Dubai Is The New Babylon

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#1 black_chamber99
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^these pics here aren't photoshopped :o









dubai is a ****ing weird, creepy city. makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up..

its a great example of hyperreality

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Dubai is a city from a scifi-based video game made into reality. Oil wealth on display.

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But no one wants to live there I heard.
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True, an astonishing skyline, a true jewel of a City. Like looking into a future City-scape from a video game

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Dubai is a disgrace to every Arab. It was build by European engineers with foreign money and slave labour. Nothing to be proud of, quite a lot to be ashamed of.

Sorry TehFuneral.

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#7 Zaibach
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Dubai is a disgrace to every Arab. It was build by European engineers with foreign money and slave labour. Nothing to be proud of, quite a lot to be ashamed of.

Sorry TehFuneral.

BossPerson

care to elaborate?

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#8 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

Dubai is a disgrace to every Arab. It was build by European engineers with foreign money and slave labour. Nothing to be proud of, quite a lot to be ashamed of.

Sorry TehFuneral.

Zaibach

care to elaborate?

there are alot of "foreign workers" in the Gulf , though usually foreign workers don't get paid nearly as much as a local doing the same job. though from what I know, Dubai itself has no oil, the other countries in the UAE do
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#9 MAZ85
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Dubai is a disgrace to every Arab. It was build by European engineers with foreign money and slave labour. Nothing to be proud of, quite a lot to be ashamed of.

Sorry TehFuneral.

BossPerson
that's why arabs will never flourish , whenever one of them does something good, all the others will do nothing but criticism
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

Dubai is a disgrace to every Arab. It was build by European engineers with foreign money and slave labour. Nothing to be proud of, quite a lot to be ashamed of.

Sorry TehFuneral.

Zaibach

care to elaborate?

Well the slave labour is pretty clear. Most of the labourers are brought from South Asia and paid very little. As for the foreign engineers, watch any documentary on new buildings being built or whatnot and the architect and civil engineers will always be European or American. As for the money, all the buildings are built with money from billionaires and companies headquartered outside of Dubai. It's not "Arab." There's no real local economy. It just looks nice. That's about it.
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

Dubai is a disgrace to every Arab. It was build by European engineers with foreign money and slave labour. Nothing to be proud of, quite a lot to be ashamed of.

Sorry TehFuneral.

MAZ85
that's why arabs will never flourish , whenever one of them does something good, all the others will do nothing but criticism

....no, when they do something that's actually good, I will applaud.
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Dubai is a disgrace to every Arab. It was build by European engineers with foreign money and slave labour. Nothing to be proud of, quite a lot to be ashamed of.

Sorry TehFuneral.

BossPerson
Immigrants taking your jobs?
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Dubai is a disgrace to every Arab. It was build by European engineers with foreign money and slave labour. Nothing to be proud of, quite a lot to be ashamed of.

Sorry TehFuneral.

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So truee~
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

Dubai is a disgrace to every Arab. It was build by European engineers with foreign money and slave labour. Nothing to be proud of, quite a lot to be ashamed of.

Sorry TehFuneral.

LJS9502_basic
Immigrants taking your jobs?

Not really, most citizens are living it up. It;s the immigrants I worry about.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]

Dubai is a disgrace to every Arab. It was build by European engineers with foreign money and slave labour. Nothing to be proud of, quite a lot to be ashamed of.

Sorry TehFuneral.

BossPerson
Immigrants taking your jobs?

Not really, most citizens are living it up. It;s the immigrants I worry about.

correct me if Im wrong, but I think over 70% of the population is "foreignners" , so to speak , mostly east asian and such. I think the question is what happens when they get angry over living and pay conditions.
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The designer architects just went all out with Dubai. It's an amazing city. I'd love to go there someday.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]

Dubai is a disgrace to every Arab. It was build by European engineers with foreign money and slave labour. Nothing to be proud of, quite a lot to be ashamed of.

Sorry TehFuneral.

BossPerson

Immigrants taking your jobs?

Not really, most citizens are living it up. It;s the immigrants I worry about.

I hear Emiratis (sp) are goven first dibs on everyhtig and no one that is biologically an Emirati can ever become a full fledged citizen.

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Dubai is a disgrace to every Arab. It was build by European engineers with foreign money and slave labour. Nothing to be proud of, quite a lot to be ashamed of.

Sorry TehFuneral.

BossPerson
For once, something we agree on. BUT, try to get the full picture, THIS is miles better than the other option, which is just coughing up more money in their swiss accounts. This wasn't built by average Emiratis after all, you know... I suppose in the end, it all comes down if the general majority of Emiratis are content with it. It's none of our business. And personally, I am happy enough if Emiratis are truly happy. They are after all, our bros in blood, for "all intents and purposes". ;)
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good for them.. they build ridiculous s--- just to build ridiculous s----. wish more places did that.
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#20 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

Dubai is a disgrace to every Arab. It was build by European engineers with foreign money and slave labour. Nothing to be proud of, quite a lot to be ashamed of.

Sorry TehFuneral.

Victorious_Fize
For once, something we agree on. BUT, try to get the full picture, THIS is miles better than the other option, which is just coughing up more money in their swiss accounts. This wasn't built by average Emiratis after all, you know... I suppose in the end, it all comes down if the general majority of Emiratis are content with it. It's none of our business. And personally, I am happy enough if Emiratis are truly happy. They are after all, our bros in blood, for "all intents and purposes". ;)

You guys seem intolerant of other ethnicity. Which is a shame.:(
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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]

Dubai is a disgrace to every Arab. It was build by European engineers with foreign money and slave labour. Nothing to be proud of, quite a lot to be ashamed of.

Sorry TehFuneral.

LJS9502_basic
For once, something we agree on. BUT, try to get the full picture, THIS is miles better than the other option, which is just coughing up more money in their swiss accounts. This wasn't built by average Emiratis after all, you know... I suppose in the end, it all comes down if the general majority of Emiratis are content with it. It's none of our business. And personally, I am happy enough if Emiratis are truly happy. They are after all, our bros in blood, for "all intents and purposes". ;)

You guys seem intolerant of other ethnicity. Which is a shame.:(

Eh? I don't think Arabs are racist at all, if there's any level of discremantion that can be observed, it'd be in GCC countries. But that's more on nationality than actual race/ethnicity. South Asians gets the worst of it (in KSA, it's especially true for Bengali) because they hold organized crime over here (drugs, prostitution, etc), nobody likes that. Besides, what's with people butting in (no offense to you, this is your first time, but I got it like 7-10 times already) when I'm talking to another Arab about local politics?
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#22 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] For once, something we agree on. BUT, try to get the full picture, THIS is miles better than the other option, which is just coughing up more money in their swiss accounts. This wasn't built by average Emiratis after all, you know... I suppose in the end, it all comes down if the general majority of Emiratis are content with it. It's none of our business. And personally, I am happy enough if Emiratis are truly happy. They are after all, our bros in blood, for "all intents and purposes". ;)

You guys seem intolerant of other ethnicity. Which is a shame.:(

Eh? I don't think Arabs are racist at all, if there's any level of discremantion that can be observed, it'd be in GCC countries. But that's more on nationality than actual race/ethnicity. South Asians gets the worst of it (in KSA, it's especially true for Bengali) because they hold organized crime over here (drugs, prostitution, etc), nobody likes that. Besides, what's with people butting in (no offense to you, this is your first time, but I got it like 7-10 times already) when I'm talking to another Arab about local politics?

I wasn't talking about Arabs in general but the two of you. As for what you call butting in.....PMs are great for private conversations.
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Immigrants taking your jobs?

Not really, most citizens are living it up. It;s the immigrants I worry about.

correct me if Im wrong, but I think over 70% of the population is "foreignners" , so to speak , mostly east asian and such. I think the question is what happens when they get angry over living and pay conditions.

Then they'll get deported and get a new batch of workers. I guess for most people, some work is better than no work.
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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You guys seem intolerant of other ethnicity. Which is a shame.:(LJS9502_basic
Eh? I don't think Arabs are racist at all, if there's any level of discremantion that can be observed, it'd be in GCC countries. But that's more on nationality than actual race/ethnicity. South Asians gets the worst of it (in KSA, it's especially true for Bengali) because they hold organized crime over here (drugs, prostitution, etc), nobody likes that. Besides, what's with people butting in (no offense to you, this is your first time, but I got it like 7-10 times already) when I'm talking to another Arab about local politics?

I wasn't talking about Arabs in general but the two of you. As for what you call butting in.....PMs are great for private conversations.

....I'm intolerant of other ethnicities?
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#25 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]Not really, most citizens are living it up. It;s the immigrants I worry about. BossPerson
correct me if Im wrong, but I think over 70% of the population is "foreignners" , so to speak , mostly east asian and such. I think the question is what happens when they get angry over living and pay conditions.

Then they'll get deported and get a new batch of workers. I guess for most people, some work is better than no work.

well , I guess in some ways, being a brick layer in Dubai is better than being a brick layer in Indonesia. hell , if I remember correctly, I think I was told once that foreign workers in Israel who make 500$ at most (they used to be Arabs, but now its mostly east asians) for doing hard labour jobs, is the same salary a bank manager makes in Thailand or the Philipines. I suppose its kind of the same.
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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You guys seem intolerant of other ethnicity. Which is a shame.:(LJS9502_basic
Eh? I don't think Arabs are racist at all, if there's any level of discremantion that can be observed, it'd be in GCC countries. But that's more on nationality than actual race/ethnicity. South Asians gets the worst of it (in KSA, it's especially true for Bengali) because they hold organized crime over here (drugs, prostitution, etc), nobody likes that. Besides, what's with people butting in (no offense to you, this is your first time, but I got it like 7-10 times already) when I'm talking to another Arab about local politics?

I wasn't talking about Arabs in general but the two of you. As for what you call butting in.....PMs are great for private conversations.

Ehhh? Now I'm more confused LJ. I am not racist. o.O I may have disagreements with people, but that's never a reason to hate them or anybody. It's just what it is and I really don't give a damn to think otherwise. You're right about PMs, but this topic opened and discuss it, and there's nothing to be really secretive about, so why not here?
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It looks tastless, soulless and pompous, and I would never want to go there.

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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]Eh? I don't think Arabs are racist at all, if there's any level of discremantion that can be observed, it'd be in GCC countries. But that's more on nationality than actual race/ethnicity. South Asians gets the worst of it (in KSA, it's especially true for Bengali) because they hold organized crime over here (drugs, prostitution, etc), nobody likes that. Besides, what's with people butting in (no offense to you, this is your first time, but I got it like 7-10 times already) when I'm talking to another Arab about local politics?

I wasn't talking about Arabs in general but the two of you. As for what you call butting in.....PMs are great for private conversations.

....I'm intolerant of other ethnicities?

Why else would you complain about the labor force in Dubai?
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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]Eh? I don't think Arabs are racist at all, if there's any level of discremantion that can be observed, it'd be in GCC countries. But that's more on nationality than actual race/ethnicity. South Asians gets the worst of it (in KSA, it's especially true for Bengali) because they hold organized crime over here (drugs, prostitution, etc), nobody likes that. Besides, what's with people butting in (no offense to you, this is your first time, but I got it like 7-10 times already) when I'm talking to another Arab about local politics?

I wasn't talking about Arabs in general but the two of you. As for what you call butting in.....PMs are great for private conversations.

Ehhh? Now I'm more confused LJ. I am not racist. o.O I may have disagreements with people, but that's never a reason to hate them or anybody. It's just what it is and I really don't give a damn to think otherwise. You're right about PMs, but this topic opened and discuss it, and there's nothing to be really secretive about, so why not here?

I just found the complaints about who built Dubai to be racist for lack of a better word. And you agreed with those statements. Anyway.....I'm not saying you have to talk in PMs but you can't expect that other people might not comment....no? Anyway...I'm out. Good day.....
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It's okay. Cairo still looks way nicer to me. Historical architecture > soulless rich people sh1t

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I wasn't talking about Arabs in general but the two of you. As for what you call butting in.....PMs are great for private conversations.

....I'm intolerant of other ethnicities?

Why else would you complain about the labor force in Dubai?

i think he is wishing that the accouplishements made in dubai were 100% emiratis or arabs , nothing wrong with that
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I wasn't talking about Arabs in general but the two of you. As for what you call butting in.....PMs are great for private conversations.

Ehhh? Now I'm more confused LJ. I am not racist. o.O I may have disagreements with people, but that's never a reason to hate them or anybody. It's just what it is and I really don't give a damn to think otherwise. You're right about PMs, but this topic opened and discuss it, and there's nothing to be really secretive about, so why not here?

I just found the complaints about who built Dubai to be racist for lack of a better word. And you agreed with those statements. Anyway.....I'm not saying you have to talk in PMs but you can't expect that other people might not comment....no? Anyway...I'm out. Good day.....

LOL, LJ, he was complaining about the workforce needing to get more care, not the other way around. xD But yeah, I expect, but do people really know anything about local Arab politics to comment? Most of the replies I receive leads me to think they don't. For all they care, they lump the entire region in the crazy basket and anybody that does not westernize himself out of it is part of the evil boogy muslim terrorist man. :P
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I live in Dubai , It's nothing specialy really . Maybe i got used to the fancy buildings and the exotic cars :P

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I wasn't talking about Arabs in general but the two of you. As for what you call butting in.....PMs are great for private conversations.

....I'm intolerant of other ethnicities?

Why else would you complain about the labor force in Dubai?

lol, you have serious comprehension problems. I am complaining about slave labour because I don't want people to be paid 3 dollars an hour, not because I dont want Sri Lankans to have work.
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been to dubai a few times and found it a really chill place which i'd love to live in someday ,since i'm more of a modern city guy and i don't really find ancient architectures as appealing as some folks do.also lol at calling dubai soulless for the city does have it's own unique character you wouldn't find anywhere else.you might not find that character interesting,that would be understandable,but it's definitely there,that said it's a really stupid thing to say it's not an achievement for arabs just because ome of the owners or architects aren't dubai inhabitants.plus dubai has this policy which prevents foreigners from actually owning most of properties in dubai,there are only 99 years leases.

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I heard the place was sinking... anyway, quite the marvel you got there.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]Eh? I don't think Arabs are racist at all, if there's any level of discremantion that can be observed, it'd be in GCC countries. But that's more on nationality than actual race/ethnicity. South Asians gets the worst of it (in KSA, it's especially true for Bengali) because they hold organized crime over here (drugs, prostitution, etc), nobody likes that. Besides, what's with people butting in (no offense to you, this is your first time, but I got it like 7-10 times already) when I'm talking to another Arab about local politics?Victorious_Fize
I wasn't talking about Arabs in general but the two of you. As for what you call butting in.....PMs are great for private conversations.

Ehhh? Now I'm more confused LJ. I am not racist. o.O I may have disagreements with people, but that's never a reason to hate them or anybody. It's just what it is and I really don't give a damn to think otherwise. You're right about PMs, but this topic opened and discuss it, and there's nothing to be really secretive about, so why not here?

So why are you whining about someone joining your PUBLIC conversation?

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They are smart to take their oil wealth and invest it into building a middle eastern version of Luxembourg or Singapore. The oil wealth will only last for so long.

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They are smart to take their oil wealth and invest it into building a middle eastern version of Luxembourg. The oil wealth will only last for so long. KC_Hokie
I actually think Dubai doesn't have that much oil , its mostly the other UAE countries that do. although I suppose they support each other alot.
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]They are smart to take their oil wealth and invest it into building a middle eastern version of Luxembourg. The oil wealth will only last for so long. Darkman2007
I actually think Dubai doesn't have that much oil , its mostly the other UAE countries that do. although I suppose they support each other alot.

Yea they are part of the UAE but it was an oil discover in the early 70s in Dubai that caused the huge increase in population and wealth.
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]They are smart to take their oil wealth and invest it into building a middle eastern version of Luxembourg. The oil wealth will only last for so long. Darkman2007
I actually think Dubai doesn't have that much oil , its mostly the other UAE countries that do. although I suppose they support each other alot.

From wikipedia: Oil reserves in the United Arab Emirates, according to its government, are about 98 billion barrels (15.6×109 m3), almost as big as Kuwait's claimed reserves. Of the emirates, Abu Dhabi has most of the oil with 92 billion barrels (14.6×109 m3) while Dubai has 4 billion barrels (640×106 m3) and Sharjah has 1.5 billion barrels (240×106 m3). So, the oil isn't really serious business there. Or at least it's nowhere near sustainable.
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]They are smart to take their oil wealth and invest it into building a middle eastern version of Luxembourg. The oil wealth will only last for so long. BossPerson
I actually think Dubai doesn't have that much oil , its mostly the other UAE countries that do. although I suppose they support each other alot.

From wikipedia: Oil reserves in the United Arab Emirates, according to its government, are about 98 billion barrels (15.6×109 m3), almost as big as Kuwait's claimed reserves. Of the emirates, Abu Dhabi has most of the oil with 92 billion barrels (14.6×109 m3) while Dubai has 4 billion barrels (640×106 m3) and Sharjah has 1.5 billion barrels (240×106 m3). So, the oil isn't really serious business there. Or at least it's nowhere near sustainable.

Yea it's running out in Dubai but their oil boom is what prompted the growth and wealth of Dubai. And they were smart to invest it similar to Luxembourg and Singapore.
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#43 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]They are smart to take their oil wealth and invest it into building a middle eastern version of Luxembourg. The oil wealth will only last for so long. BossPerson
I actually think Dubai doesn't have that much oil , its mostly the other UAE countries that do. although I suppose they support each other alot.

From wikipedia: Oil reserves in the United Arab Emirates, according to its government, are about 98 billion barrels (15.6×109 m3), almost as big as Kuwait's claimed reserves. Of the emirates, Abu Dhabi has most of the oil with 92 billion barrels (14.6×109 m3) while Dubai has 4 billion barrels (640×106 m3) and Sharjah has 1.5 billion barrels (240×106 m3). So, the oil isn't really serious business there. Or at least it's nowhere near sustainable.

which shows that alot of it was smart business and turning the country into a financial centre. also , remember that oil doesn't necessarily bring wealth or stability, Iraq and Libya have oil and gas, and they aren't remotely rich or stable.
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The buildings really are quite marvellous. I'd like to visit one day. Although pretty much every news article I see about Dubai seems to be all doom-and-gloom.
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some of the best building designs I've seen in a city

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Buildings look cool, but that is about it.

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it certainly looks beautiful - at least i think so.

I can appreciate the old architecture as well as the new modern archietecture.

i haven't gone to Dubai yet, would like to one day. my dad and brothers went and they seemed to rather like it, but they were just there for a week so, i dunno what it's like after you've been there for a long enough time.

from what i know the Emirati's are horribly outnumbered even by the neighboring Arabs living and working there as well. Nevermind the huge labor force they have there, and the foreigners from around world living and working in their sky rises.

In one sense alone is it something to be proud about, however the use of labor force (which is a huge problem in all of the Gulf) it still shows what an Arab country can build in a very short amount of time -relatively speaking. sadly a lot of it has to be outsourced to accomplish it.

All of the Gulf should strive to limit their stupidly over-reliance on cheap foreign labor.

Rather like how Saudi has tried approaching the problem so far, trying to build quality education universities, like the Princess Noor Universities, or KAUST (which again has mostly foreign professors teaching there). have an educated base to build the country organically. The tricky part is how do you get to employ the uneducated to do the manual labor task, a job that is almost exclusively done by the huge foreign labor force.

Dubai looks fantastic, but what i see is beautiful gleaming towers and lots of toys. in other words, it's beautiful skin, but it has no bones or muscle to support it.

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Well, its my hometown; born and raised.

You can call it whatever you want, but I really love this place and I enjoy lots of benefits provided to me here. It is not perfect, there are a lot of problems. and no, we are not as big or wealthy as you imagine us to be, but we do enjoy a community bond between each other... but forget Dubai, Its a great feeling knowing that an entire nation is ready to move its resources to help a mere citizen out; I've had many arabs and non arabs confess that they are jealous of this. Also, we interact with many westerns and easterns, there is a reason that my fathers and forefathers do know how to speak different languages. I'm sure I never met anyone who was forced to come and work here, and I've met a lot of people and from various ethnicities.. better yet, the people I know have loyalty to this place as much as we natives do, some who even lived here before I was even born.

Also, we sure as hell don't admit that we've acomplished any of this on our own. Heck, most of us are just decendants of bedouins, fishermen, and merchants.

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#49 Darkman2007
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Well, its my hometown; born and raised.

You can call it whatever you want, but I really love this place and I enjoy lots of benefits provided to me here. It is not perfect, there are a lot of problems. and no, we are not as big or wealthy as you imagine us to be, but we do enjoy a community bond between each other... but forget Dubai, Its a great feeling knowing that an entire nation is ready to move its resources to help a mere citizen out; I've had many arabs and non arabs confess that they are jealous of this. Also, we interact with many westerns and easterns, there is a reason that my fathers and forefathers do know how to speak different languages. I'm sure I never met anyone who was forced to come and work here, and I've met a lot of people and from various ethnicities.. better yet, the people I know have loyalty to this place as much as we natives do, some who even lived here before I was even born.

Also, we sure as hell don't admit that we've acomplished any of this on our own. Heck, most of us are just decendants of bedouins, fishermen, and merchants.

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nice place, I would have visited if I wouldnt have gotten arrested at the airport :P would have liked to visit Egypt too , but I value the connection between my head and my neck....
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#50 TehFuneral
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[QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

Well, its my hometown; born and raised.

You can call it whatever you want, but I really love this place and I enjoy lots of benefits provided to me here. It is not perfect, there are a lot of problems. and no, we are not as big or wealthy as you imagine us to be, but we do enjoy a community bond between each other... but forget Dubai, Its a great feeling knowing that an entire nation is ready to move its resources to help a mere citizen out; I've had many arabs and non arabs confess that they are jealous of this. Also, we interact with many westerns and easterns, there is a reason that my fathers and forefathers do know how to speak different languages. I'm sure I never met anyone who was forced to come and work here, and I've met a lot of people and from various ethnicities.. better yet, the people I know have loyalty to this place as much as we natives do, some who even lived here before I was even born.

Also, we sure as hell don't admit that we've acomplished any of this on our own. Heck, most of us are just decendants of bedouins, fishermen, and merchants.

Darkman2007

nice place, I would have visited if I wouldnt have gotten arrested at the airport :P would have liked to visit Egypt too , but I value the connection between my head and my neck....

About that.. I never really understood what happened after the contradicted mossad assasination, but I guess Israeli passports are not acknowledged as a traveling document.

But we do have lots of European Jews here.