic nonsense because she has been in the game for far too long and become arrogant with it. This arrogance has been shown before by her when talking about homosexuality. She is clearly either too arrogant or too predujiced to be defended except by other who share her views.

There is no arguement. Her rights to say what she wants doesn't have anything to do with the content of what she says and it is the content that is being examined.

She claims that she doesn't understand why black people can use the N word, yet white people cannot. Well if she is a Dr she has studied, maybe she ought to go back to school and not ask open and foolishly provocative questions, but find the answers to them. The answer is there for the asking. Its just that she may not like the answer. This is the case here on these boards when people ask a question about it, recieve and answer but are not satisfied because it doesn't fit with their own preconcieved opinion on the matter.

Dr Laura claiming she doesn't know the answer is lying plain and simple and for this reason, she has to go. Not only go, but be discreditied and exposed for what she is.

Good riddance

T

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[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"] How is it wholly unrelated? It exposes the hypocrisy of the arguments. There are cries of"Leave Laura alone!" and shouts of "Don't build the Mosque!" coming from the same voices. One argument calls for sense (in respect to the constitutional right of free speech) while the other calls for sensitivity (in respect to emotions about the 9/11 tragedy). Where is the cohesion?

Ultimas_Blade

*sigh* You don't understand the analogy.

Rightof FreeSpeech:N-word::the right to build:Cordoba House -My argumentis about the RIGHT to do something, not about who said what.

Conservatives have argued that she has the right to say the n-word, so we should ignore it, whereas they also argue even though Imam Rauf has the right to build the Cordoba House, he shouldn't because it disrespects the nearby site of a tragedy.

What do you not get about that? My point is thatpeople shouldn't cite the Constitution in one situation and then say forgo the document in another. That's the very definition of hypocrisy.

Alas, this thread is now getting de-railed..

This so-called Dr Laura is a liar.

She has been apparantly broadcsating for over 30 years and all of a sudden doesn't understand how this works? Its probably the most basic thing anyone new to the industry would learn in this day and age; when it comes to gender, disability and race - think before you speak.

Good riddance

T

spacedog1973

I raise you onehelen thomas!

lol i love how some white people are so thoroughly pissed that they can't use the n-word but black people can. IT'S SO UNFAIR!!! :roll:

First, not a first amendment issue.

Second, many black people have taken the n-word and turned it into a term of endearment among themselves. Blacks in America are not the first people to do this. Many, and I mean many, cultures and subcultures have taken once offensive words and begun using them amongst themselves, yet they remain offensive due to the overall connotation association with the word. For many of us, as I reiterate, it is a term of endearment. Its akin to friends call themselves names and expletives and no one taking offense, because you all are friends. The only difference is that the n-word is somewhat culturally accepted as now "our" word. That is why plenty of non-black people can use the word amongst there black friends. They have become one of "us". Its also the reason people still use it as a derogatory word, because they see themselves as not one of us.

Is the word still segregationist? Of course it is. It draws a line between "Us" and "Them". Is it culturally acceptable amongst blacks? You betcha. Can anyone get away with saying it? Nope. Not even all black people. Lots of us use it in a hostile manner.

This is how I feel about the N-word:

If all black people want to stop being called it, they need to police themselves, first.

I hear the word from black people at least 20 times a day. And that doesn't even count XBL.

This is how I feel about the N-word:

If all black people want to stop being called it, they need to police themselves, first.

I hear the word from black people at least 20 times a day. And that doesn't even count XBL.

airshocker

lol i love how some white people are so thoroughly pissed that they can't use the n-word but black people can. IT'S SO UNFAIR!!! :roll:

lazerface216

I hear the word from black people at least 20 times a day. And that doesn't even count XBL.

airshocker

dude, most of those are white kids lol....

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I hear the word from black people at least 20 times a day. And that doesn't even count XBL.

lazerface216

dude, most of those are white kids lol....

This is how I feel about the N-word:

If all black people want to stop being called it, they need to police themselves, first.

I hear the word from black people at least 20 times a day. And that doesn't even count XBL.

airshocker

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I hear the word from black people at least 20 times a day. And that doesn't even count XBL.

dude, most of those are white kids lol....

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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

I hear the word from black people at least 20 times a day. And that doesn't even count XBL.

Xx_Hopeless_xX

dude, most of those are white kids lol....

well, i guess we've had different experiences then.

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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

I hear the word from black people at least 20 times a day. And that doesn't even count XBL.

Xx_Hopeless_xX

dude, most of those are white kids lol....

I'm sure you hacked XBL so you can SEE who's playing on the other side. Accent is not reliable factor when determining ethnicity.

She's a racist and got what she deserved. I'm from Brooklyn and for the most part usually people who live in the "hood" or follow hip hop use it as a word for friend. I wont lie. I used it a lot growing up and occasionally when around certain people in certain hoods I use it occasionally. Not saying I'm proud of it, but there's a difference in how it's used. If a white person called me a ****a or any of my black friends this they'd probably just laugh and say whats up to him. Of coruse it depends who on who you are talkign to because some people are just insanely sensitive. Honestly I'd like to see an end to the word, but you will neevr see an end to a word if you segregate who gets to use it.

This is how I feel about the N-word:

If all black people want to stop being called it, they need to police themselves, first.

I hear the word from black people at least 20 times a day. And that doesn't even count XBL.

airshocker

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]

dude, most of those are white kids lol....

bruinfan617

With that said..i don't automatically assume the people using said word are black..

This is how I feel about the N-word:

If all black people want to stop being called it, they need to police themselves, first.

I hear the word from black people at least 20 times a day. And that doesn't even count XBL.

airshocker

Its interesting what you feel about the word's use, here is what I think about it:

Black people don't need to do anything to not being called it by white people. That's for white people without manners. For what normal and sane white person would think they can tell black people that they need to 'police themselves' or more or less they are... what? Deserving to be called the N word by white people? What kind of logic is that? Why in the world would a normal white person feel the need or think that they have a right to called a black person the n-word?

Dr Laura is supposed to be educated and experienced. She has less excuse to lack basic logic.

So, two friends can't call each other the N-Word as a term of friendship, because that then justifies somebody using the word as a derogatory term?the_new_guy_92

No, but they then shouldn't be upset when I use the word as freely as I want.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]

dude, most of those are white kids lol....

Ultimas_Blade

I'm sure you hacked XBL so you can SEE who's playing on the other side. Accent is not reliable factor when determining ethnicity.

Its interesting what you feel about the word's use, here is what I think about it:

Black people don't need to do anything to not being called it by white people. That's for white people without manners. For what normal and sane white person would think they can tell black people that they need to 'police themselves' or more or less they are... what? Deserving to be called the N word by white people? What kind of logic is that? Why in the world would a normal white person feel the need or think that they have a right to called a black person the n-word?

Dr Laura is supposed to be educated and experienced. She has less excuse to lack basic logic.

spacedog1973

Sure they do. If they stop using it, good-mannered white people will stop too.

Or they should just get used to the idea that no one really gives a **** about each other and will call them what they will.

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"]So, two friends can't call each other the N-Word as a term of friendship, because that then justifies somebody using the word as a derogatory term?airshocker

No, but they then shouldn't be upset when I use the word as freely as I want.

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"]So, two friends can't call each other the N-Word as a term of friendship, because that then justifies somebody using the word as a derogatory term?airshocker

No, but they then shouldn't be upset when I use the word as freely as I want.

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"]So, two friends can't call each other the N-Word as a term of friendship, because that then justifies somebody using the word as a derogatory term?airshocker

No, but they then shouldn't be upset when I use the word as freely as I want.

You would never use the word as freely as you want because you know what will happen. You are one of those 'on the internet people' who would never in reality back up the ludicrous statements you come out with. I say on the internet people, because on the internet is probably where you express these views, safely hidden behind a keyboard anonymously spouting nonsense.

Claps - Bravo.:|

white people generally do not use Ebonics>Xx_Hopeless_xX

First off, I hate the lady. When I was a kid, I was forced to listen to her whenever my mom was driving, and she is the most sexist you know what ever, but as much as I hate her, she didn't say anything that is wrong or untrue. Black people do say it whenever they want, though I'm pretty sure that wasn't what the caller was complaining about, which is a bit rude (which isn't anything I wouldn't expect from you know what) what she said is true.

They should be mad when someone uses the word to INSULT them? I thought that the point of a insult, to hurt the person that it's used against.?the_new_guy_92

Since when are you really hurt when someone insults you?

[QUOTE="spacedog1973"]

Its interesting what you feel about the word's use, here is what I think about it:

Black people don't need to do anything to not being called it by white people. That's for white people without manners. For what normal and sane white person would think they can tell black people that they need to 'police themselves' or more or less they are... what? Deserving to be called the N word by white people? What kind of logic is that? Why in the world would a normal white person feel the need or think that they have a right to called a black person the n-word?

Dr Laura is supposed to be educated and experienced. She has less excuse to lack basic logic.

airshocker

Sure they do. If they stop using it, good-mannered white people will stop too.

Or they should just get used to the idea that no one really gives a **** about each other and will call them what they will.

You give good mannered white people a bad name.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]white people generally do not use Ebonics>clayron

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

This is how I feel about the N-word:

If all black people want to stop being called it, they need to police themselves, first.

I hear the word from black people at least 20 times a day. And that doesn't even count XBL.

nocoolnamejim

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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]white people generally do not use Ebonics>Xx_Hopeless_xX

Lol @ the link. Ebonics is not even a language recognized by linguists.

That's completely silly.Friends, especially guys, speak to each other in a variety of ways. Sometimes they use negative words such as one friend calling his other friend a "dick", "an ass-**** "stupid", etc. However, if someone outside of your friend circle were to refer to you by the same word you'd be offended since that person is not a part of your social group. There is a difference a term of endearment and just being offensive for offensive sake.

clayron

All I'm saying, is since they use it themselves, they shouldn't be surprised when other people use it as well. And shouldn't be upset by it.

[QUOTE="the_new_guy_92"]They should be mad when someone uses the word to INSULT them? I thought that the point of a insult, to hurt the person that it's used against.?airshocker

Since when are you really hurt when someone insults you?

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="clayron"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]white people generally do not use Ebonics>clayron

[QUOTE="clayron"]

That's completely silly.Friends, especially guys, speak to each other in a variety of ways. Sometimes they use negative words such as one friend calling his other friend a "dick", "an ass-**** "stupid", etc. However, if someone outside of your friend circle were to refer to you by the same word you'd be offended since that person is not a part of your social group. There is a difference a term of endearment and just being offensive for offensive sake.

airshocker

All I'm saying, is since they use it themselves, they shouldn't be surprised when other people use it as well. And shouldn't be upset by it.

You would never use the word as freely as you want because you know what will happen. You are one of those 'on the internet people' who would never in reality back up the ludicrous statements you come out with. I say on the internet people, because on the internet is probably where you express these views, safely hidden behind a keyboard anonymously spouting nonsense.

Claps - Bravo.:|

spacedog1973

I never once said I would use the term. Please don't put words in my mouth.

All I said was if they want the word to go away, they need to stop using it themselves.

First off, I hate the lady. When I was a kid, I was forced to listen to her whenever my mom was driving, and she is the most sexist you know what ever, but as much as I hate her, she didn't say anything that is wrong or untrue. Black people do say it whenever they want, though I'm pretty sure that wasn't what the caller was complaining about, which is a bit rude (which isn't anything I wouldn't expect from you know what) what she said is true.

magnax1

This.

[QUOTE="clayron"]

That's completely silly.Friends, especially guys, speak to each other in a variety of ways. Sometimes they use negative words such as one friend calling his other friend a "dick", "an ass-**** "stupid", etc. However, if someone outside of your friend circle were to refer to you by the same word you'd be offended since that person is not a part of your social group. There is a difference a term of endearment and just being offensive for offensive sake.

airshocker

All I'm saying, is since they use it themselves, they shouldn't be surprised when other people use it as well. And shouldn't be upset by it.

Did you not even read what you quoted?clayron

Would I have quoted it if I didn't?

Regardless of how it's used, if they want it to stop they need to stop using it as well.

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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] Not from my experiences..Xx_Hopeless_xX

I'm sure you hacked XBL so you can SEE who's playing on the other side. Accent is not reliable factor when determining ethnicity.

EDIT:Also Ebonics is a bad term because it attempts to put an Umbrella over all the variousdialects(many that also do not sound similar)of English that are spoken by African Americans and Blacks who speak English.

You keep equating using a word in a friendly form to using a word as a insult. You act like connotation doesn't exist.the_new_guy_92

But it is an insult, any way you use it.

I would think you progressive libs would see that. As long as people can still refer to black people by the word, it will always be insulting.

It's funny that the cop is the only one advocating no one using the word. I might be becoming too much of a liberal. :cry: