Dragonforce is a joke.

First of all, PANTERA is REAL metal.

If a song is REALLY hard in a video game, it must mean its REALLY hard to play in real life right?

Dragonforce can't even play their OWN songs live, because its too fast, their used to having a computer program clean up their messy playing and speed it up. PROOF: http://youtube.com/watch?v=bblDQiGAni8

Heres the super intense intro riff from Fire and Flames:

6-6-6-6-6-6-8-6-6-6-6-6-6-8-6-8

If you've played guitar before, that is pretty ****ing easy. And before you come running in here waving your arms telling me to take a music theory **** I'VE BEEN PLAYING FOR 10 YEARS. I know there stuff is anything but innovative.

So what it comes down to is that, like them or not, Herman Li is a horrible guitarist, All of there songs sound the same, they cant even play at the tempo they recorded with LIVE, theres not a single live video of them playing some song CLEANLY, and they are anything but technical.

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With that knowledge, people, do yourself a favor and listen to some REAL technical stuff, you know, like Metallica? Or some REAL innovative stuff like Pantera or Van Halen.

If a song is REALLY hard in a video game, it must mean its REALLY hard to play in real life right?

Dragonforce can't even play their OWN songs live, because its too fast, their used to having a computer program clean up their messy playing and speed it up. PROOF: http://youtube.com/watch?v=bblDQiGAni8

Heres the super intense intro riff from Fire and Flames:

6-6-6-6-6-6-8-6-6-6-6-6-6-8-6-8

If you've played guitar before, that is pretty ****ing easy. And before you come running in here waving your arms telling me to take a music theory **** I'VE BEEN PLAYING FOR 10 YEARS. I know there stuff is anything but innovative.

So what it comes down to is that, like them or not, Herman Li is a horrible guitarist, All of there songs sound the same, they cant even play at the tempo they recorded with LIVE, theres not a single live video of them playing some song CLEANLY, and they are anything but technical.

DlMEBAG

[QUOTE="DlMEBAG"]

If a song is REALLY hard in a video game, it must mean its REALLY hard to play in real life right?

Dragonforce can't even play their OWN songs live, because its too fast, their used to having a computer program clean up their messy playing and speed it up. PROOF: http://youtube.com/watch?v=bblDQiGAni8

Heres the super intense intro riff from Fire and Flames:

6-6-6-6-6-6-8-6-6-6-6-6-6-8-6-8

If you've played guitar before, that is pretty ****ing easy. And before you come running in here waving your arms telling me to take a music theory **** I'VE BEEN PLAYING FOR 10 YEARS. I know there stuff is anything but innovative.

So what it comes down to is that, like them or not, Herman Li is a horrible guitarist, All of there songs sound the same, they cant even play at the tempo they recorded with LIVE, theres not a single live video of them playing some song CLEANLY, and they are anything but technical.

airg6

DragonForce isn't bring back Power metal because Power metal was never dead. DragonForce is just bring Power metal into the mainstream (and the only reason they are doing this is through GH3).

Ugh, care to tell us what string that's played on?VanHelsingBoA64

Yes, and also, I can't see where the notes he's indicated come up in the song.

Oh big whoop. It sounds great and that's all that matters, you do realize that almost all music is digitally mastered to sound better, right?! Hell, there are even entire genres of music that were made completely from digital instruments.Boba_Fett_3710

Well, yeah, because most music is made by talentless idiots.

Oh big whoop. It sounds great and that's all that matters, you do realize that almost all music is digitally mastered to sound better, right?! Hell, there are even entire genres of music that were made completely from digital instruments.Boba_Fett_3710

Except it doesn't sound great.

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]Oh big whoop. It sounds great and that's all that matters, you do realize that almost all music is digitally mastered to sound better, right?! Hell, there are even entire genres of music that were made completely from digital instruments.Funky_Llama

Well, yeah, because most music is made by talentless idiots.

I'm just saying, if they were completely talentless, they wouldn't be as popular as they are.

Am I the only one who really doesn't care how the music is made? I simply don't care.

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]Oh big whoop. It sounds great and that's all that matters, you do realize that almost all music is digitally mastered to sound better, right?! Hell, there are even entire genres of music that were made completely from digital instruments.Boba_Fett_3710

Well, yeah, because most music is made by talentless idiots.

I'm just saying, if they were completely talentless, they wouldn't be as popular as they are.

Am I the only one who really doesn't care how the music is made? I simply don't care.

No. You're with the very strange group of people named the mainstream who appreciates music in the incorrect way.

fact

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]Oh big whoop. It sounds great and that's all that matters, you do realize that almost all music is digitally mastered to sound better, right?! Hell, there are even entire genres of music that were made completely from digital instruments.Boba_Fett_3710

Well, yeah, because most music is made by talentless idiots.

I'm just saying, if they were completely talentless, they wouldn't be as popular as they are.

Am I the only one who really doesn't care how the music is made? I simply don't care.

Pfft. Thanks to the magic of the editing studio, talent is no longer a requisite.

[QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="DlMEBAG"]

If a song is REALLY hard in a video game, it must mean its REALLY hard to play in real life right?

Dragonforce can't even play their OWN songs live, because its too fast, their used to having a computer program clean up their messy playing and speed it up. PROOF: http://youtube.com/watch?v=bblDQiGAni8

Heres the super intense intro riff from Fire and Flames:

6-6-6-6-6-6-8-6-6-6-6-6-6-8-6-8

If you've played guitar before, that is pretty ****ing easy. And before you come running in here waving your arms telling me to take a music theory **** I'VE BEEN PLAYING FOR 10 YEARS. I know there stuff is anything but innovative.

So what it comes down to is that, like them or not, Herman Li is a horrible guitarist, All of there songs sound the same, they cant even play at the tempo they recorded with LIVE, theres not a single live video of them playing some song CLEANLY, and they are anything but technical.

ragek1ll589

DragonForce isn't bring back Power metal because Power metal was never dead. DragonForce is just bring Power metal into the mainstream (and the only reason they are doing this is through GH3).

Am I the only one who really doesn't care how the music is made? I simply don't care.

Boba_Fett_3710

I know some people who think that the PODxt is cheating as far as guitar playing goes. The moment a tool is invented to make life easier, there will inevitably be those who think that it shouldn't be used because it takes more talent not to use it.

Me, I'm closer to the side of not really caring as long as it sounds good. At the very least, I disagree with the idea of purposely and artificially making your life harder just so you can say you did everything yourself.

[QUOTE="ragek1ll589"][QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="DlMEBAG"]

If a song is REALLY hard in a video game, it must mean its REALLY hard to play in real life right?

Dragonforce can't even play their OWN songs live, because its too fast, their used to having a computer program clean up their messy playing and speed it up. PROOF: http://youtube.com/watch?v=bblDQiGAni8

Heres the super intense intro riff from Fire and Flames:

6-6-6-6-6-6-8-6-6-6-6-6-6-8-6-8

If you've played guitar before, that is pretty ****ing easy. And before you come running in here waving your arms telling me to take a music theory **** I'VE BEEN PLAYING FOR 10 YEARS. I know there stuff is anything but innovative.

So what it comes down to is that, like them or not, Herman Li is a horrible guitarist, All of there songs sound the same, they cant even play at the tempo they recorded with LIVE, theres not a single live video of them playing some song CLEANLY, and they are anything but technical.

airg6

DragonForce isn't bring back Power metal because Power metal was never dead. DragonForce is just bring Power metal into the mainstream (and the only reason they are doing this is through GH3).

To me Powermetal died once the original singer of Helloween left. I pretty much hate all other power metal bands.

No.. Power metal died in the late 80's to early 90's.
airg6

It didn't. Blind Guardian, Iced Earth, Symphony X, Gamma Ray and Kamelot have continued to make albums.

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]Oh big whoop. It sounds great and that's all that matters, you do realize that almost all music is digitally mastered to sound better, right?! Hell, there are even entire genres of music that were made completely from digital instruments.Dethshoot

Well, yeah, because most music is made by talentless idiots.

I'm just saying, if they were completely talentless, they wouldn't be as popular as they are.

Am I the only one who really doesn't care how the music is made? I simply don't care.

No. You're with the very strange group of people named the mainstream who appreciates music in the incorrect way.

It is a joke, and they don't take themselves seriously... ever.

That's why I like them.

I'm just saying, if they were completely talentless, they wouldn't be as popular as they are.

Boba_Fett_3710

popularity=/=talent

my favorite example: Britney Spears is more popular than Mozart, does that mean she got more talent? hell no.

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]Oh big whoop. It sounds great and that's all that matters, you do realize that almost all music is digitally mastered to sound better, right?! Hell, there are even entire genres of music that were made completely from digital instruments.Dethshoot

Well, yeah, because most music is made by talentless idiots.

I'm just saying, if they were completely talentless, they wouldn't be as popular as they are.

Am I the only one who really doesn't care how the music is made? I simply don't care.

No. You're with the very strange group of people named the mainstream who appreciates music in the incorrect way.

:lol: "you dont appreciate music the right way"

Oh big whoop. It sounds great and that's all that matters, you do realize that almost all music is digitally mastered to sound better, right?! Hell, there are even entire genres of music that were made completely from digital instruments.Boba_Fett_3710

You couldn't be more wrong. If you can't play live, you're not a talented band. I could play DragonFarce's "music" better than Herman Li can. They're a complete joke.

my favorite example: Britney Spears is more popular than Mozard, does that mean she got more talent? hell no.

Enosh88

Well, certainly not musical talent, but I'd say she had way more talent as far as sex appeal went... :P

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]

I'm just saying, if they were completely talentless, they wouldn't be as popular as they are.

Enosh88

popularity=/=talent

my favorite example: Britney Spears is more popular than Mozart, does that mean she got more talent? hell no.

Wow, that is actually a really good example.

*quickly writes it down for use later*

It is a joke, and they don't take themselves seriously... ever.

That's why I like them.

TenP

What? They're arrogant punks. Herman Li thinks he's one of the greatest guitarists to grace our planet.

Well, certainly not musical talent, but I'd say she had way more talent as far as sex appeal went... :P

GabuEx

you crazy? Mozart was THE man with the ladies back then :D

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]Oh big whoop. It sounds great and that's all that matters, you do realize that almost all music is digitally mastered to sound better, right?! Hell, there are even entire genres of music that were made completely from digital instruments.TM_Darkside

You couldn't be more wrong. If you can't play live, you're not a talented band. I could play DragonFarce's "music" better than Herman Li can. They're a complete joke.

you crazy? Mozart was THE man with the ladies back then :D

Enosh88

Well Mozart definitely was awfully hot.

[QUOTE="Enosh88"]

my favorite example: Britney Spears is more popular than Mozard, does that mean she got more talent? hell no.

GabuEx

Well, certainly not musical talent, but I'd say she had way more talent as far as sex appeal went... :P

(insert humorously ironic argument in Mozart's favour here)

Heh... Mozard... sounds like a wizard.

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]

Am I the only one who really doesn't care how the music is made? I simply don't care.

GabuEx

I know some people who think that the PODxt is cheating as far as guitar playing goes. The moment a tool is invented to make life easier, there will inevitably be those who think that it shouldn't be used because it takes more talent not to use it.

Me, I'm closer to the side of not really caring as long as it sounds good. At the very least, I disagree with the idea of purposely and artificially making your life harder just so you can say you did everything yourself.

I woudn't enjoy music as much if I knew that the person I'm listening to has no talent; a lot of the time, I want to be awed by the skills of the performer.

Heh... Mozard... sounds like a wizard.Funky_Llama

beh how did that d get there -.- fixed now.

I woudn't enjoy music as much if I knew that the person I'm listening to has no talent; a lot of the time, I want to be awed by the skills of the performer.

Funky_Llama

I'm not so much saying that it doesn't matter whether or not someone has talent. All I'm objecting to is the idea that people ought to shun new technology that makes things easier just so they can say they did everything themselves. Unless people have made their own guitars and amps by themselves, and then made their own generator to power the stuff, they're already getting a ton of help from people who did part of the work for them. I don't see the problem, then, with using other things to do other parts for them as well. The way I see it, the less time you have to spend on boilerplate grunt work, the more time you can spend actually being creative. The very foundation of human civilization is making use of things that someone else has already done in order to make it so you don't have to repeat the same work.

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]Oh big whoop. It sounds great and that's all that matters, you do realize that almost all music is digitally mastered to sound better, right?! Hell, there are even entire genres of music that were made completely from digital instruments.TM_Darkside

You couldn't be more wrong. If you can't play live, you're not a talented band. I could play DragonFarce's "music" better than Herman Li can. They're a complete joke.

Ugh, care to tell us what string that's played on?VanHelsingBoA64

WOW, does it really matter?

It is a joke, and they don't take themselves seriously... ever.

That's why I like them.

TenP

Uhhh, no... In numerous interviews Herman RI basically calls himself a god, and thinks hes the most amazing guitarist ever.

[QUOTE="TM_Darkside"]

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]Oh big whoop. It sounds great and that's all that matters, you do realize that almost all music is digitally mastered to sound better, right?! Hell, there are even entire genres of music that were made completely from digital instruments.Luncbox1

You couldn't be more wrong. If you can't play live, you're not a talented band. I could play DragonFarce's "music" better than Herman Li can. They're a complete joke.

Eric Clapton could play his style of music as good as anyone, though. Herman Li can't even play his own style.

Li is not a good guitarist, I'll leave it at that. I'll give him this, he's better than that other guitarist for DragonForce. :lol:

Dragonforce does indeed suck...

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

I woudn't enjoy music as much if I knew that the person I'm listening to has no talent; a lot of the time, I want to be awed by the skills of the performer.

GabuEx

I'm not so much saying that it doesn't matter whether or not someone has talent. All I'm objecting to is the idea that people ought to shun new technology that makes things easier just so they can say they did everything themselves. Unless people have made their own guitars and amps by themselves, and then made their own generator to power the stuff, they're already getting a ton of help from people who did part of the work for them. I don't see the problem, then, with using other things to do other parts for them as well. The way I see it, the less time you have to spend on boilerplate grunt work, the more time you can spend actually being creative. The very foundation of human civilization is making use of things that someone else has already done in order to make it so you don't have to repeat the same work.

Bah. I'd just be happier in the knowledge that I'm listening to the work of a musician, not a sound engineer. Plus, there's the matter of expression - which, when the sound is altered artifically, is lost.

i kind of feel that the video the adio wasn't the same or something. so it sound crappier.... but after watching other videos it seemed the same thing. they seem to play by computer. iam2green

They're playing in a different key. I don't know why.