So who here drinks and smokes on OT? And is there anyone here who doesn't do either like me? :P Its alright if you drink and/or smoke, though I think its vastly unhealthy. :P Its alright if one is trying to break addictions as well. Good luck to anyone here trying to break addictions. Toph_Girl250
Drinking is not unhealthy unless you are consuming mass quantities of corporate swill. Moderate drinkers even live longer than both heavy and light to non drinkers. http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2017200,00.html In the article they say the reasons are unclear however many alcoholic beverages are rich in vitimins. nutrients, etc.
Whenever I get drunk or buzzed I always want a cigarette or weed. I also smoke when stressed out, but try my best not to let the craving get to me most of the time.
I used to smoke 4 to 4 and a half packs a day.No lie,till one day I gotten sick and landed in the hospital for five weeks,which I had no choice but to quit smoking.I rather be a non smoker.Cigarettes were killing me slowly.If you are wondering what sickness I had,it was Strep*A*.A very serious sickness.I almost died,when my life was saved,I almost lost my right leg.Thanks to the great doctors and nurses at the hospital,they saved my life.
[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="rastotm"] The average amount of alcohol consumed among those who drink is far higher than what moderate drinking really is. Moderate drinking is very little drinking.
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So you wouldn't call one to two glasses of Ale every day or two, with more on occasion, moderate drinking? Beer doesn't have much alcohol in it anyway and moderate doesnt mean light. Yes, that is more than moderate drinking, according to the people who do research on the damaging effects of alcohol. And yes, the scientific perspective on moderate drinking would be considered light drinking by most people. Just saying that because the moderate drinking in the health benefits argument tends to be quite lower than people expect.
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Only by the people who drink corporate industrial swill like Bud and Miller. Real beer doesn't come in 15, 18, 20, 24 and 30 packs. It never comes in a 12 pack except for a couple of the national Microbreweries like The Boston Beer Company and Sierra Nevada. Even real liquor drinkers don't slam shots or mix drinks. Its something that is sipped and for $30+, they are not consuming their bottle in one or two nights.
[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] So you wouldn't call one to two glasses of Ale every day or two, with more on occasion, moderate drinking? Beer doesn't have much alcohol in it anyway and moderate doesnt mean light.Murderstyle75
Yes, that is more than moderate drinking, according to the people who do research on the damaging effects of alcohol. And yes, the scientific perspective on moderate drinking would be considered light drinking by most people. Just saying that because the moderate drinking in the health benefits argument tends to be quite lower than people expect.
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Only by the people who drink corporate industrial swill like Bud and Miller. Real beer doesn't come in 15, 18, 20, 24 and 30 packs. It never comes in a 12 pack except for a couple of the national Microbreweries like The Boston Beer Company and Sierra Nevada. Even real liquor drinkers don't slam shots or mix drinks. Its something that is sipped and for $30+, they are not consuming their bottle in one or two nights.
Um, good beer does come in cases of 12 and 24. I can buy cases of craft beers in PA, and in WI.
Do both. Not proud of the latter, but I'm more a chew person anyways. Still, it's something that I should get out of my life sooner rather than later. No shame in drinking though, I love it.
Smoking and drinking is a trend among teens here. Although it's illegal, bars and clubs are filled with smoking and drinking 16 years old. I used to do it too. I quit smoking a few months ago and I drink only on occasions, ranging from one beer to "Oh shit I'm out of money." Smoking and drinking are like national sports for students.
I don't like being hungover, so I only drink occasionally. Unfortunately, all of my pet vices are illegal to one degree or another, or at least difficult to legally obtain. I wish I lived in the 19th or early 20th century, you could buy practically anything OTC back then.
I don't like being hungover, so I only drink occasionally. Unfortunately, all of my pet vices are illegal to one degree or another, or at least difficult to legally obtain. I wish I lived in the 19th or early 20th century, you could buy practically anything OTC back then.Rhazakna
[QUOTE="Toph_Girl250"] Its alright if you drink and/or smoke, though I think its vastly unhealthy. 0Hamburgher
The occasional drink is good for you, though.
* no solid evidence proves this. I hate how everyone spreads this crap
What are you talking about?
The American Heart Association has reported that "More than a dozen prospective studies have demonstrated a consistent, strong, dose-response relation between increasing alcohol consumption and decreasing incidence of CHD (coronary heart disease). The data are similar in men and women in a number of different geographic and ethnic groups. Consumption of one or two drinks per day is associated with a reduction in risk of approximately 30% to 50%".[22]Â
That's not the only thing it helps with either:
Moderate alcohol intake also helps reduce the risk of some other disorders, including type 2 diabetes, gallstones and peripheral artery diseaseperhaps even dementia. SRC
I have some Cuban cigars, but I don't smoke em -- mainly have them for the cool factor. I can like go to prison :P I collect alcohol bottles, but I don't consume any alcohol. I don't do any recessional drugs, though I've been pondering on my first steroid cycle. 500mg Testosterone Ethanate (Twice week), and contemplating on whether to add anavar.
Horrible stuff. Not sure why many people like them.
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Dopamine and shit. Have more sex. uhhhh. Many drugs offer far better and longer highs than sex does. The high you get from sex is pretty intense, but incredibly short, and fvck that noise.
[QUOTE="Rich3232"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="Rich3232"] Dopamine and shit. Have more sex. uhhhh. Many drugs offer far better and longer highs than sex does. The high you get from sex is pretty intense, but incredibly short, and fvck that noise. Noise? I hate the body fluids, but kk.
I stopped smoking 10 years, 10 months and 15 days ago. I have been drinking for a very long time though I don't drink like I used to. If I have more than 3 drinks a month, than I am doing good. I have unopened bottles of liquor at home that have been sitting around for 4 years or so.
I can't legally drink and my mom has taught me well to stay away from cigarettes. She's been smoking longer than I've been alive and she's told me several times that it's very hard to quit. I think I'll stay away from alcohol. It would be good to not get addicted to that. :P
I don't do either, I never did either, and I don't condone doing either. They're just nasty habits that kill you over time.
I won't impeed other people's rights to do it, but I've seen what they do to people who abuse them. Smoking really has no positive effects and the only reason they're still legal is do to their historical significance and the fact that they don't make you trip out, so there was never any federal attempt to ban them, and we all know what happened when drinking was illegal.
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